Subj : Re: Commodore 64 Ultimate Starlight To : All From : Kalevi Kolttonen Date : Wed Mar 11 2026 10:00 am Daniel wrote: > Many of us wet our feet on basic as children. In fact, many people > progressed into the world of software development from that > introduction. One could argue that it helped lead into the industry > we have today. My first programming language was indeed C64 BASIC in the latter half of 1984. We thought it was good because we did not know anything better. > You told him not to introduce the kids to that same joy he > experienced with an end-of-world urgency. As if they'll be irreparably > harmed by it. Sheesh. Yeah, BASIC actually harms your brain and teaches you to write shitty spaghetti code filled with GOTOs. When you progress to proper programming language, you have to unlearn the bad habits you develop with a sad mess like C64 BASIC. Which sane programming languages use *line numbers* for fuck's sake? None! > He's doing it to bond with the kids. Maybe he will help them code their > own games and get that satisfaction like he did. For years magazines > supplied source code for games. I used to stay in the computer lab after > school to code them myself, since we didn't have a computer at my > home. We had atari game system. All that can be done way better by using Python 3 or anything other than C64 BASIC which is quite possibly the worst programming language ever invented. From a practical point of view, just using the dreaded screen editor to write code is hell on earth. Linux and FreeBSD are paradise for programmers, beginners or advanced. Welcome to 2026. br, KK --- PyGate Linux v1.5.12 * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10) .