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       Replacing Pull Requests with Delta
        
       https://delta.dev/
        
       Author : vquemener
       Score  : 140 points
       Date   : 2026-09-16 14:05 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | Palmik wrote:
       | Look interesting, though admittedly I am mostly interested in the
       | open-source release of DeltaDB.
        
       | Cthulhu_ wrote:
       | I never liked it myself, but this looks like an extension of
       | Zed's own systems of collaborative coding (remotely), which in
       | turn is built on top of the ideas of Extreme Programming, and /
       | or intensive pair or mob programming.
       | 
       | It's interesting enough and I'd like to try it sometime, but
       | probably only for hackathons - my main line of work is more
       | planning than actual coding.
        
         | nzoschke wrote:
         | Yes I like where Zed is going with this.
         | 
         | I find pair programming very productive with agentic coding.
         | 
         | Two people (plus one or more agents) have the full context of
         | the plan, execution, written code, automated and manual
         | testing. Both can help drive to the point where it feels safe
         | to sign off on the change right then and there and merge it.
         | 
         | Compare that to traditional PR / code review, where so much of
         | that context is lost. At best the coder needs to spend a lot
         | more time rewriting up a great PR description to bring the
         | reviewer up to speed. At worst the reviewer needs to read lots
         | of AI slop PRs, docs, transcripts, and code to try to make
         | sense of things.
         | 
         | Doing it together then merging the thread and moving on can be
         | efficient.
        
       | sajithdilshan wrote:
       | Certainly looks interesting and a new way of working which would
       | take some time to get adjusted.
        
       | ghusto wrote:
       | Would have loved to have tried this, but it still bizarrely lacks
       | Apple Intel support.
        
         | steveklabnik wrote:
         | Intel Macs haven't been sold for over three years now. I don't
         | think that's bizzare.
        
           | ghusto wrote:
           | They haven't been sold for three years so they suddenly don't
           | exist? Really?
        
             | steveklabnik wrote:
             | I didn't say they didn't exist. I said it isn't bizarre
             | that a startup does not prioritize support for
             | unpurchasable hardware that is no longer supported by its
             | manufacturer.
        
           | abeyer wrote:
           | I don't think any of my interactive use machines
           | (server/remote are another story) are less than 3 years old.
        
             | steveklabnik wrote:
             | Some of mine are and some of mine aren't, but the ones that
             | are are on platforms that are still made and supported,
             | unlike Intel Macs.
        
       | dguest wrote:
       | It sounds like it's not conceptually different from a MR, the
       | main difference is preserving the rationale for all the changes
       | by bolting the "threads" (a log of agent interactions) on top. I
       | can see how the discussion logs are quite useful if you have an
       | agent that is there to parse them.
        
       | rtpg wrote:
       | This stuff reminds me of people who are full into XP and pair
       | programming, where you end up agreeing to pull in more or less
       | any work done by two people together. Not the worst model in the
       | world.
       | 
       | I am disappointed by the "agent chat"-centric design for the
       | future. There is important value in highlighting what's
       | important, and _jettisoning the unimportant_. Written artifacts
       | are good when they 're nice and cut down. And it's not really
       | about the sequence of events (well, most of the time)
       | 
       | Instead of "agent chat", I feel like a written page (that could
       | be interacted with through agents) is a much more interesting way
       | of working through a problem. Capture the final idea, and
       | minimize the fluff around it.
       | 
       | And if nobody is going to read it anyways, why have the chat in
       | the first place?
       | 
       | And of course the glib comment that I can't help but make:
       | 
       | > Teammates can ask the same agent why you chose a Mutex instead
       | of an RwLock.
       | 
       | you know in this hypothetical neither human involved has much of
       | any idea what is going on. Skill atrophy is real, folks! Be
       | careful.
        
       | DR0D4 wrote:
       | I have not gone so far as to allow agents to operate my version
       | control, so excuse my ignorance, but by abandoning PRs for thread
       | deltas, are we also abandoning human-written code entirely? Will
       | every micro-change, fix, or refactor have to be prompted to be
       | tracked in this paradigm?
        
         | blfr wrote:
         | Oh, yeah. I gave Claude sudo on my AI dev machine: it commits,
         | pushes, checks the results of pre-push tests, sudos to another
         | user, deploys, checks the results of smoke tests, and then
         | checks the end result.
         | 
         | It also has MCP access to Cloudflare. Front-end deploys on
         | every push to main but Claude can adjust the pipeline, add
         | environmental variables, etc.
        
           | tacomagick wrote:
           | That sounds like a problem waiting to happen.
        
             | blfr wrote:
             | All IT infrastructure is a problem waiting to happen. I
             | have backups and a rollback mechanism.
        
               | pferde wrote:
               | That's like not putting protective guardrail on a
               | staircase, and instead having first aid kits and
               | emergency phone number on hand. In other words, dumb and
               | irresponsible. Possibly illegal, depending on the case.
        
           | pebble wrote:
           | This almost reads like parody.
        
             | cruffle_duffle wrote:
             | Why? It sounds like a pretty typical workflow to me.
             | 
             | It just depends on what you are building. Some things are
             | more more forgiving to muck-ups than others and if the LLM
             | screws the pooch, oh well! Roll forward.
        
           | yencabulator wrote:
           | I hope you never handle other people's data.
        
       | samayashar wrote:
       | Looks interesting for a small team that's working on a single
       | project. I am curious to understand how this would work out for a
       | large org that has multiple projects under the belt.
       | 
       | PRs may look old fashioned, but they're a very clear way of
       | tracking an issue that may need multiple reviews. With Delta,
       | things can get confusing after more than two reviews + RBAC is
       | another challenge if the agent has similar context for every
       | category.
        
       | skybrian wrote:
       | For more see:
       | 
       | https://delta.dev/docs/concepts/core-concepts
       | 
       | It reminds me a bit of jujutsu in that there is a database with
       | your code changes that is automatically kept in sync with your
       | working directory. The agent edits the database copy directly. I
       | guess the sync must be two-way?
        
       | LoganDark wrote:
       | Apparently downloading this requires "signing in and accepting
       | beta terms".
        
       | meffmadd wrote:
       | Seems interesting! I have found my main bottleneck right now is
       | having too primitive tools for code review. A tighter loop around
       | that might be a solution.
        
         | mechazawa wrote:
         | Primitive in what way? There are already tools that categorize
         | changes so that they are easier to follow during a review.
        
           | itsdesmond wrote:
           | Like...?
        
       | kittikitti wrote:
       | This would force you to utilize agentic AI just to make small
       | code changes.
        
         | _flux wrote:
         | Hmm, looks to me you can also just go and modify the code in
         | the editor?
        
           | kittikitti wrote:
           | I'll admit that "force" was the wrong word here but Delta is
           | still a what a vibe coder who doesn't understand version
           | control would utilize.
        
         | rtfeldman wrote:
         | At 3:40 in the video you can see direct code editing in Delta
         | with no AI involvement:
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/HWB48DFk4Sg?si=qTI7jgSiEwajcTab&t=220
        
       | zndbzbz wrote:
       | This seems like a cool augment to current PR processes but
       | fundamentally I don't see anyway around still reading the code?
       | Review should optimize for that. Agents make it very easy to
       | create human digestible logical chunks of work that are easily
       | understood and testable. Your job as a dev is to make it easy for
       | your teammates (and your future self) to understand what your
       | change is doing - cause we all know Claude will use 1000 words
       | when 10 will do.
       | 
       | Other end of this is all the high performing teams I've worked on
       | don't really need PR review. Work is discussed prior to it
       | happening so by the time PR review comes up it's a rubber stamp.
       | Agents changed none of that - again, unless you're not reading
       | the code. PR review is mostly for new devs to get brought up to
       | speed. Trust lets you move really fast.
       | 
       | > but the decisions behind the code still need review. Smaller
       | diffs don't supply that context
       | 
       | Maybe this is the bit that just seems wrong? Yes they do. You
       | write out what the small change is working towards as part of
       | optimizing your PR for your reviewers time. Might be just text, a
       | link to a doc, link to a prototype etc.
        
         | cutthegrass2 wrote:
         | > cause we all know Claude will use 1000 words when 10 will do
         | 
         | Further, the agents are incentivised (if that's the appropriate
         | term here) to do this, since more tokens equals more cost.
        
           | anamexis wrote:
           | Tokens used for user-facing prose are a rounding error for
           | coding agents. I don't think there's a conspiracy there.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments
         | you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site
         | guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
         | 
         | You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a
         | community, users need some identity for other users to relate
         | to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no
         | community, and that would be a different kind of forum.
         | https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
        
       | kettlez wrote:
       | I've been using the beta of Delta for a couple weeks and using it
       | for review is a huge improvement over reviewing directly on the
       | PR. Being able to jump into a team mates thread and see the
       | context of how something got created and be able to ask questions
       | about it very nice. There's some rough edges in the product, but
       | the direction they are going is pretty interesting.
        
         | refactor_master wrote:
         | But what if your PR was created as half chat, then an agent,
         | then some more chat planning, possibly in a new chat to clear
         | the context? I think my teammates would find my inner monologue
         | rather confusing at times.
         | 
         | The sequence of commits I present a purely optimized for
         | reviewing, and not an actual record of what happened. I'm not
         | going to read another person's 100 turn slop factory, because
         | they couldn't express their change in one paragraph.
        
           | ncphillips wrote:
           | Yeah, my solution to this problem has been to get Claude to
           | use jj to create a clean commit history. Each commit serves a
           | single purpose and includes what drove the decisions we made.
           | You lose the noise and still have the meaning.
           | 
           | So I'm a little unclear as to benefit of this. It
           | sounds...wasteful?
        
             | anamexis wrote:
             | What does jj specifically enable for that workflow?
        
               | ncphillips wrote:
               | It drastically simplifies the process.
               | 
               | Redescribe, reorder, split, squash, abandon commits is
               | trivial.
               | 
               | Auto-rebasing is fantastic, fix a conflict once and not
               | have to keep correcting.
               | 
               | You can rebase individual commits, ranges of commits,
               | etc. You can also rebase trees I.e. forking branches with
               | a common ancestor, with a single command.
               | 
               | The operation log also makes it feel super safe. You can
               | always undo a jj operation or restore to a past state
        
         | wldcordeiro wrote:
         | I've been curious about using it but the fact it needs to
         | upload everything makes it something I can't do with work and
         | then don't see the immediate value of on projects by myself.
        
       | NoDodgeQuestion wrote:
       | I must say again, can not manual refresh the file tree in zed
       | https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/54150
       | 
       | Zed is fast and good at many things but need to focus on basic
       | fix or agentic edits broken
        
       | dzonga wrote:
       | for a lot of teams that do pair programming etc and pairing with
       | agents - this makes sense.
       | 
       | hell dare I say better than the pull-request model - since you
       | don't have to wait on people to review the code and deal with the
       | nonsense of merge-trains.
        
       | esafak wrote:
       | Has anyone compared this with Cursor's Origin?
        
         | steveklabnik wrote:
         | Origin is a platform, this is about storing context in your
         | repository directly.
        
       | alansaber wrote:
       | We did something similar for document version control. The
       | fundamental premise is the same: give collaborators the full
       | context involved in (agentic or otherwise) decision making,
       | rather than inferring it from document snapshots.
       | https://lexifina.com/blog/granular-ai-diffs-and-source-traci...
        
         | pbronez wrote:
         | Lexfina looks very cool. I need self-hosting to adopt at my
         | business.
        
       | computerfriend wrote:
       | I'd use some "DeltaDB"-like version control tool if it was
       | lightweight and unopinionated about how it integrated into my
       | workflow, since I think revisiting how some change came about at
       | a more granular level could be enlightening. But I'm not
       | interested in this agentic chat multiplayer stuff at all.
        
       | pipes wrote:
       | My first thought is, does this mean that along with the burnout
       | I'm feeling with talking to my own agents I now need to try and
       | consume and understand my teammates conversations with agents?
       | Why is this better than a good pr description that distills
       | completed work and explains why it was required ?
        
         | kittikitti wrote:
         | Software Engineers avoid coding more than any other type of
         | people I have ever met. It's clearly not better but much easier
         | for the Engineers who just want the results without knowing
         | anything about the solution.
        
           | subarctic wrote:
           | At least traditionally, software engineers avoided everything
           | _except_ coding for a long time, but now i guess that 's
           | changed
        
         | lnenad wrote:
         | Yes, but compared to seeing 3k lines of code in a PR with no
         | history with vibes in the description, what is better? This
         | definitely "feels" like something worth exploring.
        
           | AlfeG wrote:
           | And end up with 3k lines of code + conversation history?
        
           | pipes wrote:
           | Why is "feels" in quotes?
           | 
           | Anyway, I'm probably being over cynical and yes it is worth
           | exploring alternatives to the current system.
           | 
           | However I already feel overwhelmed dealing with agent chats.
           | I can't currently see how this deals with the pr problem: If
           | I am supposed to delegate to agents why do my conversations
           | need reviewed by my peers. This feels like classic bad
           | management practices of not trusting the staff below you to
           | get on with it, instead turn up in every meeting.
        
           | SoftTalker wrote:
           | We never accepted 3k lines of code in a PR from a human, why
           | do we from LLMs?
           | 
           | And if we're going to, why are LLMs not doing the PR review?
           | 
           | And if we don't trust them, then isn't that a rather large
           | obstacle to the idea that LLMs are going to replace humans in
           | software engineering?
        
             | waffletower wrote:
             | You can defer review entirely to an LLM, only to human
             | reviewers, or both. We are experimenting with both and have
             | configured LLM skills for pull request reviews. On large
             | projects we also configure LLMs to produce commit
             | segregated diffs within a single pull request, to aid human
             | review. This process is using the github pull request
             | workflow that Zed is attempting to replace.
        
         | dlopes7 wrote:
         | It is for when management thinks PRs are "slowing us down" and
         | we need to use Delta
        
       | okokwhatever wrote:
       | Obviously I don't get it because, for me, it's like PRs with some
       | agentic generated description and a way to involve in a chat
       | another guys.
        
       | the__alchemist wrote:
       | I've lost faith in their editor and GPUI - you were the one, Zed!
       | They are full-steam AI on things like this. I expected this
       | article to be about a general alternative to git, but it is about
       | LLM-focused coding in a way that doesn't make sense to me, as it
       | slices a line between human-written and LLM-written code which
       | does not exist in a meaningful way.
       | 
       | Their primary product, the Zed editor, is unusable for me and
       | others due to it mismanaging file syncs on disk - when external
       | edits happen, the editor retains stale state _unless you close
       | and re-open the specific file_ (Not even an editor reopen syncs
       | it). There is a significant risk of your changes being silently
       | overwritten or conflicted. Amusingly, the risk of this is
       | increased when a file is changed asynchronously, which for me,
       | most happens due to a pull or LLM edits!
       | 
       | It begs questions like: "If coding has changed so that we should
       | use an LLM-focused source control tool, why can't the LLM fix a
       | severe bug in our software that has a closed-form solution?"
        
         | prodigycorp wrote:
         | Do you have a link to an issue, so I can know if I should be
         | worried about this?
        
           | the__alchemist wrote:
           | Here: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/38109
        
             | prodigycorp wrote:
             | Ah, yeah, I get this issue too but I've been so conditioned
             | to close and reopen files that I've stopped thinking it was
             | an issue. Appreciate the link.
        
             | nepthar wrote:
             | Woah. I've been meaning to check out zed but that's a huge
             | problem. I've fixed this problem before in rust, there's
             | just a library you can use to update file trees with a
             | combination of batching fs notifications and a periodic
             | rescan. Wtf guys! Maybe I'll submit a PR... oh wait! I mean
             | delta. :(
        
               | phaistra wrote:
               | What is that library name? Sounds helpful.
        
             | garrettr_ wrote:
             | Similarly, I had to stop using Zed because the main thread
             | would beachball for > 30s when trying to work in large
             | repos on macOS. This behavior was clearly reported to them
             | in a GitHub issue that they also closed without fixing
             | (because they believed a partial fix was sufficient, and
             | have ignored subsequent comments to the contrary):
             | https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/55746
        
             | subarctic wrote:
             | > Closing this as I expect many of the remaining problems
             | described in this issues comments to be fixed by #51208. >
             | > Once that PR makes it to stable (expected March 25th
             | 2026), please create new issues if you are still
             | experiencing problems.
             | 
             | Did you open a new issue?
        
               | the__alchemist wrote:
               | No, but I posted on the existing one. Sounds worth
               | trying.
               | 
               | edit: Done
        
         | tarr11 wrote:
         | What do you use instead?
        
           | the__alchemist wrote:
           | Jetbrains (PyCharm and RustRover) for projects; Sublime for
           | one-off files.
        
             | Hamuko wrote:
             | The last time I checked out Jetbrains' IDEs, they felt
             | heavy as hell to use. Has that changed?
        
               | the__alchemist wrote:
               | No. Still heavy as hell. (AKA uses loads of ram and CPU,
               | slow, sometimes unresponsive). It is the price we pay -
               | the tradeoff is IMO the unmatched editing and
               | introspection/refactoring capabilities. I'm surprised
               | there hasn't been a real competitor in this space.
        
               | rob74 wrote:
               | Yeah, JetBrains IDEs are Java-based, so rather
               | heavyweight. Then again, VS Code (and Cursor) have a
               | browser engine running in the background, so not really
               | better in my book. Sublime and Zed are more efficient of
               | course. OTOH, JetBrains IDEs might be memory intensive,
               | but don't actually _feel_ sluggish on my 5 year old Core
               | i7 laptop with 16 GB RAM.
        
               | za3faran wrote:
               | Visual studio (at least its "core") is written in C++,
               | yet is very heavy weight, so it's not the programming
               | language at play here.
        
               | njovin wrote:
               | I've been running a latest-1 version of a few of their
               | products on silicon Macs since M1 w/ 8GB RAM without
               | issue. I use minimal plugins and work on medium-sized
               | codebases and their IDEs are some of the most reliable
               | software I use.
        
         | etatester wrote:
         | Yikes. I had to stop using JetBrains software for similar
         | reason (their autosave effectively conflicted with external git
         | usage). This is inexcusable to me but to each their own.
        
           | mattm wrote:
           | Don't they have an auto-save setting that you can turn off?
        
             | etatester wrote:
             | Yes, but I think it still behaved weirdly with external
             | changes. It's been a few years now, maybe it discarded any
             | unsaved changes and just re-read the version from disk, or
             | maybe it auto closed any editors for files that didn't
             | exist after a branch change. Awkward behavior like that.
             | VSCode and Sublime Text are much better in this regard.
        
         | everforward wrote:
         | I _think_ they fixed the file sync issue; I haven't had
         | desynced files in a few weeks.
         | 
         | Still a bad bug that lingered entirely too long.
         | 
         | > when a file is changed asynchronously, which for me, most
         | happens due to a pull or LLM edits!
         | 
         | If you're using Pi (I am), that's partially because Pi doesn't
         | have "real" ACP and violates the spec as a result. File
         | read/writes are supposed to happen via ACP RPC calls from the
         | agent to the client, so Zed would see them and know to refresh.
         | Pi wasn't built for ACP so it embeds its own read/write tools
         | and ignores the ACP ones, and Zed never gets the "refresh this
         | file" signal it expects.
        
         | FacelessJim wrote:
         | > Their primary product, the Zed editor, is unusable for me and
         | others due to it mismanaging file syncs on disk - when external
         | edits happen, the editor retains stale state unless you close
         | and re-open the specific file (Not even an editor reopen syncs
         | it). There is a significant risk of your changes being silently
         | overwritten or conflicted.
         | 
         | But isn't Zed written in Rust?
        
       | prodigycorp wrote:
       | I haven't tested this yet, but after reading the post, the issue
       | and the proposed fix make complete sense. I've been relying on
       | markdown files to keep track track of threads. My repository has
       | a mess of files because of it. Look forward to giving this a
       | shot.
        
       | tyingq wrote:
       | Does it expose all my "Jesus Christ Claude, why on earth did you
       | do that? Revert that now and do x instead." ?
       | 
       | Meaning, does it prune out some of the not meaningful path to
       | what exists? It's hard to visualize what they actually get to
       | review.
        
       | acedTrex wrote:
       | Wow that entire workflow looks absolutely hellish
        
       | lucaprata wrote:
       | This is exactly the kind of issue that makes me skeptical of LLM-
       | focused tooling. Source control should make the human/LLM
       | distinction less important, not build the workflow around it.
        
       | emerongi wrote:
       | I applaud Zed for innovating.
       | 
       | I like the workflow presented in the video, although I don't care
       | much about the collaborative part of it. I want to see a polished
       | result from my coworkers, not the messy in-betweens. However,
       | what's clearly super useful is that if you do have the thread as
       | a reviewer, it can shorten the feedback loop - instead of asking
       | "why did you do it this way?" from a coworker, then waiting for
       | them to proxy that to their AI, you can just do it yourself and
       | only leave the comments that truly matter. Some will claim that
       | this removes learning opportunities, and while it's true to some
       | extent, it just means that we need to start training juniors
       | differently. Instead of training them through PR comments, maybe
       | the training moves toward short calls or office chats. That would
       | be kind of nice, actually.
       | 
       | There's some negative comments, but the truth is that this
       | industry is changing, and Zed as a company must capitalize on
       | that. They will need to make money and it would be suicide to
       | expect that a regular code editor will make money in the future.
       | 
       | The innovation they bring is exciting and new, even if I am not
       | sure how it will all pan out.
        
         | manmal wrote:
         | I do want the messy in-betweens. The earlier you catch
         | problems, the cheaper they are to fix. I hope this will become
         | the default of collaborating.
        
       | FinnLobsien wrote:
       | I think the humble PR is definitely not made for this era of
       | software.
       | 
       | It used to be a finished piece of work that meant ,,this is the
       | way I solved this engineering challenge."
       | 
       | The team member could generally answer questions about that PR
       | and why they chose to do it this way, not some other way, explain
       | discarded approaches, etc.
       | 
       | Now a lot of that reasoning happens in AI coding agents. So even
       | if a choice on approach was made, the human presenting the PR
       | rarely has the same depth of understanding of each tradeoff and
       | line of code.
       | 
       | That (in combination with the ease of producing tons of code
       | instantly) makes each PR less meaningful.
       | 
       | I'm not sure I want my coworker's AI chat history (who has time
       | to read all that?), but it's good that innovation is happening.
        
         | dtkav wrote:
         | I want artifacts (PRs / work that was done) instead of
         | sessions. The worst part about this era is that everyone feels
         | productive because they are _doing work_ and sessions are
         | shaped around _doing work_ instead of _delivering_. It is so
         | easy to get duped by AI optimism and not actually ship stuff.
         | 
         | I agree with them that github should die and that we should
         | track every bit of context and every edit, but I am sick of
         | seeing tools about the input instead of the output. I actually
         | only want to see/try PRs. good ones.
        
       | ssijak wrote:
       | I am not sold on this for 2 reasons:
       | 
       | -I was hoping deltadb would be agnostic about who writes/reads to
       | it, but it actually forces you to use their editor/agent harness
       | which is a no go for me.
       | 
       | -I am not sold on the value of reading other people agent threads
       | and jumping into them half baked. Let me review the piece of code
       | when you, person who made it with or without AI, think its ready
       | to be reviewed with nice summary of the change. I don't need to
       | read X threads with XX messages on the process how it was made
       | with all the little "continue", "fix that" in between.
        
         | ahknight wrote:
         | You also upload your code and conversations into their server-
         | hosted DeltaDB service and the only way to remove it is to
         | email their privacy contact.
         | 
         | Thanks but no.
        
           | abeyer wrote:
           | Including non-tracked files that land in your local directory
           | even if they're never committed.
        
       | ch71r22 wrote:
       | It sounds like it has no CI / merge gating solution. This doesn't
       | look like a substitute for pull requests -- just a way of sharing
       | edit history.
       | 
       | I don't buy the argument that being able to trace down the
       | initial LLM prompts that led to a line of code will meaningfully
       | accelerate review. That's just like a more advanced git blame.
       | Reviewers will need to understand the code for themselves. A more
       | advanced git blame doesn't really help with that
       | 
       | Just looking at the final version of the PR without all the
       | intermediate history may be _better_ since it won 't sidetrack
       | you with half-baked thoughts and assumptions from the development
       | process. You can just focus on the result
       | 
       | There are cool things about this, but I'm not convinced it's
       | actually useful. Even less convinced it's a replacement for pull
       | requests. GitHub isn't great but I don't think this is really
       | tackling the problems with GitHub
        
         | melodyogonna wrote:
         | Did you finish the video? It has CI, but I don't know if they
         | implemented merge gating. Though I suppose that could be part
         | of the land skill
        
           | ch71r22 wrote:
           | Ok I rewatched that now. Maybe this could work? I'm still not
           | sure how much confidence to place in their system for merge
           | gating
           | 
           | Having land as a skill seems weird to me. You could write in
           | your land skill that it should make sure CI is passing, but I
           | wouldn't want to leave it up to the LLM to decide if CI is
           | passing. I'd rather that be a decision enforced by the git
           | remote
           | 
           | I think to make this work the way I imagine merge checks
           | should work, I'd have to set up my git remote to only allow
           | fast forward merges with checks passing. I don't think this
           | work very well with my org's current merge queue setup, but
           | might work better for people not using a merge queue
        
       | inguz wrote:
       | "software is made between commits" (their DeltaDb blog at
       | https://zed.dev/blog/introducing-deltadb)... yes!
       | 
       | I tend to think the important bit is traceability of _why_ the
       | software changed in the way it did, but not yet convinced that
       | Delta will help with that.
        
       | RomanKornev wrote:
       | My experience with these Vibe Review tools has been pretty mixed.
       | Fundamentally, they are doing 2 things:
       | 
       | 1. reordering the hunks in a "more relevant" order (instead of
       | alphabetical)
       | 
       | 2. adding some "fluff text" to connect the hunks together in a
       | narrative
       | 
       | In practice, the reordering doesn't shorten the review time that
       | much (and extends it greatly when the order is illogical), and
       | the AI "explanations" rarely add value. The second video's Review
       | Guide in TFA is way longer than the diff itself.
       | 
       | I much prefer the strict 2-pane setup with rationale and diff
       | strictly separated, and the "self-review" author comments in the
       | diff provide the context for reviewers.
       | 
       | Other similar attempts at this UI this year:
       | 
       | - by Graphite https://graphite.com/blog/code-tours (April)
       | 
       | - and CodeRabbit https://www.coderabbit.ai/blog/introducing-
       | change-stack-the-... (May)
       | 
       | Is this seriously supposed to replace Pull Requests?
        
         | mhh__ wrote:
         | frankly i think most of these "tools" are the result of people
         | being addicted to watching the agent shit code out and as such
         | quietly abolishing review.
        
           | RomanKornev wrote:
           | There's tons of good ideas on how to improve the code review,
           | but for some reason everyone just gravitates to the most
           | basic "copilot" experience. I'm sure by next year someone
           | will finally figure out a better flow.
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | I was hoping to see something like this, though I didn't know
       | what form it would take.
       | 
       | A few months ago I was at a demo night in SF and 4 people demo'd
       | essentially the same tool for managing PRs. At the time my
       | thought was "are we really going to be dealing with PRs in 2
       | years.
       | 
       | I don't know if Delta is the right solution, but Zed is at least
       | questioning the current paradigm, which I think is important.
        
       | bzmrgonz wrote:
       | I like this, it is high time we evolved/improved git. Given it's
       | novelty, and the solo effort from Zed, I think an off-ramping
       | mechanism would go a long way to attract more adoption from
       | larger players. I hope forgejo comes onboard, but we must have an
       | exir-ramp just Incase threads isn't AI's preference.
        
       | Robdel12 wrote:
       | Man, I just do not care to see people's LLM conversations. Those
       | are not the artifacts. The changes are. It's like attaching your
       | slack convo with your teammate as a "pr"
        
         | esperent wrote:
         | Really? You don't want to share those messages at the end of a
         | long day where where you found yourself typing "STOP! WHAT THE
         | HELL ARE YOU DOING THAT FOR? I CLEARLY TOLD YOU..."
        
       | aniceperson wrote:
       | github pull requests are not performant. Alternatives that are
       | not JavaScript based are welcome. Many projects still use mail
       | lists for a reason.
        
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