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#Post#: 267--------------------------------------------------
Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: ZergTriumph
Date: November 12, 2020, 6:40 pm
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The very early penalty for terran leaving is way too high. 2
extractors and 4 spawners sets zerg back so far it's impossible
to recover against 2 good terrans. It should be a fixed mineral
penalty.
#Post#: 269--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: medegood
Date: November 12, 2020, 10:49 pm
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I disagree with this, someone leaving early should take and make
it so that the terran can still win, otherwise there will be a
lot of games where everyone just quit after one person leaves
#Post#: 270--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: ZergTriumph
Date: November 13, 2020, 12:33 am
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If the other two terrans are good, zerg cannot win with the very
early leaving penalty. It needs to be reduced. Maybe remove
the spawners but keep the extractors.
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Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Oayoo
Date: November 13, 2020, 1:49 am
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--- Quote from: <H3xPr0>medegood link ---
>
> I disagree with this, someone leaving early should take and
make it so that the terran can still win, otherwise there will
be a lot of games where everyone just quit after one person
leaves
>
--- End Quote ---
You didn't understand what ZergTriumph said: Terran get a free
win if one of the 3 Terrans on the same side leave and the two
others are good. There is no contest anymore.
The penalty shouldn't be that big, i totaly agree with
ZergTrumph on that.
#Post#: 274--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: RickSanchez
Date: November 13, 2020, 2:08 am
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Maybe leave half in that case. 1 extractor and 2 lings. would
like that to rally them over the blocked gasses. :)
#Post#: 276--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Mett Gaming
Date: November 13, 2020, 3:18 am
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The main issue with the early leaver bonus is that you lose an
entire supply with it. So not only do you lose a third of your
eco, everything down the line now also is more expensive.
The mineral penalty just delays you by 1,5 mins or so. Removing
supply gets incrementally worse the longer the game goes on.
Whatever tech you want to go for you now add the cost for an
additional supply upgrade to it.
Wanna get roaches at 1100minerals? Nope you pay an extra 1225
please. It's ok you can afford that. It probably only took you
10 mins to get to the 1k eco point.
Flat minerals stops you for 90s at worst but after that you can
go as you would normally.
If you remove spawners/extractors at least keep the supply.
#Post#: 279--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Oayoo
Date: November 13, 2020, 3:42 am
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Or make the supply cost scale down :)
#Post#: 280--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Speed
Date: November 13, 2020, 3:48 am
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you don't lose the spawner eco btw.
Ye, the penalty is high...
But what's the issue losing to 2 good terrans? You always
complain you lose against 3 good terrans, too. So if 1 terran
leaves, so losing to 2 good terrans is the same shit zzz
The thing is, you lose 2 spires without any compensation, so
that is rough, especially eco zerg^^ For aggro zerg (like
ZergTriumph most likely is) it's actually not the biggest of
deals, you only need to bully 2 terrans which is much easier so
as long as you can pull that off with your reduced eco you're
fine...
ZergTriumph literally just wants a buff to get free wins after 1
terran leaves.. lame.
There is 1 change I thought of, I'll just do it here...
Reduce spire count behind hatchery from 2 to 1, add 4 spires on
the high ground, remove 15 of the 27 starting supply from zerg.
I might go more indepth about the ideas behind this in a
standalone post.
#Post#: 281--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Adam
Date: November 13, 2020, 3:56 am
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as of now v early leavs - auto win for other 2 terrans if they
have at least 2 working brain cells and other side is not totaly
afk allowing 2 zerg to get eco and all ups, it dont need change
it needs as mett and zerg said massive reduction
#Post#: 283--------------------------------------------------
Re: Very early terran leaving penalty is too severe
DIR By: Speed
Date: November 13, 2020, 3:58 am
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And a massive reduction would not be a change? Use your brain
adam...
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