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       #Post#: 1931--------------------------------------------------
       the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Asiown Date: February 25, 2021, 6:54 am
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       ecoing until around 7-10m and then hydra is still overpowered.
       even if u expanded fast and geting fast marines and laser, lets
       say the zerg come at 11m with hydra. even if you hold vs the
       hydras, half of ur marines are dead if not all. then zerg can
       just make more hydras and there is literly nothing u can do vs
       hydras well microed.
       i agree if there are 3 terrans playing, hydra can damage zerg's
       eco too much, but this is never the case and hydra had become
       auto win strategy.  also there used to be a strat called reaper
       push lol. previous hydras was killable by 3-4 shocks or reaper
       jump. you make 1 of these new hydras and no reaper rush in this
       game sir.
       recent patches make this mod fun for premade players.
       i played with najdarof yesterday.
       we both were terrans, i was top terran and he was bottom terran.
       i was much better than the top zerg, he was also much better
       than the bottom zerg, and we ended up losing to 2 noobs simply
       because they focus us and hydra rush us. we had 2 leavers and 2
       teamates that are irrelevant to the game.
       so if me and najdarof(both with 9/1 wining ratio) losing to 2
       new zergs (happyfeet, gough) both of them negative stats and
       less than 100 games, how can this game be balanced?
       i think the most skilled players should win. this isnt the case
       at the moment with the game
       
       #Post#: 1932--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Adam Date: February 25, 2021, 9:55 am
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       yea hydras are way too op right now, lets nerf their max range
       to 6
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       or maybe even 5 just to be sure
       #Post#: 1933--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: RickSanchez Date: February 25, 2021, 10:33 am
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       just make layers mare valuable by increasing growthtime
       Increase Hydra Baserange +1
       Elite Scopes exist, also compensates in term of trading to the
       decreased growthrate.
       Increase Hydra Growth Timer 50 -> 80s
       Hydras trade a little too well. With some more growthtimer you
       can't just mindlessly trade one layer for some marines.
       Increase Hydra Regeneration Delay 0 -> 2s
       The nonexistent delay negates the off-creep-penalty almost
       completly.
       #Post#: 1935--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Dj Spinal Tap Date: February 25, 2021, 8:37 pm
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       Your complaining about Hydra being OP. Give me a break T1
       marines are OP and the statis needs to cost more to use. Along
       with energy from the tech lab. TO be able to continue to push
       and push without never ending waves for zerg is impossible to
       keep up. At least cut the costs on Hydra so we can maintain some
       balance. Since these changes I am about 5% chance of wining.
       Walls being easily upgraded doesnt help. Why give gas from Port?
       Get another speed for zerg! I was fine with firebats before,
       these changes have made me lose interest in this game. Best of
       luck!! I enjoyed before because there was different ways to win.
       Im not going to build an army of Hydra when they can easily get
       quicker marines than I can hydra for the cost. I assume you were
       high when you made these changes and continue to do so. Thank
       you for the time spent on this game. Take care everyone
       #Post#: 1937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: BigNoob Date: February 26, 2021, 1:36 am
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       "I think the most skilled player should win"
       Are you going to pretend like a terran should be able to 1v1 a
       zerg even if his team is full of dead weight?
       I normally don't care about this, but your post history just
       really makes me wonder what you win rate is on both races.
       #Post#: 1938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Asiown Date: February 26, 2021, 5:40 am
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       for bignoob: you know win rate really depends on who you play
       with and if you play premade or not. in EU server i play with my
       clan and my stats is 300-18 terran 118-12 zerg
       on usa i play literaly every lobby, its 200-30 t and 80-30 zerg.
       my ideas are not ment for a 1 terran to be able to solo zerg,
       but yes a pro terran should be able to solo a noob zerg. pro
       zerg will eco and take on 1 terran the way it should be. but
       allowing noob zergs to just hydra rush lonely terrans for me i
       think its wrong.
       for djspinal tap: i think you are confusing with what op is. t1
       marines is really not overpowered. when a terran had long time
       to free eco and can mass them, its eco what op, not the t1
       marines.
       for zerg, you can just blindly make 7 hydras at 10m and trust me
       your going to fuk 1 terran. that is op because regardless what
       terran does, this can happen at 10m.
       for t1 marines to be op, you will need to take eco wisely soon
       for that,with their upgrades and gen level, unlikely hydra just
       make them and send them to trade awesome
       #Post#: 1941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: RickSanchez Date: February 26, 2021, 6:18 am
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       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]my stats is 300-18 terran 118-12 zerg
       (...)NA its 200-30 t and 80-30 zerg.[...][/quote]
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/2tk77GB/Screenshot-1.png
       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]a pro terran should be able to solo a noob
       zerg.[...][/quote]
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       #Post#: 1942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Adam Date: February 26, 2021, 6:40 am
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       [quote author=RickSanchez link=topic=205.msg1941#msg1941
       date=1614341923]
       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]a pro terran should be able to solo a noob
       zerg.[...][/quote]
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/Zd8YP2Y/Screenshot-2.png
       [/quote]
       x)
       perfect
       just perfect
       #Post#: 1947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Asiown Date: February 26, 2021, 8:32 am
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       [quote author=RickSanchez link=topic=205.msg1941#msg1941
       date=1614341923]
       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]my stats is 300-18 terran 118-12 zerg
       (...)NA its 200-30 t and 80-30 zerg.[...][/quote]
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/2tk77GB/Screenshot-1.png
       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]a pro terran should be able to solo a noob
       zerg.[...][/quote]
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/Zd8YP2Y/Screenshot-2.png
       [/quote]
       haha yea i just reset and had first timer twice, what are you
       trying to say
       #Post#: 1948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: the new patch didnt fix hydra being op.
       By: Asiown Date: February 26, 2021, 8:35 am
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       [quote author=Adam link=topic=205.msg1942#msg1942
       date=1614343211]
       [quote author=RickSanchez link=topic=205.msg1941#msg1941
       date=1614341923]
       [quote author=Asiown link=topic=205.msg1938#msg1938
       date=1614339638][...]a pro terran should be able to solo a noob
       zerg.[...][/quote]
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/Zd8YP2Y/Screenshot-2.png
       [/quote]
       x)
       perfect
       just perfect
       [/quote]
       lol you are literalyputing screenshots of me playing.. that
       means alot bro..
       i 99% of the times open with 3 gas and u know it, and some games
       when i have feeling the zerg will mia me at start when i am
       middle i do break rock first, my science, overall you know me as
       perfectroll ,just changed back to original nickname and reseted
       stats again. you played with me enough before i reset my stats,
       my stats is way higher than urs while trolling, so what exactly
       is ur point puting my screen shots and criticizing me whenever u
       can?
       this apply to u adam and the misterious rick sanchez, much
       better than both. u may be better zerg tho
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