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       #Post#: 1686--------------------------------------------------
       Balance request
       By: Riomnaga Date: January 18, 2021, 8:22 pm
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       Well i just got out of a game where terrans used ion at minute
       23 on hive zone making a C shape, inside they teleported some 5
       italis, because of ion path last so long i wasn't able to do
       anything about it, so 1 ion and 4 italis was all it took to end
       a game as a turtling terran
       #Post#: 1687--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Buggo Date: January 18, 2021, 8:58 pm
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       more than 4 terran coordinate attack, u pretty much dead anyway.
       Also, there is a lot stuff u need to know as zerg player. U need
       to smell the cheese before it comes. They did that to me as
       well, lost 2 italis and an ion, ez win. And this is also you
       havent played against opl as zerg yet.
       If I see 3 turtles, is always an automatic win. 3 gas turtle is
       different
       #Post#: 1689--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Adam Date: January 19, 2021, 4:26 am
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       [quote author=Riomnaga link=topic=172.msg1686#msg1686
       date=1611022949]
       Well i just got out of a game where terrans used ion at minute
       23 on hive zone making a C shape, inside they teleported some 5
       italis, because of ion path last so long i wasn't able to do
       anything about it, so 1 ion and 4 italis was all it took to end
       a game as a turtling terran
       [/quote]
       1 ion and 4 italis and 0 awarness from zerg was all it took to
       end a game as a turtling terran
       here fixed it for u, no need to thank
       #Post#: 1690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Speed Date: January 19, 2021, 6:31 am
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       Played with italis clan members (2 terran, 1 zerg with me)
       My ally had 3k income at 23minutes because he built spines,
       hydras and infestors all over the high ground, only for terrans
       to go for standard 9x ion win. Just be like that and fuck your
       eco so you don't die to it.
       More serious;
       If all terrans turtle you obviously rush eco and you make some
       hydras & infestors and spines  to try and make it harder for
       terrans to pull a move like that. Don't kill your eco to 3k at
       23min though, that's not how you kill turtles.
       Ended up barely winning the game, terrans needed 1 more ion on
       hive.
       And no, this doesn't need rebalancing, it definetely is easier
       to pull this kind of stuff off than it should be for 5-6 premade
       terrans, but shouldn't be touched just because of that. If
       anything the stupid gas generation on yard could be removed,
       it's a silly change encouraging 1 gas bunker play resulting in
       9x ion / ion circle italis strategies, but take this with a
       grain of salt since I'm a T1 tryhard xd
       #Post#: 1692--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: ZergTriumph Date: January 19, 2021, 10:44 am
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       Gotta love online gaming forums. Complain about stupid bullshit
       in games, and all the "experts", who only play in premades so
       they can troll in pubs, come out to shout you down.
       #Post#: 1695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Speed Date: January 19, 2021, 11:27 am
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       [quote author=ZergTriumph link=topic=172.msg1692#msg1692
       date=1611074681]
       Gotta love online gaming forums. Complain about stupid bullshit
       in games, and all the "experts", who only play in premades so
       they can troll in pubs, come out to shout you down.
       [/quote]
       Gotta love online gaming forums. Complain about stupid bullshit
       in games, and have no idea what you are talking about at all.
       Premades are usually played in parties of 2, sometimes 3, rarely
       4 and personally I feel like 2 is ideal. However this "expert"
       "ZergTriumph" obviously knows how my premades work better than I
       do without ever having been a part of it.
       ZergTriumph please keep posting, few things are as enjoyable as
       to meme on your dumbass posts x)
       #Post#: 1700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: ZergTriumph Date: January 19, 2021, 11:53 am
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       I'm glad I bring meaning to your life.
       #Post#: 1701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Adam Date: January 19, 2021, 12:16 pm
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       [quote author=ZergTriumph link=topic=172.msg1692#msg1692
       date=1611074681]
       Gotta love online gaming forums. Complain about stupid bullshit
       in games, and all the "experts", who only play in premades so
       they can troll in pubs, come out to shout you down.
       [/quote]
       kek u need to play in premade to be able to figure out where
       hydra button is before 20 min mark and then press it 6-8 times
       which completely shoot down any italis cheese? x)
       top lvl gameplay right there
       #Post#: 1702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: ZergTriumph Date: January 19, 2021, 12:37 pm
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       kek kek kek edgelord rek noob with facts and logic
       #Post#: 1703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Balance request
       By: Speed Date: January 19, 2021, 12:40 pm
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       [quote author=ZergTriumph link=topic=172.msg1702#msg1702
       date=1611081476]
       kek kek kek edgelord rek noob with facts and logic
       [/quote]
       I mean unlike you adam really uses facts and logic x)
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