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       #Post#: 1104--------------------------------------------------
       Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Sabris Date: December 2, 2020, 3:50 pm
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       Hello
       i was wondering if some high experienced players would mind
       sharing some of their games so we little noobs can actually
       learn something  ;D
       i Mostly play zerg and in this patch im having some difficulties
       dealing with multiple strong terrans (this mean i absolutely get
       rekt so i kinda avoid lobbies with named people with insane
       stats)
       i kinda tried the build described with multi infestor to heal
       spine (but sadly t2 marine could kill it faster than my heals
       with the bubble thing)
       i tried doing full for eco for 8 min but sadly i saw a lot of t1
       marine pushing for victory...
       i even tried to apply some fast aggression but without success
       Ingame is difficult to learn since most people just scream for
       whatever reason, and dont give any constructive feedbacks.
       if possible would be interesting to see some replay of people
       actually knowning what they do.
       Games of like super op terran (by knowledge) aganist average/bad
       zerg which result in obvious win for terran wont make anyone get
       better same with 800win zerg playing aganist 6 average terran.
       maybe some replay of good zerg vs good terran or average zerg vs
       average terrans.
       Thanks for reading
       #Post#: 1105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Oayoo Date: December 2, 2020, 4:20 pm
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       If you wanna see replays, best advise i can give you is to come
       in our discord channel ! We have a replay channel with lot of
       good games.
       But the best is directly to ask us for our best ones. (can't put
       them on this forum :( )
  HTML https://discord.gg/be75x4a
       #Post#: 1110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Sabris Date: December 2, 2020, 5:30 pm
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       [quote author=Oayoo link=topic=118.msg1105#msg1105
       date=1606947639]
       If you wanna see replays, best advise i can give you is to come
       in our discord channel ! We have a replay channel with lot of
       good games.
       But the best is directly to ask us for our best ones. (can't put
       them on this forum :( )
  HTML https://discord.gg/be75x4a
       [/quote]
       Hello thanks for the Reply i managed to join and download the
       replays..
       well what can i say basically even you and Speed that are insane
       strong players were struggling to averange/strong terrans even
       with your extreme coordination .
       Basically since i play with random players i dont think it's
       possible to aganist any decent terran (unless i meet a strong
       zerg player and terran and kinda average)
       it's either i make a premade or is kinda difficult on normal
       games.
       the only case of zerg winning (on random i suppose) is when
       Komodowaran met 2 stron terran and the rest average (and zerg
       struggled a lot even in that case)
       thanks a lot for the informations guess ill find a teammate  :P
       
       #Post#: 1112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Mett Gaming Date: December 2, 2020, 6:04 pm
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       It is pretty impossible to win vs 3 or more good terrans.
       Especially when you don't have good communication. Now that
       roaches are trash the only way to beat better terrans is to tech
       up even higher. But with 2 good terrans on one side it's
       insanely hard to get there before dying. Zerg really needs some
       love in that respect. I managed to win my first (and only) zerg
       game today in this recent patch and it was a nightmare. OK not
       very representative as I'm streaming and get way above average
       terrans because of that, but it wasn't that bad previous patch.
       #Post#: 1114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Oayoo Date: December 2, 2020, 6:08 pm
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       In every patch of Zerg hex, if you wanna win as Zerg you must
       find a mate.
       Last patch was easier because there was an overpowered unit^^.
       Now that the game is more balanced, playing alone is kinda
       impossible as Zerg unless you luckily have a good mate.
       Lot of Zergs loose because they can't accept that Terran expand
       early game.
       When they loose their hatches they quit the game.
       As long as you don't loose your big spines you are fine. Your
       goal is to deal as much damage as you can to Terrans (Try to
       snipe gases, yard, armory, stuff like that to delay the terrans)
       While you do that you full eco to tech a nice unit. 2K5 each
       ===> roaches/primals, 3K/3K5 each ====> ultra, 4K/4K5 each ===>
       bruts
       You can totaly reboot vets with primals in this patch, you
       should try it. I almost lost a game against primals 2 days ago.
       #Post#: 1115--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Oayoo Date: December 2, 2020, 6:22 pm
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       But yeah, for sure i think Zergs need buff.
       At heXnabs we always wanted for Zerg to get a buff, but first we
       had to ask for a rework/removal of the stupid overpowered units.
       Now that there are no stupid stuff anymore (Italis somehow
       escaped the wrath of 4.0), Wmaster can start to work around that
       eco build to make it a little stronger (some way to delay the
       terrans or stuff like that).
       Now let's think of clever stuff we can propose to make Zergs
       just a little more resilient early game without forgeting the
       core of the game: Zerg are stronger later game, and Terran are
       stronger early game.
       #Post#: 1116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Sabris Date: December 2, 2020, 6:34 pm
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       hello
       thanks a lot for the reply
       Honestly i manged to play some more games im kinda embarassed to
       say but to win as zerg is kinda difficult because if any side
       has 2 good terran is very very difficult to stop them.
       I Noticed most people will just quit on lobby if certain names
       pops out and basically out of 5 games the zergs were under 10
       games played (i played terran to see how many strong zerg on
       random games)
       if you notice a premade zerg instead Strong terrans wont join
       and go directly to the 2 lobby (lol).
       also in 3 games everyone picked terran directly, and if there is
       a lobby where there are 3 or 4 zerg  picker most of the time is
       their first run and will get stomped (well on first time is
       kinda normal  i think)
       ill try to improve as much as possible but for the moment i
       think that for certain lobbies is best to play terran lol..
       #Post#: 1122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Speed Date: December 3, 2020, 4:24 am
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       Damn, meanwhile I can play no real zerg games... I get it rarely
       and last time I did 3 terrans quit between minute 2 and 3 xD
       I just want to try making 3 hydras and snipe T1s!! :D I want to
       try since a couple days ago, but no opportunity x)
       Yeah, zerg has always been weak... Remember when I told you I
       had 69/3 stats terran last patch? Yeah, I had 1 premade every
       time, but chemical was just that abusive in all the games T1
       failed (many. Too easy to tech into roaches, it's almost
       impossible to die before, unless 4+ terrans really know their
       shit). There's almost always bad terrans to compensate for it (I
       dislike playing in a 4 stack for a reason). I guess I need to
       play NA to get zerg :)
       #Post#: 1123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Speed Date: December 3, 2020, 4:28 am
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       [quote author=Mett Gaming link=topic=118.msg1112#msg1112
       date=1606953881]
       Now that roaches are trash the only way to beat better terrans
       is to tech up even higher.
       [/quote]
       Says it all. "even higher", 2.7k is so much tech lmao :)
       I had to get 800+1900+4300+5300+8000=20300 tech in last patch by
       min 20. (saving at ~17-18minutes). You don't know pain.
       #Post#: 1125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Some good Gameplay replay (to improve)
       By: Mett Gaming Date: December 3, 2020, 5:39 am
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       [quote author=<heXnab>Speed link=topic=118.msg1123#msg1123
       date=1606991333]
       You don't know pain.
       [/quote]
       I suppose you know me well enough to know that
       Also:
       [quote author=Mett Gaming link=topic=37.msg290#msg290
       date=1605263257]
       I admire your ability to derail any constructive conversation
       Speed.
       [/quote]
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