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Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: yogasimplifiedmethod Date: October 11, 2022, 12:03 pm
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Chapter Five - Merging With Others
Reflect on the first page of the chapter, highlighting several
questions: Where will you find protection, comfort, and support
when life on the path gets difficult? Who will ask penetrating
questions that force you to dig deeper for self-understanding?
Etc... In this chapter, Dr. Goldberg talks about companions and
camaraderie. I like to call it the buddy system. In scuba
diving, we always have to have a buddy with us at all times to
make sure we're safe. Since we cannot speak underwater (some
technology allows people to say, but for the most part, divers
use gestures or board to communicate), we must be aware of our
well-being and buddy at all times. We are taught to expand the
standard ways of communication while exploring the depths of the
sea. Our emotions and thoughts also have depth; we're not taught
just to "dive in." We must go through a process to prepare
ourselves. This includes trust, patience, alertness, hand
gestures, etc. The same can be said for many other facets of
life.
Choose one of the travel tips at the end of chapter five that
resonates with you the most. For instance, I will answer
question five.
On a scale from 1-5, I would say I'm a 3.5. There are many
topics and beliefs I question that would probably give a reason
for those to question my spirituality simply because I don't
follow the norm. I don't follow spiritual teachers, wear
traditional spiritual clothing (certain colors based on my
mindset or name-brand gear), and try to stay quite grounded and
process my thoughts/emotions versus acting upon them. That is
just me, personally. I have witnessed many spiritual people
completely lost in life yet portrayed to the world a persona to
garner believers. I'm a devout follower but dabble in many (as
the book suggests). I believe I am no better than others and
where they are in life, and what may direct me down a peaceful
path, maybe troublesome for someone to do the same. They may be
unfilled.
What question would you like to answer for yourself?
Chapter 6 - Possible Delays Due To Organized Tours
Discussing travel tip, question one. Has an organization ever
spoken to you with reflective questions? I would like to look at
The Collective as an example. The reason(s) why you love going
to the Collective is probably because you do get to be yourself,
there is no pressure to conform, nobody is fanatical (unless
you're just a fanatic about a format :-)), nobody is pressuring
you to give more, instructors encourage you to be the best
version of yourself with their support, everyone feels
important, seen and heard at the Collective.
Another organization may or may not come to mind when answering
these questions, but I can say for me personally I know I have
encountered some subtle hostility in certain environments over
the years. Fortunately, nothing too debilitating but enough to
make me decide where I should channel my energy to.
Feel free to talk about the Collective, charitable organization,
school activities, outside clubs, etc., that you felt [or did
not] feel a part of and what you learned from it.
#Post#: 93--------------------------------------------------
Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: Kelli Cook Date: October 13, 2022, 3:50 pm
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Chapter 5
I have to begin with, this is the first time I have ever dabbled
or read into a spiritual path. As I mentioned before, I grew up
in a very Catholic Family, but once I was on my own, I did not
return to that religion and to be honest, could not tell you
much about it to this day. I was forced to attend. So for me,
I do not necessarily have a spiritual companion or am I one
either. Des, I would say you are the closet one to it, as you
are the beginning of opening up this view to me! I feel like
you emulate a lot of the qualities this book lists off to us as
your YTT students.
I am going to specifically answer question #5 from the Travel
Tips. I hope to cultivate the ability to listen deeply without
judgement and to “walk her talk” and help others walk theirs. I
hope to continue the discipline of learning more after our YTT
journey and remain consistent in my practice. And with this
newly developed knowledge, I hope to share it with others and
encourage them to try what has helped me so tremendously .
Chapter 6
Again, in this chapter, my mother was in the back of my head.
While I love her dearly and she honestly is not one who belongs
to the “cult” of organized religion. She believes whole heartly
in her Catholicism and cannot understand why I do not. I am
lucky enough she respects the boundaries and it does not truly
cause a wedge between us, but I know it disappoints her and at
times she finds ways to bring it up. Especially around
baptizing my son, Bryce. So with that said, reading this chapter
actually really helped me be OK with my decision. There are a
handful of things I just do not agree with in organized
religion, in the Catholic faith, and that is OK. I have
experienced some things in my life that the church would not be
OK with. It makes me uneasy and upset to think that they could
have conformed my way of thinking on a matter to be something
different. The church sees it this way, and so do you, kind of
thinking. This did not sit well with me. Again, to each their
own. And like the book said, there are devout honest
trustworthy people who find the good in organized religion and
these people also see the good in others and are not judgmental
if your views do not align with theirs. They can understand
other perspectives. But unfortunately there are many others
that lean the other direction as well. I am going into a
tangent now 😊 This clearly is a subject that hits home!
The quote at the end of the chapter REALLY spoke to me. Hit
home. “Strictly speaking, no one seeking the peace that
surpasses understanding really needs the trapping of an
organization – not the buildings, not the rituals, not the
anointed leaders, not the fellowship – because the true abode of
the Divine is the heart.”
Collective Studios is also an AMAZING example of this. This
studio has brought back the fire inside me to move my body,
breath, take time for myself, be kind (everyone is SO nice when
you walk into the place). The studio is so relaxing and
calming. The instructors are amazing and kind. I look forward
to going to the studio every time!
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Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: heidi91@comcast.net Date: October 15, 2022, 7:03 am
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I have to start off by saying this book really makes you think
about things deeply. I also grew up with not much focus on
religion I was baptized as a child in the Catholic Church but
growing up never really attended church services. My husbands
family are faithful Catholics so I grew to learn more from him
and before I was married I as an adult made my confirmation to
have the knowledge to raise my children and be able to educate
them. I never fully embraced it I just don’t fully agree with it
all and being the mother of a gay son it made me realize so much
has to change with not only the Catholic church but many other
organizations in life but that’s a whole separate topic…. Lol!
Just sharing that as background kinda like Kellie mentioned I’m
not focused on one specific spiritual organization. I chose
question 2: I would love my spiritual friends to be
compassionate, to be trustworthy, to be educated, to be strong
minded, some to be open minded and integral. I wish I had found
this book years ago I think it would of saved a lot of heart
ache but grateful to have it now.
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Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: heidi91@comcast.net Date: October 15, 2022, 7:11 am
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Chapter 6 although I don’t follow any specific spiritual
organization I am grateful to be part of an amazing team at
work, sometimes jokingly I call it a cult… lol I as you know
Anna hairstylist and I also educate other stylist all over the
United States for a company called Eufora based in California
and it’s an amazing group that on reading chapter 6 made me
think of the people within this community everyone truly believe
in each other we want others to succeed and do good. There’s no
judgement everyone is open honest and inviting. There’s
constructive criticism not belittling. I guess in some respect
this is part of my spiritual organization.
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Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: oliviamarotta Date: October 15, 2022, 12:46 pm
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[quote author=heidi91@comcast.net link=topic=10.msg95#msg95
date=1665835381]
I have to start off by saying this book really makes you think
about things deeply. I also grew up with not much focus on
religion I was baptized as a child in the Catholic Church but
growing up never really attended church services. My husbands
family are faithful Catholics so I grew to learn more from him
and before I was married I as an adult made my confirmation to
have the knowledge to raise my children and be able to educate
them. I never fully embraced it I just don’t fully agree with it
all and being the mother of a gay son it made me realize so much
has to change with not only the Catholic church but many other
organizations in life but that’s a whole separate topic…. Lol!
Just sharing that as background kinda like Kellie mentioned I’m
not focused on one specific spiritual organization. I chose
question 2: I would love my spiritual friends to be
compassionate, to be trustworthy, to be educated, to be strong
minded, some to be open minded and integral. I wish I had found
this book years ago I think it would of saved a lot of heart
ache but grateful to have it now.
[/quote]
Heidi, I'm so glad you shared this and I can relate a lot to
your experiences and feelings. My family grew up attending
church on special occasions and we were enrolled in CCD
throughout elementary and middle school, and all received
confirmation in high school. I never felt like I connected to
the faith in the way that others seemed to.
My older brother is gay which makes it very difficult for me to
support institutions that view him as less than whole or
unworthy of the same rights and love as anyone else. Luckily, my
family and my parents are all so supportive and accepting of
him, as he deserves nothing less, but unfortunately that is not
the case for many people in the LGBTQ+ community. I am sure your
son is so grateful for your open-mind and unconditional love!
#Post#: 99--------------------------------------------------
Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: Niki Ehrenkranz Date: October 15, 2022, 4:20 pm
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Chapter 5
Question 6- Reflecting on the quote: Searching for an answer
with a companion is better than searching alone. Walking through
life alone can, at times, make you feel lost or feel like you're
going in circles.
Being able to ask someone for help can make you feel supported.
Talking through an experience with a friend that may have worked
through a similar experience may provide a different
perspective. Discussing experiences may help learn from others
mistakes or help decide which direction to continue in.
Walking with someone to find "the way out" or the way home
allows you to work together but also speak up when you have a
gut feeling. Know when to be the student and when to be the
teacher.
Chapter 6
TCS is the only organization that I am currently part of that I
feel very aligned with. Being part of YTT allows me the space
and community to reflect on spirituality which I have not done
outside family and friends in years.
Growing up my family jumped to a few different synagogues in
search for what aligned with us, following friends or people as
we evolved. I never felt pressure to conform, everyone was
always warm and accepting. My parents allowed my sister and I to
make our own spiritual choices. I've always felt connected with
something bigger than myself, as I continue to evolve it's
finding communities like TCS that encourage self discovery and
drive to learn from others.
#Post#: 104--------------------------------------------------
Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: oliviamarotta Date: October 16, 2022, 10:19 am
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Chapter Five - Merging With Others
[I]Travel Tip: list the most important qualities you would like
your spiritual friends to have.[/i]
I think that it is most important for a spiritual friend to be
trustworthy and a good listener. They should genuinely care to
share in your life experiences and offer advice or thoughts
without pushing their beliefs or experiences on you. On the
other hand, a spiritual friend that just tells you what you want
to hear is not beneficial for either party, as one carries on in
disillusionment and the other feels unfulfilled in their ability
to speak their mind honestly. It is important to find a balance
between being supportive but also conversing truthfully and
openly.
Chapter 6 - Possible Delays Due To Organized Tours
I would say that an organization I did not feel at home in was
the fashion program at the college I attended as a freshman. I
went to New York for college, thinking that I wanted to pursue
an education and career in fashion merchandising. I worked
really hard throughout high school to get good grades and
qualify for scholarships so that I could attend this school,
however it didn’t play out as I had imagined. My classes were
filled with girls who were more concerned with which designer
bag they were going to carry to class than about the assignments
or topics of discussion. I felt completely out of place
attending lectures in leggings and a sweater, as my classmates
looked as if they were about to attend a fashion show. Certain
professors even commented that the fashion faculty takes note of
what you wear to class, so dress to impress. I felt like there
was such an emphasis on materialistic things rather than the
knowledge that we were supposed to be acquiring. I performed
well in my classes and was able to understand the material, but
I knew that this was not an environment I was meant to be in. I
didn’t care if my shoes were from this season or last season’s
collection, but I realized that a future in this field meant an
entire career of networking with superficial people who can
dress the part but not think critically about the fashion
business. I made the decision to transfer schools at the end of
my freshmen year, and am so glad I did. I found a really great
community of friends at the college I transferred to, with
people who valued me for the person I was and not who I dressed
to be.
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Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: yogasimplifiedmethod Date: October 16, 2022, 7:16 pm
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[quote author=Kelli Cook link=topic=10.msg93#msg93
date=1665694204]
Chapter 5
I have to begin with, this is the first time I have ever dabbled
or read into a spiritual path. As I mentioned before, I grew up
in a very Catholic Family, but once I was on my own, I did not
return to that religion and to be honest, could not tell you
much about it to this day. I was forced to attend. So for me,
I do not necessarily have a spiritual companion or am I one
either. Des, I would say you are the closet one to it, as you
are the beginning of opening up this view to me! I feel like
you emulate a lot of the qualities this book lists off to us as
your YTT students.
I am going to specifically answer question #5 from the Travel
Tips. I hope to cultivate the ability to listen deeply without
judgement and to “walk her talk” and help others walk theirs. I
hope to continue the discipline of learning more after our YTT
journey and remain consistent in my practice. And with this
newly developed knowledge, I hope to share it with others and
encourage them to try what has helped me so tremendously .
Chapter 6
Again, in this chapter, my mother was in the back of my head.
While I love her dearly and she honestly is not one who belongs
to the “cult” of organized religion. She believes whole heartly
in her Catholicism and cannot understand why I do not. I am
lucky enough she respects the boundaries and it does not truly
cause a wedge between us, but I know it disappoints her and at
times she finds ways to bring it up. Especially around
baptizing my son, Bryce. So with that said, reading this chapter
actually really helped me be OK with my decision. There are a
handful of things I just do not agree with in organized
religion, in the Catholic faith, and that is OK. I have
experienced some things in my life that the church would not be
OK with. It makes me uneasy and upset to think that they could
have conformed my way of thinking on a matter to be something
different. The church sees it this way, and so do you, kind of
thinking. This did not sit well with me. Again, to each their
own. And like the book said, there are devout honest
trustworthy people who find the good in organized religion and
these people also see the good in others and are not judgmental
if your views do not align with theirs. They can understand
other perspectives. But unfortunately there are many others
that lean the other direction as well. I am going into a
tangent now 😊 This clearly is a subject that hits home!
The quote at the end of the chapter REALLY spoke to me. Hit
home. “Strictly speaking, no one seeking the peace that
surpasses understanding really needs the trapping of an
organization – not the buildings, not the rituals, not the
anointed leaders, not the fellowship – because the true abode of
the Divine is the heart.”
Collective Studios is also an AMAZING example of this. This
studio has brought back the fire inside me to move my body,
breath, take time for myself, be kind (everyone is SO nice when
you walk into the place). The studio is so relaxing and
calming. The instructors are amazing and kind. I look forward
to going to the studio every time!
[/quote]
When something is forced upon a person, it leaves such PTSD in
the mind, especially if it's something that person just does not
jive with. I appreciate the sentiment of opening you up, and I
hope I'm not the only one as you continue to navigate through
the fluctuations of thoughts, meanings, emotions, and decisions
as you move forward. As far as walking the walk and talking the
talk, it's all about being real and as they say "authentic." But
even the word authentic is diluted in this industry, so as long
as you negate the struggles as well as the wins, people will get
the information you share with them. If they don't get it, they
will want to, at the very least, learn something from it.
The book is really a powerful read; simple but cuts through the
BS. Dr. Goldberg has been around a few years, and his anecdotes
are so refreshing to know, a yogi scholar who has dabbled in
drugs of spiritual fixes reminds us, we have what we need
inside. If you want to dabble now and again, great, but don't do
it because "all the cool kids are," it's more about tapping into
your personal beliefs and stand firm in what works for you and
you only.
The Collective is a great foundation of support, interaction,
uplifting, energetic, and calming all at the same time.
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Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: yogasimplifiedmethod Date: October 16, 2022, 7:21 pm
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[quote author=heidi91@comcast.net link=topic=10.msg95#msg95
date=1665835381]
I have to start off by saying this book really makes you think
about things deeply. I also grew up with not much focus on
religion I was baptized as a child in the Catholic Church but
growing up never really attended church services. My husbands
family are faithful Catholics so I grew to learn more from him
and before I was married I as an adult made my confirmation to
have the knowledge to raise my children and be able to educate
them. I never fully embraced it I just don’t fully agree with it
all and being the mother of a gay son it made me realize so much
has to change with not only the Catholic church but many other
organizations in life but that’s a whole separate topic…. Lol!
Just sharing that as background kinda like Kellie mentioned I’m
not focused on one specific spiritual organization. I chose
question 2: I would love my spiritual friends to be
compassionate, to be trustworthy, to be educated, to be strong
minded, some to be open minded and integral. I wish I had found
this book years ago I think it would of saved a lot of heart
ache but grateful to have it now.
[/quote]
The faith many of you were raised on has its intentions and the
amount of followers is astonishing! If it works for others,
fantastic but a belief should never be forced upon others. I too
have a gay stepson and there was bit of hesitancy coming out to
us, but we celebrated it and reminded him no matter what he
believes, who he loves, we love him the way he is. So I can
relate to that to some degree and religious beliefs within the
family. It can be tough and if the gut instinct is to not follow
fully to a belief, it brings you a sense of control, knowing
nothing is controlling your thoughts. RoadSigns is all about
embracing what works for you.
I'm glad you are enjoying the book now and hopefully, you will
be able to recommend it to others in the future as a resource.
#Post#: 119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Road Signs - Chapter 5/6
By: yogasimplifiedmethod Date: October 16, 2022, 7:25 pm
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[quote author=heidi91@comcast.net link=topic=10.msg96#msg96
date=1665835863]
Chapter 6 although I don’t follow any specific spiritual
organization I am grateful to be part of an amazing team at
work, sometimes jokingly I call it a cult… lol I as you know
Anna hairstylist and I also educate other stylist all over the
United States for a company called Eufora based in California
and it’s an amazing group that on reading chapter 6 made me
think of the people within this community everyone truly believe
in each other we want others to succeed and do good. There’s no
judgement everyone is open honest and inviting. There’s
constructive criticism not belittling. I guess in some respect
this is part of my spiritual organization.
[/quote]
Being an educator is such a rewarding position, isn't it? I
enjoy reading about the camaraderie within the company that
helps others and encourages others to expand. I think it does
have a spiritual element because deep down and wholeheartedly
you enjoy what you do and the energy the company has. Look at it
through the lens of the fab four pathways; Devotional, Action,
Knowledge, and the culmination of such gives you a reason to
stay with the company, to be an educator, to be a part of
something that gives back and your expertise is celebrated.
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