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#Post#: 469--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: racism
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 6:43 am
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I have seen myself where a typical official Wows forum member
said that he call others mongoloids and that method silence
them. I'm not sure if it is possible to find it up now because
the forum deletes. But such examples show nicely a racist
attitude and the silent support from the community. We try to
collect in the future such pearls about racism here. The terms
Pearl and Racism are again fine and I hope nobody starts to talk
about those or grammar next.
Is IQ a physical attribute? I believe it is and we can collect
iq-racism examples here too. For all those examples and
attitudes behind the racism term in Wows I would ask people: do
you really like it? I don't use the term toxic but Wows
community probably would call it toxicity instead of Racism.
Then rephrase the question for yourself and think about it. It
looks like obsessed people whose main argument is penis size.
Why to be obsessed in stats/size and use it as the main source
of the truth. And why to dislike the term Racism, if the stats
and size in the given example are the same things and used the
same ways.
#Post#: 470--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Typical brainwashed defeated believes
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 7:12 am
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One more example of racism is that user Speed has in his
signature stats-racism. That is an example how stats-racism
spreads and that also shows the way the truth is decided in the
racist community. The goal of his signature would be the same if
he wrote this way:
The admin is a black and his penis size is: 2.
If you like to call it as toxicity then go ahead but understand
that such size, skin colour, stats world is far from democracy
and enjoyable to sadistic humans. Again, chose a more pleasant
term if you like.
I personally don't suffer about anyone's stats and skin colour.
Have you seen that I suffer or do stats-racism? No, I don't care
about any stats. If I started to care, would I start to lose any
debates, or enjoy entertainment more, or play less Golden
league, or write less tutorials, etc? No, of course not.
#Post#: 471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Typical brainwashed defeated believes
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 7:31 am
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You describe obsessive behaviour in entertainment which is not
mentally fine and makes stress and sufferings. While a typical
entertainment enjoyer like me enjoys and relaxes you as obsessed
wows typical player are stressed and spreads negativity.
I assume there are psychological reasons why one is mentally
unstable and obsessed etc and so called toxic. The cure for such
sufferings is a guru in my opinion. Lot of dialogues, debates,
which the sick one obviously loses but little by little comes to
reality and becomes well.
If one claims that he likes the so called toxicity/racism, then
it is sadism and grows sooner or later bigger problems, like
crime, suicides, etc.
I don't see why it is not enough to show skills 1 time per year
like in sports? But in Wows I am every day many times TOP 1 in
Gold league, and that is the truth and can be proved if someone
doubts again. Isn't that enough to prove skills and enjoy
victories? It can't be luck even for the most brainwashed
believer and again proof replays can be provided.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=14.msg461#msg461
date=1663802010]
In wows I do not want to win once a year, i want to win as often
as possible (more xp so more ships). Therefor i want someone who
can win as often as possible, not the guy who wins once a year.
And if skills show up once a year, it's way more likely that
it's just luck
[/quote]
#Post#: 472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: stats
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 9:24 am
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The question was in general not about me or any specific person.
And it is always adequate to stay o nthe general level and not
in the personal level and this Wiki topic doesn't talk about
you, me, or John, but talks general. The question contained the
general subject one and you answered to it: "Can you explain how
one ".
If you answered again from irrelevant personal level like is
common for your community then one person examples are not
adequate. We can always show many different persons and the
result is that we can't generalize any truth out from those.
That's why personal level and personal attacks are irrelevant
and inadequate. Do you agree?
Your answer below looks like it answers in general and not for
anyone specifc because it positions below my question.
You have following options here:
1) agree that your answer was general and not for a specific
person. In that case you lose your argument because as i
explained already that in wows you don't find people by your
complex criteria.
2) you say that you answer was on personal level about some
specific person. In that case you can admit that you made
mistake by reading too fast etc and thought that i ask about a
specific person soemthing. Do you admit that msitake? And in
that case do you admit that you were inadequate because personal
level is always inadequate? I will reply later anyway to you in
case 2. But first confirm that you chose the point 2 here.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg421#msg421
date=1663765191]
[quote author=wows link=topic=70.msg419#msg419 date=1663762365]
Can you show were in your text answered to my question?
The question was: Can you explain how one do actively choose to
stay bad at the game?
[/quote]
Once again the answer was alrteady provided in my previous post
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg417#msg417
date=1663762108]
By believing to be good and dismissing anyone prooving you wrong
by calling them racist, you are refusing to learn from better
player and actively choosing to stay bad
[/quote]
[/quote]
#Post#: 473--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: stats
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 10:42 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg442#msg442
date=1663797164]
Let me try again :
[list type=decimal]
[li]You think you are a good player[/li][/list]
[/quote]
I don't use the term Good but i understand what your community
means that one wins 55% battles during an evening. So, if one
does 11 battles and wins 6 then that was a Good player and a
Good play. And your community titles a person as Good/55 for as
long as his overall average from all years show 55. For example,
if a player starts those 11 battles then he is titled already
Good no matter which stats he had for yesterday. If we loses all
those 11 battles then he is stil ltitles as Good because his
overall years stats show that. That is your communities
understanding of the term Good and you like to use it with the
lowercase g-letter. So, i believe i understand correctly how
your community uses that term. Firstly, i don't use your term,
and i don't use the word "good" even as it is generally in
dictionaris when talking about skills. Because it is an
inadequate and misleading word, both as a term and non-term, and
it is also spreading stats-racism which you call toxicity i
guess. Now i have to use that word and i comment that i don't
think that i am Good/55 by your term. Because my history doesn't
show 55. I have made max 70% days and 20% days but your
definition of Good doesn't count those. Thus, i am not Good by
your term. And by general subjective word "good" i would call
everyone only after 1 battle. If they demonstrated good skills
then this i call as good and this is the general meaning of the
good. But it is very debatable what exactly was good tactically
and other ways in a battle so i don't use such word good. Of
course i make generally good battles so why should i think that
i am bad or that i can't or think something depressive perhaps?
I think everyone are good i nentertainment, just liek in life al
lpeopel have something good and some strong skills. So, in
general, yes, i am good if you insist that word, but i prefer to
say that all Gold league players have equal skills, all are good
if you like that term. So, in a way you are right that yes, i
beleive that i play fine entertainment games. Can you provide
some posts or proof that shows that i somehow say that i am best
or that others are wrose than me etc? Or why do you think that i
believe that i am good and what do you mean by your good?
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg442#msg442
date=1663797164]
[list][li]Someone says you aren't and as proof they show you
your stats[/li][/list]
[/quote]
Why should in entertainment someone say that others are not
good? I don't say such things in entertainment. Don't you agree
that it is not polite to say that and the good is inadequate
term? Why should someone have so sick ego that has to say in a
pub to others all the time that they are not good people and not
good players? If you agree that Wows community does such
behaviour all the time then don't you agree that the more
important topic should be how to cure your community, and not
how skillful someone is in entertainment games?
You say that Stats are proof how good someone is. In that case
your definition of the Good is exactly as i described above. And
as i proved your word "good" is inadequate i nthat case because
it titles even 11 losses as good before and after doing them.
Using lowercase g-letter that doesn't sound reasonable to call
11 losses in a row good. But 40-60% of victories are good by
common sense and occures in most entertainment games. So, your
community uses the term Good very odd way and tries to prove
that i follow to their inadequate term. If they used a Good with
capital G and say that good means as i described with the 11-
example then i wouldn't argue anything. I would say, yes i am
not Good with capital G.
I don't think that someone has to prove to others how Good/good
they are. It is most times feeding sick ego and spreading
stats-racism where people try to win debates with the argument
of stats or p-enis size saying at the end of the loosing debate
that you are nog Good/Big. such method of proof is not adequate.
stats are not an adequate proof method. And we agreed with that
in another topic as i remember where we agreed that Stats Don't
Matter.
So, if stats don't matter then why and how should anybody prove
that someones stats matter or that they are good or bad?
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg442#msg442
date=1663797164]
[list][li]You call them racist or label their argument as being
inadequate[/li][/list]
[/quote]
True. I agree that it is reasonable to label their argument
inadequate because the reasons you gave in the Stats Don't
Matter debate. So, even you find reasonable to react like me.
And racism is always inadequate, and i have explained many ways
that stats-racism and ship-racism is totally adequate terms but
you may like to use the term Toxic which i don't use. Isn't it
toxic if someone comes to say to you that you are bad? Of course
it is. So, which reaction do you suggest here then?
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg442#msg442
date=1663797164]
[list][li]You persist in being bad by not listening to better
players[/li]
[/list]
[/quote]
I already debunked your lsitening argument. Your community has
an illusion that listening some kind of smarter people makes
others smarter and gives better results. Do you want me to
repeat the proof that your illusion is wrong? We can make a
separate topic for that later. Can you give examples posts from
the official Wows forum where someone educates and the other one
replys "thanks, i understand now" and next days his stats went
up? I haven't seen such example and haven't seen anything worth
to listen from your posts here and from official forum daily
posts. But in this forum you have tactics etc. So, i suggest you
agree that your lsitening advice is wrong. Maybe you think that
lsitening you here now makes someone more successful later?
You say that i persist to be Bad and not Good. I explained above
that your term of Good is inadequate and also your term Bad is
too. By general definition i have done 70% WR sessions and that
is called fine or good in general terms. If you want to insist
that in your community the term means that one must show longer
period stats at 55 then do so and explain why you have such
weird definitions. By general definition in entertainment 40-60%
WR is already good but why i sohuld want to stay on your
inadequate 55? Your believe in your racism and in your 55, i
don't, you suffer, i don't, so why do you try to convince me
that i don't follow your inadequate labels? I have posted
replays where i swim to A1 square as the team asks and make 0
damage and get reported- does such examples show that i want to
really become 55/Good? No, and i don't really feel any need to
become any 55.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg442#msg442
date=1663797164]
See ? Simple. It has nothing to do with faith. You want an
exemple of this? look in a mirror you are the perfect exemple of
this.
[/quote]
You say now that there is nothing to do with faith but you are
wrong because your statement contained the word "believing". Do
you agree? Clearly you express that a person must lsiten some
other players and have faith in their words etc. So ,why do you
say the opposite now?
Can you explain what do you mean by the mirror example? Is it
some kind of personal level method again? Because mirror doesn't
show any skills, it doesn't show IQ and your stats. So ,why to
look there and wht is the goal to see there?
#Post#: 474--------------------------------------------------
Re: interview 5
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 10:58 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=73.msg462#msg462
date=1663802319]
You haven't seen the wows subreddit then. There is a lot of
question about how to grind credits faster. also i never said
anything about calling people racial slogan, pretty weird you
bring it up
[/quote]
Can you provide proof that wows official forum and your named
forum has lot of grinding questions among other questions? I
looked into the official forum and there the picture debunks
your statement.
Do you agree that my 3 points and your 3 points above are al
ladequate and we can conclude from them that stats don't matter.
There is no need to start to define what mattering exactly
means, you understand that generally they are not important and
don't have any place in argumentations. Do you agree tha twe
both agreed with 3-points on that and we close that debate as
agreed-agreed?
Your 2nd topic seem to be be a detail that says how battle XP is
connected to other things. Yes, things are connected in life but
are still considered as irrelevant details or not exact
causes/reasons. You statement seems to be like this:
"Wows community wants to have betetr battle XP to get more
ships, and that why acts toxicly".
Do you agree that this is your 2nd and last debate topic and we
can close the first topic with agreed-agreed status?
Your 2nd topic can be debunked so that peopel care about Randoms
WR as we deescribe and all their behaviour and opinions talk
msotly about Randoms WR which they call also Stats. They don't
mention XP and ships which are long way conencted to ship
quantity etc. And that explanation debunks your opinion. Do you
want such 2nd topic or we can chose one last different one. you
won't be able to talk later because you have too much
inadequancy. You lose all arguments and use persona llevel
attacks etc, ignores questions, derailing, offtopic, etc. You
can have 1 last debate topic i nnext days and then i isolate you
into your personal topic somehow, and maybe even i sometimes
reply to you there.
#Post#: 475--------------------------------------------------
Re: interview 5
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 11:30 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=73.msg450#msg450
date=1663799567]
Proof for your claim : nada. And you do no effort to counter
this reasoning. You have no argument against it you are just
saying "you are wrong"
[/quote]
That is not true. As you see i provided there an explanation
that the "majority looks so". That is not very strong argument
but it is a reasonable argument and you can't expect any
scientific proofing method in such topics. For example you said
that you nkow what is in my mind but you didn't provide much
arguments as i remember. So, my explanation is fine. You can say
"look into the official forum and see that most hate WG" or
"look into forum and see that peopel are obsessed with Randoms
WR and not XP". So, you are not right if you say that i don't
provide any proof. If you can show where i missed any of your
questions then i go and provide answer. I can list about you
long listing of non-professional methods including that you
haven't answered to all my arguments and questions. Because your
community has so many inadequate behaviours then we isolate you
into your one personal interview topic and declare the interview
completed. If you there want to do additional debates then we
can trade that first you obey to adequate methods and admit that
you lost previous debates and then i agree to do here 2nd/3rd
debate with you. It doesn't look like banning but is isolating
and the explanations are very clear. All previous interviews
anded with the community member to run away but you don't have
to run away you can stay in your topic and write there
everything opposute to my Wikipedia if you wish, i won't mind.
But i label you as inadequate in away and therefore i won't
react to your opinions in that topic. If someone comes to talk
to you in that topic then i don't mind. In the interview topics
we can keep inadequate things but elsewhere it is against rules
and specially i nthe wikipedia topics. do you think that it is
professional if wikipedia contains your comunity personal
attacks and offtopical opinions? No, that would be bad for the
community.
#Post#: 481--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Typical brainwashed defeated believes
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 1:43 pm
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=14.msg460#msg460
date=1663801853]
People say this from their personal experience : they have more
success using 12km rather than 20km torpedoes on shima.
[/quote]
Your opinion differs from mine here but we can't convince very
easily whose opinion is mor close to the truth.
Your opinion about people is different than mine.
Your opinion is that people say things based on their
experience.
I don't have such opinion because folowing reasons. Many 12-km
supporters talk come in battles from primitive ship holders and
not DDs. So, i doubt that they have much experience with DDs at
all and doesn't understand much about torpedo attribues and DD
roles at all. And their opinion originates therefore from
elsewhere than their experience. In game chat people say often
things that are popular to say and popular in forum to say and
12-km opinion is visible from tiem to time. and they have just
copied that opinion from others. It is obvious that they
wouldn't dare to say anything that is not popular, so express
their community belonging as the community opinion about DD
torpedo things. The community does not spread the opinion that
20 km torps are better so they are afraid to come out with such
opinion. That's why they jsut repeat all together that 12 km
torpedo is better and many of them express it typically toxic
way that is common for the community. So, they attack those who
don't believe community opinions. And partially show that they
have the so called knowledge/opinion and look smart.
I personally haven't seen much success with 12 km torps from
other players.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=14.msg460#msg460
date=1663801853]
Objectively, 12km torpedoes have more advantages than the 20km
:[list]
[li]they are stealthier, therefor a target will have more
difficulty to dodge[/li]
[li]they are faster, therefor a target will have harder time to
dodge[/li]
[li]they do slightly more damage[/li]
[/list]
[/quote]
It something has 1 big advantage and the other 3 minor
advantages then the math 1 is less than 3 doesn't make the first
one worse because all 4 advantages have different weight. 1 big
can be msot times better than 3 or 5 small ones in total.
The advantages you named are useful in smaller maps which has
lot of rocks. But in Rankeds and in Randoms most maps have lot
of water for 20 km torps and not much rocks and lot of 12-km
radar cruisers. That makes obviously 12km range better in
general.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=14.msg460#msg460
date=1663801853]
But if you have more success using 20km torpedoes on shima,
continue to use the 20km torpedoes on shima, that's what makes
you win, and winning is good
[/quote]
At the end you give a suggestion to someone which torps he
should use and the suggestion is not based on listening someone
smart and not lsitening educational tutorial and not providing
any proofs. First comment is, that nobody asked you what is your
suggestion. The topic title talks about brainwashed things and
those things have no explanations/proofs just like your
suggestion here. Why should anybody listen to such suggestions.
And why people have illusions that there are many golden
suggestions and knowledge in the game?
#Post#: 482--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Typical brainwashed defeated believes
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 2:09 pm
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=14.msg459#msg459
date=1663801634]
You do not understand how reporting works do you ?
[/quote]
You don't understand that your post is inadequate, do you?
If you are unable to explain why your post is inadequate then
why to answer to you here. We isolate you to your one topic and
teach you what is adequate and what not. When you came to this
foru mthen you were asked to be adequate and over your wows
community but i have been noting your mistakes so many times by
now.
Your question assumes soemthing and doesn't provide any
explanation why it assumes so. Is offtopical or called Derailing
and spam in your community language.
You are again wrong with your assumption/opinion but i don't
give you the explanation/proof because:
1) you are not adequate.
2) one doesn't have to prove what thoughts he has and what his
senses sense. I explained that idea in the official forum with a
oven chicken recipe.
#Post#: 483--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Typical brainwashed defeated believes
By: SpeedrunBanAny% Date: September 22, 2022, 4:04 pm
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[quote author=wows link=topic=14.msg468#msg468 date=1663845224]
In the beginning of the topic is mentioned food companies and
one popular average food company is Subway and their revenue is
10x bigger than WG's. And that example proves my 1st post ideas.
If you remove expenses from WG's sales then it would still be
some hundreds of millions per year which is big money for you if
we stay on your personal level and context of as you typically
are. But if we compare adequately that number to sandwich
companies as I described then it is not so profitable business
type.
[/quote]
It doesn't matter who is making the bigger profit. The point is
that wargaming is a profitable buisness
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