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#Post#: 406--------------------------------------------------
Re: Truth: Wows community are afraid of me
By: SpeedrunBanAny% Date: September 20, 2022, 7:36 pm
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The reason you got banned from the official forum are the
following :
- spaming a lot of messages
- derailing topics
People are certainly not afraid of you. At first they are
entertained then they become annoyed by your spam and derailing
#Post#: 409--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Read this first, and say Hello here
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 4:16 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=2.msg404#msg404
date=1663717080]
Hello, I'm very bored atm and made an account here to disturb
your safe space
I will not insult people and will only argue using facts and
arguments
If I get banned, it is proof that I won the argument and that
the admin had no choice but to ban me to silence me to claim he
won any debate
[/quote]
We have somewhere forum Rules topic and there you can find some
sugegstions. First obviously you get explanations if you act not
acceptable way and banning reason is always clear and proved
adequately. In the official Wows forum and in the game there are
plenty of examples where peopel don't know why they get banned.
Here this is not possible because we follow adequate methods and
so. So, there is no need to be worried about banns and you can
create a new account if you get banned. The porpose of the forum
is to serve others and if you put that in danger then it is
batter to ban you. For example if you start to sell drugs on
this web site then this will result the forum to be closed and
peopel lose the benefits of this place. you personally may not
feel any benefits from this place but others would feel and
those can be spiritual benefits, or, social benefits, or game
tactics knowledge, etc. If you act so that they won't get all
that then it is reasonable to explain you and ban you.
Your last conclusion is not right but we can talk about it in
another topic. The quick response is that if you say that 2+2 is
5 and i ban you then your sentence says that you won the
argument of 2+2 and it really is 5 because i banned you. No,
banning doesn't affect if 2+2=5 is wrong or right. Okay? But
let's talk about it in naother topic. I suggest for you a
separate topic called interview 5 and there is much cleaner to
dialogue all arguments one by one from 2+2 argument to banning
argument.
#Post#: 410--------------------------------------------------
interview 5
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 4:18 am
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A dedicated topic for that user:
HTML https://wows.createaforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=20
We can do a debate here and no need to do it in so many
different topics.
Can we take the "stats matter" statement as the main first topic
for the debate?
--
[quote]
- stats matter, and don't care about your feelings
[/quote]
Can you provide an explanation how stats matter?
You say that you don't care about someone's feelings. But that
is irrelevant what you care or not. I suggest that stats
statemnt to be our interview topic and let's stay in this topic
here and no need to visit the official Stats topic.
So, be adequate and provide your arguments and i provide
counter-arguments. I can copy-paste some arguments to you here
from other topics but i can reinvent them too. Let's start by
your arguments first. I can help you with some arguments.
Example:
1. Stats matter because they show the knowledge and skills.
Do you agree with such 1st argument or you want to rephrase it?
Continue with all arguments and i debunk them and provide
counter-arguments.
There doesn't have to be any prize for the winner or any
penalty. It is just 1 topic/argumentation from many and if you
lose it then you can win next and so on. No need to worry about
losing and no need to be greedy about prizes. In the first
interviews the prize was to get into my clan. But this time i
believe the prize is just that you can practice argumentation
and see something rare in your community- an opposite opinions.
It is like debating in islamic countries about pork- one must be
very lucky to get such exotic debation topic there. So, i think
you get something here and we thank you already ahead too.
#Post#: 411--------------------------------------------------
Re: interview 5
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 4:31 am
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Can we agree that you don't title people here?
Your account has a title "bot". There is no need to title
anybody as bots, not even yourself.
The term Bot is closely related to Wows community racism.
Secondly, i have explained somewhere that the term Bot comes
from the term Robot and is always smarter than a human. Both
chess and Wows bots perform better than humans- you just have to
change it settings to Advanced and it beats every human. Other
nicknames for robots are AI, and some more. So, it is an honor
to be a bot, but in Wows commnuity it is just a term to express
racial attitudes. I suggest to avoid titles and if you really
want to title then prove it. for exampel if you call someone an
idiot then can you prove with medical methods that one has
idiot's diagnose? Can you prove that someone is robot/bot? If
you can't then why do you use such title. Can we agree that we
don't use titles?
I call people as racist and brainwashed and i provide evidence
that they really are. But i don't call anybody idiots etc what
Wows community does all the time. If you are in this forum then
can you behave above wows offocial forum community? Don't use
titles, not even the racist bot title.
#Post#: 415--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: stats
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 5:59 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg397#msg397
date=1663713140]
Yes, The WOWS cummunity does value the "Random battle" stat
more, 2 reasons for it
[/quote]
You say that the community values something, it believes
something has an important value. I agree with that and the main
evidence is that you can see stats-racism everywhere i nthe
community. But i didn't talk above about what is important for
the community. This topic talks about a term and other topics
should talk about what community does regarding that term. If
the community values stats then that should be another topic. My
short response to that sub-topic is that i agree with that and i
gave an evidence for that. So, we agree at least in one opinion
but looks like we disagree in how to give an evidence for that
opinion. My proving method is totally different than yours. It
is like we both believe that fruits are important in human's
menu but we give totally different reasons why we both think
they are important. You might mention that fruits are impotant
because they grow in your garden and i give a proof by saying
that they contain water that humans need- 2 totally different
reasons but the same opinion.
You say that the community values one thing more than another
thing. Again, my short response to that sub-topic is that it
should be another topic what the community values more. The new
topic should prove that the community really values one thing
more than another thing and the then judge if it is reasonable
to value one thing over another. For example, if it comes out
that in India people vlaue more humans caste level rather than
education then we can judge that indus are racist and have wrong
values. But that shold be another topic what Wows community
values more and is it racist and misleading or not. This topic
here just defines the term.
So, we both agree that stats are important for the community and
if one doupts in it then let him just open the official forum or
look game chat.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg397#msg397
date=1663713140]
Yes, The WOWS cummunity does value the "Random battle" stat
more, 2 reasons for it
1. Random battle are the main game mode, therefor they are more
likely to judge you on it
2. Bringing up Ranked stats would be a compelling argument if
you weren't actually WORSE in ranked than you are in randoms
[/quote]
Your 2 points try to prove why Randoms' stats are more important
for the community. I agree that Randoms stats are more important
and the proof/explanation is in the first post and looks like
this:
[quote]
In Wows players open the stats web page Wows-numbers, and see by
default the Section/Tab "Random battles" selected and not
"Ranked Battles" selevted and not "All battles" selected.
[/quote]
That explanation differs from your explanation with points 1-2.
First, do you understand and agree with my explanation?
I can add to my explanation additionally that partially it is
laziness, ignorance and other such words why people just look
the defaultly opened Randoms tab's WR. They are too lazy to open
other tabs. So, my explanation is that Randoms stats are valued
because they open on the stats-page imemdiately by default and
are shown by Mods by default. There is no consideration or
reasoning involved, the community just takes the number that
open up and ends any futher check under other tabs or whatever.
If mods and the stats-page would open by default All-tab or
Rankeds-tab then people whould use those numbers. And there is
nothing about valueing anything. This is my explanation and in
many debates i saw clearly that people don't see any difference
between stats of different game types.
Let's look now your points 1-2 and i explai nwhy i don't see
they to be correct ones.
Point number 2 seems to say that the community does something to
everyone because one John has something in particular. Like, the
islamic community doesn't like pork because John is fat and eats
pork. Your point 2 sounds also like "Wows community would be
adequate if John weren't fat". The 2nd point sounds also that
the Wows community has shamanic prediction abilities and can
predict what stats someone has. Do you understand that the whole
2nd point is inadequate after my examples with john and pork?
Your 2nd point doesn't seem to be a reason why Wows community
always acts certain way because someone's particular's thing
cannot be a reason why the community acts to everybody certain
way. My stats and skin color are not a valid reason why Wows
community values something over something else. Do you agree?
So, with point 2 you just prove that Wows community is
inadequate and to be adequate it should use Rankeds stats when
talking about Rankeds. Your point 2 tried to prove why the
community vlaues Rndoms stats more than Rankeds with my example
data and failed in the explanation. But my explanation above
doesn't fail.
Point 1 seems to say that Randoms are more popular and therefore
people's minds have automatically expectation that all talks are
about Randoms.
If you were right then that proves that the community is very
inadequate because there are clearly other battle types in the
game and Rankeds are played every day by thousands too which is
a big enough number. Having such mindset that assumes that
others talk about Randoms is very naive. In my most debates i
was clearly in the Rankeds chat and people talked still about
Randoms stats instead of the Rankeds stats.
Your point 1 tried to prove why the community vlaues Rndoms
stats more than Rankeds by saying that Randoms are more popular.
That means that the community values popular things and the
community assumes that everyone wants to be popular, even
Rankeds players, even those who clearly talk in the non-Randoms
context, etc. As i already said, one must be very naive if to
use Randoms data in Rankeds data, because both are different
tools. And why to think that one statistics is somehow better
and more important than other statistical number? All statistics
in Rankeds section and Randoms section are different separate
tools which you use in different context and not prefer one
popular stats over another. Prefering popular stats over the
accurate stats is not adequate. It is like talking about an
average income in countrysides today using previous years cities
data because city life is more popular and most people live in
the cities.
So, if your point 1 is true then you have proved that the wows
community is inadequate, same for the other point. But i repeat
here like for the other point: your point 1 does not convince
why the community is so inadeuate and values inadequately.
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Re: Re: Term: stats
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 6:48 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg397#msg397
date=1663713140]
[quote]In racist terms Stats are like skin color, university
grades, breasts size, indian human caste level, etc.[/quote]
Comparing stats with actual social issues is disgusting, you
should be ashamed of yourself. Someone doesn't get to choose
their skin color or gender. You do actively choose to stay bad
at the game tho
[/quote]
You say an opinion that comparing some things is bad. People do
comparision al lthe time and this is the natural activity of
human mind. Even your sentence here compared things: you
compared things that one can change and chosoe with things that
one can't. Why do you think that you and humankind are bad when
they compare? I think you are wrong about humankind and i
provided the proof why.
There is nothing special that media talks often about modern
slavery, racism and other things and compares those and other
things. If your background is not democratic then you are
usually afraid to talk and compare. Example is North Korea where
people are silent and tel lto each other similarly like you did:
you should be ashamed to talk about america in good words! In
developed countries people talk and compare everything. In Wows
you get quickly silenced as we all know if you dare to say a not
popular opinion. The silencing starts like you did here now
saying that someone should be ashamed etc. In this forum we are
above North Korea and Wows community, so we are not here
ashamed. Also western media and people are not ashamed. Do you
agree?
Can you explain how one do actively choose to stay bad at the
game? How such choice happens? Do you mean that a human has in
his mind actively a voice saying: "i don't want to become good
in entertainment games, never" and the result is that the person
never becomes good in an entertainment game? Or how do you mean?
Can you explain? This is a sub-topic again and we might create a
separate topic later with title: "Debunked: in Wows you shose if
to be good or bad".
You say that skin color is a racial example which cannot be
changed. But it doesn't matter if one can change a racial aspect
or not because racial judgement is still racial no matter if the
racist thing is something one can change or not. You can invent
other examples beside skin color, university stats, money, car,
wife, etc. If peopel judge you based on those values then they
are racist no matter if you can change those things or not. Mild
racism is when you jsut talk in style that "so many moneyless
trash people lately on our street", but beside milder form there
are more extreme forms when you have an argument with someone
and you seem to lose and then you change the topic to a racial
issue like "shut up, you moneyless rat". In Wows stats-racism is
very common and we describe it in the Racism topic. Because the
community denies everything then comparisions are very well
place to enlight them. For example, the above sentences with
examples of money-racism are very illustrative and explanatory.
The reason why you are against such comparisions is that
brainwashed mind defends itself this way, it tries to silence
the community-outsider many ways but very often like you did
suggesting that someone should become ashamed and later hopefuly
silent.
In conclusion, do you agree that you were wrong with your
comparision opinion?
#Post#: 417--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: stats
By: SpeedrunBanAny% Date: September 21, 2022, 7:08 am
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[quote]Can you explain how one do actively choose to stay bad at
the game? How such choice happens? Do you mean that a human has
in his mind actively a voice saying: "i don't want to become
good in entertainment games, never" and the result is that the
person never becomes good in an entertainment game? Or how do
you mean? Can you explain? This is a sub-topic again and we
might create a separate topic later with title: "Debunked: in
Wows you shose if to be good or bad".[/quote]
You certainly do not show any intent of getting better at the
game and dismiss people better than you as being racist.
You believe to be good at the game solely because you can reach
gold rank 1. However your ranked win rate is 42% both overall
and recently. You obviously get lucky streaks to achieve rank 1
gold with 42% win rate
By believing to be good and dismissing anyone prooving you wrong
by calling them racist, you are refusing to learn from better
player and actively choosing to stay bad
#Post#: 418--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Read this first, and say Hello here
By: SpeedrunBanAny% Date: September 21, 2022, 7:09 am
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We'll quickly see who is saying "2+2=4" (who is telling the
truth) (spoiler : it's not you but i'll demonstrate in the
various little echo chambers you built here)
#Post#: 419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Re: Term: stats
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 7:12 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=70.msg417#msg417
date=1663762108]
[quote]Can you explain how one do actively choose to stay bad at
the game? How such choice happens? Do you mean that a human has
in his mind actively a voice saying: "i don't want to become
good in entertainment games, never" and the result is that the
person never becomes good in an entertainment game? Or how do
you mean? Can you explain? This is a sub-topic again and we
might create a separate topic later with title: "Debunked: in
Wows you shose if to be good or bad".[/quote]
You certainly do not show any intent of getting better at the
game and dismiss people better than you as being racist.
You believe to be good at the game solely because you can reach
gold rank 1. However your ranked win rate is 42% both overall
and recently. You obviously get lucky streaks to achieve rank 1
gold with 42% win rate
By blieving to be good and dismissing anyone prooving you wrong
by calling them racist, you are refusing to learn from better
player and actively choosing to stay bad
[/quote]
Can you show were in your text answered to my question?
The question was: Can you explain how one do actively choose to
stay bad at the game?
If you fail to show were was your adequate answer then do you
agree that you and wows community are not adequate? The proof is
just that you couldn't answer. Posting a response is not an
adequate answer if it ignores the question. Secondly, your
response contains irrelevant racist opinions which we can go
over in another topic.
Do you agree that you are inadequate as we proved? Or, show were
is your answer?
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Re: Re: Read this first, and say Hello here
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 7:17 am
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=2.msg418#msg418
date=1663762181]
We'll quickly see who is saying "2+2=4" (who is telling the
truth) (spoiler : it's not you but i'll demonstrate in the
various little echo chambers you built here)
[/quote]
It doesn't matter Who and somewhere in spiritual talks i nthis
forum we explain that the word Who is always immature.
My example about 2+2 didn't serve any goal of naming anyone, it
was just an illustrative example to show the idea.
Going on the personal level is not an adequate method but a
symptom for Wows community and for the proof we can open some
random topics in the official forum or look your posts in this
forum and your account signature and compare to mine. We can do
that in your personal topic, jsut copypaste that 2+2 Quote from
here to there as your 2nd debate topic and we can start there
but 1st we end the first topic, it seems to be soon ending
there.
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