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#Post#: 407--------------------------------------------------
Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 4:03 am
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[quote]
Jackal90, Posted September 6
man WG needs to close this due to his toxic behavior ingame and
that he flusters every argument wiht "I debunked everything from
the wows community".
This dude spreads false information and hatred with no knowledge
at all.
I clearly see the Dunning-Kruger effect at work here.
He thinks of him of something special and clearly above everyone
else with his forum. Everyone can make something like that and
only because oyu are something at your forum doesnt mean anyone
would like to take part who you can control.
I had to endure his speeches 2 times today and let me tell you
.. he only focuses on chatting and spreading lies instead of
playing.
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 5:03 am
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Today is 21/09 and you started an interview on September 6 using
cross-forum debating format.
How would you comment such (21-6=15 days) delay in my response?
I can give my interpretation for the delay and then i would
listen what others provide for the reason of the delay.
I don't visit official Wows forum so often and not the clan
topic there and my forum account cannot post responses there. If
you can't see all that from that topic then it is the problem of
you or the forum. It is not my mistake that you plan to start a
dialogue there to me and don't understand that there won't be
any dialogue possible there. So, either you and/or the forum
itself has made a msitake, but i haven't done nay msitakes.
I have explained somewhere the reasons why i don't do
cross-forum debates. I will copy-paste the reasons here later.
But let's assume that you were not aware why cross-forum
dialogue is not acceptable.
In such situation my common response is that:
1. Wows community and you are afraid of me. You have fear to
come to this forum to explain your opinions.
2. Wows community and you don't have experience in debates and
the official forum is full of inadequate methods. And one of
which is just tweeting something and then run away. That is what
your post aimed, you didn't have a goal to start a dialogue.
You can provide counter-opinions for points 1-2 and explain why
you prefered to tweet in a cross-forum format.
#Post#: 413--------------------------------------------------
Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 5:05 am
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From Interview 1 we explained why cross-forum debating format is
bad:
[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg142#msg142 date=1656959829]
P1. You continue to do crossforum dialogue which is a bigger
problem than any other you adress me. Because it is very
difficult to copy paste text from oen to another and etc. That
lead to some my posts here to disappear for exaple and i
mentioned. That is much bigger hassle/problem than any other
"problem" you adress me. Yes or no?
P2. It is a non-professional debating method that you make
appearance that what you say there has no replies and therefore
the topic owner agrees with all you write there. That is not
considered an adequate method. You could apply to some country's
prison service where a victim is put too to such situation where
he cannot give an answer or says exactly as was expected so that
the final protocol looks satisfying. You are building a similar
protocol there and that is not an adequate method.
P3. You refuse there to obey to our clan's adequate rules and we
proved that you failed in those already. For example, links are
not allowed, and you failed many times with them. We proved that
your links and all other things were inadequate. Before starting
any talk/interview you must agree with our rules. Our rules
don't allow links etc. But you continue to violate rules still.
P4. Your forum is not adequate there. For example it don't
explain when it closes topics or gives bans and the rules are
not adequate either. Therefore your activity in that thread may
lead to closing that topic and that results that many people
might lose a chance to achieve something. You close a door for
them. In older times there was a rule by an enlightened one who
said that not only stealing is prohibited but also obstruction
which leads to the situation where one loses a potential chance.
Do you understand those 4 points and understand that those al
ltogether are a bigger problem than anything that you address to
others?
We proved that you are not adequate. There is no need to deny it
i can list it again.
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 12:05 pm
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First, why are you afraid of me? Come and do a dialogue here.
Your post contain a Ranked Gold battle results where you played
a cruiser and got TOP 1 and i played a DD and got TOP 6. You had
rank 7 and i had rank 5 which are equal number and mean that we
have equal amount of skills. If it is difficult to comprehend
why 7 and 5 are equal and we have equal Gold League skills then
come and ask and i explain. I have explained it earier many
times somewhere. So, on your screenshot we have equal skills no
matter which skin color you have and no matter if your
university stats are better than mine. Do you agree? If you
disagree then why didn't you have a rank 1? If you have more
skills than me then why don't you write more tutorials than me
into your clan's forum? If you agree that CRs are more primitive
ships and require less skills than DDs then why don't you try
next time to play with an advanced ship type like me that
requires more skills than cruisers. I don't use any mods but if
you believe mods like i see i nthe picture then that requires
even less skills from you.
Secondly, why don't you provide a replay? I don't remember
anything fro mthat replay. I guess maybe you just did something
that i call a demoralization of the team. For example you said
in the beginning of the battle to your tea mthat one player is
in your colored list and added that he is troll etc- that lowers
the other players morale. Any negative talks about CVss/Subs
also lowers and causes the team more likely to lose. I have
developed 3 playing methods and the 3rd one has a rule that if
someone lowers the team's morale then that should be interpreted
as asking torps from behind. So, probably i torped you from
behind and asked if you enjoy it and you get insulted and ran to
report. I jsut did what is good for the team with my new playing
package/style, i never report, i never lower morale, colored
lsits are prohibited. So, i doubt that i did anything bad for
the team, i just interpreted your morale-slogans as request for
torps. Once you learn that lowering morale is very bad for the
team you don't do it anymore and you win more often and get even
a better rank than me with even advanced ship types.
Replay would be more adequate than egoic picture.
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 12:10 pm
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[quote author=wows link=topic=71.msg407#msg407 date=1663750987]
man WG needs to close this due to his toxic behavior ingame and
that he flusters every argument wiht "I debunked everything from
the wows community".
[/quote]
Who are you talking to? to me? I don't feel that you talk to me.
come here, write here.
Why WG needs to do anything? You think that WG should remove
Subs and close accounts and many things, but i don't think so.
WG doesn't have to do what your community suggests. and i have
provided proofs why it doesn't.
You seem to be upset that i have debunked all your community
opinions. But this is the truth. Even right now i debunking your
opinions. Why not to be like me that be adequate and come debunk
my arguments?
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 21, 2022, 12:17 pm
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[quote author=wows link=topic=71.msg407#msg407 date=1663750987]
This dude spreads false information and hatred with no knowledge
at all.
I clearly see the Dunning-Kruger effect at work here.
He thinks of him of something special and clearly above everyone
else with his forum. Everyone can make something like that and
only because oyu are something at your forum doesnt mean anyone
would like to take part who you can control.
I had to endure his speeches 2 times today and let me tell you
.. he only focuses on chatting and spreading lies instead of
playing.
[/quote]
You say that you see things, like Dunning-Kruger. I see that all
people have it, including you, and it is a healthy thing. You
mention that term because in your community it is common to
title people as idiots etc and your ego feels that you are
smarter, using special german-sounding terms. Isn't it so? Can
you debate where you see your Kruger in me? Give a picture where
i estimate my knowlede too hire etc. I don't remember that i
have said that i am the smartest etc, but i know that in racist
wows community people believe that stats equals skills and who
have more stats are more right in debates. Because i have low
stats then by the racist community i should be silent and
depressed and if i dare tosay something then you title that i
have Kruger syndrom and all i say is wrong because i have low
stats. This is how it looks to me when your racist community
titles people as Krugers, idiots, and silences them other ways.
I agree partially with you when you think that my forum here is
special. Yes, how else would you call it, because it is the
opposite of the wows community offocial forum. Here you have to
be adequate, in Wows official you don't and most times are not.
Like in your post we mentioned already many inadequate aspect
starting from an inadequate picture. Do you suggest me to
believe that this forum here is exactly the same like inadequate
wows official forum? I don't see that it is the same. So, i
beleive it is special as you say. Maybe you have again racist
subconcious urge to silence me here and this forum and feel
insecure that this forum is special and adequate? Can you
explain why this makes pain to you that we have here another
forum that is radically different than the monopolistic
inadequate one?
Als oyou say that anyone can make such forum here? Go and
create, i don't care, why you say that to me? Would i go to your
forum later? No, because it wouldn't be an adequate forum ,it
would be a faschist forum, ins't it? So, don't suffer about this
forum. And you are welcomed to this forum if you manage to be
adequate. come and prove that your community has at least 1
opinion right. Sometimes i agree partially with your community
by the way. So, don't suffer. But don't also be in an illusions
that all i say is wrong. no, it is not wrong, it is adequate and
the truth. You jsut don't like the truth.
Can you say which lies i spread? Is it a lie that your community
is racist? If it is then can you prove that it is not racist?
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Re: Interview 3
By: SpeedrunBanAny% Date: September 21, 2022, 5:26 pm
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[quote author=wows link=topic=71.msg437#msg437 date=1663779906]
[quote]
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[/quote]
First, why are you afraid of me? Come and do a dialogue here.
Your post contain a Ranked Gold battle results where you played
a cruiser and got TOP 1 and i played a DD and got TOP 6. You had
rank 7 and i had rank 5 which are equal number and mean that we
have equal amount of skills. If it is difficult to comprehend
why 7 and 5 are equal and we have equal Gold League skills then
come and ask and i explain. I have explained it earier many
times somewhere. So, on your screenshot we have equal skills no
matter which skin color you have and no matter if your
university stats are better than mine. Do you agree? If you
disagree then why didn't you have a rank 1? If you have more
skills than me then why don't you write more tutorials than me
into your clan's forum? If you agree that CRs are more primitive
ships and require less skills than DDs then why don't you try
next time to play with an advanced ship type like me that
requires more skills than cruisers. I don't use any mods but if
you believe mods like i see i nthe picture then that requires
even less skills from you.
Secondly, why don't you provide a replay? I don't remember
anything fro mthat replay. I guess maybe you just did something
that i call a demoralization of the team. For example you said
in the beginning of the battle to your tea mthat one player is
in your colored list and added that he is troll etc- that lowers
the other players morale. Any negative talks about CVss/Subs
also lowers and causes the team more likely to lose. I have
developed 3 playing methods and the 3rd one has a rule that if
someone lowers the team's morale then that should be interpreted
as asking torps from behind. So, probably i torped you from
behind and asked if you enjoy it and you get insulted and ran to
report. I jsut did what is good for the team with my new playing
package/style, i never report, i never lower morale, colored
lsits are prohibited. So, i doubt that i did anything bad for
the team, i just interpreted your morale-slogans as request for
torps. Once you learn that lowering morale is very bad for the
team you don't do it anymore and you win more often and get even
a better rank than me with even advanced ship types.
Replay would be more adequate than egoic picture.
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Fastmotion, in this post :
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/158313-batja-our-hive-called-batja/?do=findComment&comment=4258231<br
/>he has 5 times more EXP than you which means he was 5 times mo
re
valued than you. Furthermore, 437 base xp on a win is a pathetic
result. You are far from displaying equal skill to the top 1
player and from his stats (
HTML https://wows-numbers.com/player/552614592,DirtyRabbit_sniper/
),
you are far from possessing an equal amount of skill by any
metric
People are not talking with you because you got banned and they
know they will just lose their time talking to you as you are
essentially a brick wall that does not listen to anything people
say
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 12:37 pm
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[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=71.msg448#msg448
date=1663799219]
Fastmotion, in this post :
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/158313-batja-our-hive-called-batja/?do=findComment&comment=4258231<br
/>
he has 5 times more EXP than you which means he was 5 times more
valued than you.
[/quote]
Maybe i mixed posts and links and the reason is that cross-forum
dialogue is not adequate.
You say that someone TOP 1 had 5 time more experience in one
battle than me as a TOP 6 player.
First, do you think that his debating topic will be about 1
battle and about other opinions which you have? No, this topic
is his and he choses the debate topics here, and you have your
own topic where you can do a debate. He posts into our clan's
recruitment topic his racial/toxic offtopical opinions and do
you consider that adequate? No, it is not. So, i don't hijack
topics and stay always i ntopic but in wows official forum the
whoel community derails and spam etc al lthe time. Why not to
admit that with even that current example here? But the
community likes to say that i derail and am inadequate. Prove
that i am, i have proved all my opinions well and debunked all
Wows community opininos.
So, there is no need for your opinion Speed. He has his own
opinions in his interview post and we talk about those and not
about your opinions. does it sound adequate? I move all your
inadequate posts to your personal interview-topic soon. nut i
have many times asked you to be adequate but you still fail in
that, why?
There is no need to count experience if a ship swims to A1 as
the team asks or if he sends torps into an alley because his
tect is interpreted as a request for torps, etc. Why should you
count in such battles XP, or credits, etc? Secondly, it is many
times explained that XP doesn't take into acocunt some things
like, internet,tactics, cheater mods, luck, etc. So, who knows
what XP means if you can't look the replay.
Then you say that someone was more vlaued than me. Valued by
who? By the results calculator? But i explained that the results
calculator can be inadequate and vlaue someones effort with not
right XP amount. We don't have to believe that a screenshot
represents a battle that was valued by the calculator well. If
you mean that some people value his result then can you show
those peopel and we can do an interview them. Maybe it comes out
that they support racism plus cheater mods and have sadistic
mind and those may value different things compared to mentally
stable people.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=71.msg448#msg448
date=1663799219]
Furthermore, 437 base xp on a win is a pathetic result.
[/quote]
Using your community level one should reply "you are pathetic if
you analize the number 437 in A1-battle". So, do you have maybe
theories and opinions for 447 and 448 XP too? Isn't it so, that
in your community it doesn't matter which XP you got in Rankeds
if you still keep your Good stats in Randoms? So, why to bother
for a single battle results. One can do 11 battles and no matter
which results he gets in your community that doesn't change the
racistic label Good/Bad. So, being on your community level we ca
nsay that there is no need to analize the number 437 and your
community calls such act pathetic.
[quote author=SpeedrunBanAny% link=topic=71.msg448#msg448
date=1663799219]
You are far from displaying equal skill to the top 1 player and
from his stats (
HTML https://wows-numbers.com/player/552614592,DirtyRabbit_sniper/
),
you are far from possessing an equal amount of skill by any
metric
People are not talking with you because you got banned and they
know they will just lose their time talking to you as you are
essentially a brick wall that does not listen to anything people
say
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I refuse to click your links and remind that links are generally
not allowed. Debates with you and others proved that your links
are inadequate and contain misleading information. Why i can
express myself adequately without links but your community
can't?
You say here that someone's skills are better because he has
better overall Random WR. This is typical "stats matter" racist
slogan and you would say it even if he were TOP 6 and i TOP 1 in
this battle. We have debunked in other topics such stats-racism.
And you agreed with it, why are you now telling something
opposite? Go to your interview topic and complete your stats
matter debate there. Your 3 points said there opposite that you
say here now. And i have provided plenty of adequate proof that
your Stats don't matter anything and don't measure any skills. I
have even made exams/tests and people who have high stats have
not passed those exams. Exams are adequate method, stats are
not. Why is it important who has bigger p-enis or better IQ-test
results or better stats in highschool and wows? There is no need
to tell to anyone and to me that they have more or less skills
and no need to provide inadequate methods to prove your racist
opinion. You want to measur skills? come here and i make an
exam/interview for you here.
At the end you say that people are not talking with you because
i got banned. If they know that i got banned then why they post
offtopical racism into to my clan's recruitment topics and are
scared to come here where i am not banned? Secondly, peopel talk
to me al lthe time, even right now we talk. In the official
forum i got plenty of questions. Why do you believe that people
don't talk to me and can you prove it? Thirdly, banning should
not be any reason to avoid anybody. It is again close to racism
and indian caste system etc that one avoids to talk with some
people who have a low income etc. Maybe in wows community it
really is so because it is veru racisitc but i don't think that
they know who is banned and whose not.
At the end you say that i don't listen. By that you mean that i
don't say "yes, i agree with your racism"? Why should i agree
with racism but there is no need to label that as not lsitening.
Secondly, i have proved that your community is inadequate,
racist etc, can you prove that i don't lsiten or do anything
inandequate? and explain why not listening is something
inadequate?
the tile Brick Wall given to me is just your emotional feeling
and has no proof. For example with you we agreed in a debate in
the same thing that stats don't matter. So, there is no such
things that i am against always to people. another example is
that i misread one of your statements and considered it to be
adequate intopical but i was wrong and admitted it and we agreed
that it was a personal offtopical opinion and i should next time
read better to understand it. I can give more examples where i
partially agree and that all proves that i am not the so called
brick wall. But i don't know why it matters if someone is a wall
or not? Arguments matter, not stats, not skin color, not brick
walls.
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 22, 2022, 12:53 pm
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[quote author=wows link=topic=71.msg407#msg407 date=1663750987]
man WG needs to close this due to his toxic behavior ingame
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Can you explain what is toxic and show where i was toxic? you
didn't post a replay or game chat. You can look my official
forum posting history and can you show there any toxicity from
me or any other inadequate thing? I have never seen anybody who
can show any such mistake from me. But i can show even from your
posting history and your current offtopical post that it is the
so called toxic and more. so, why it is so that you can't prove
any of your opinions but i can mines and can debunk all your
opinions? Why so, what do you think?
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Re: Interview 3
By: wows Date: September 28, 2022, 6:54 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=71.msg407#msg407 date=1663750987]
This dude spreads false information and hatred with no knowledge
at all.
[/quote]
Why do you think that i have no knowledge? Is it because of my
racial things? Like skin color, or highschool grades?
I have proved that Wows and football doesn't have much knowledge
at all. In the official forum and elsewhere in internet you
don't see any knowledge spreading either. Can you make a list of
your knowledge. It would be a list of 4-5 items. If you think
that you have more knowledge than me then come and prove it to
me here?
I don't go to your clan's topic to write that you don't have
knowledge. If you and Wows community are not afraid of me then
come to my forum and prove your standpoints. I have never seen
that your community can defend any of their popular opinions.
All debunked.
The final conclusion for you is simple: you are typical exemplar
of your community and we have debunked all your community
opininos so nothing to talk with you futher.
This interview is over.
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