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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 19, 2024, 6:08 am
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Also note that there is no possibility yet to buy a fancy camo
for the new DD. It probably takes time from developers to make
camos fit to new ships.
Note that i have already long years ago said that Wows has no
issues beside gambling and Stats Religion.
Note that current Pamba deal is not pure gambling, because you
all know how much you must pay. Gambling is if you buy a
Christmax loot box and don't know which ship you get and how
many boxes to buy.
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Re: general chat
By: wows Date: November 19, 2024, 7:04 am
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DD Pamba buyers got additionally a T7 cruiser Nueve/9 de Julio,
July 9.
That is totally fine for T7 Ops game mode, just like Vallejo is
good for T9 Ops.
It has a hydro which is not needed for Ops at all, but 15 guns
are good and needed.
It is not suitable for even Randoms, but for Ops is very
suitable. In Rankeds it waits just 1 salvo to die, in Randoms 5
salvos to take in. Short gun range requires to go closer to
enemies but that ends fatally. I suggest to it only Pair
cruisers tactics, just follow a smokey cruiser.
I am not sure if it is smart to grind in Pampa 1 month few more
21 skills captains. Not smart i guess, because 1 captain is
enough and i don't have other DDs for that nation. For Ops 10
points captain is enough.
So i won't grind anything.
Yesterday in 1 battle i killed with Pampa 3 DDs with torps. It
has so many torps that those kill DDs quite often.
I tried with Black's slowest torps Kamikaze torping tactics, and
it is very undoable with so slow torps. If the target at least
don't start to swim but stays behind a rock then it is doable.
So, keep in mind to exclude that tactics ffrom such ships.
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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 19, 2024, 10:38 am
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Wows community has a trend to talk about ship XYZ and at the
same time display a video of a ship ABC random battle that
demonstrates no opinions.
The same trend is with other community idols videos.
HTML https://www.devstrike.net/topic/5432-a-discussion-video-on-the-halland-concept/
I give some feedback to the yuotuber:
1. Use Halland for the video, not Jager. Isn't that obvious?
2. Obviously the youtuber just recently discovered words like:
concept, archeotype. And that's why he repeated those misleading
words constantly, the second reason is that those sound more
sophisticated, and he believes those make him appear more
intelligent. More appropriate word is Type. Halkand-type ships.
Or, weak torpedo ships. Something like that. Weak torpedos are
not a concept, not an idea, they are an obvious variety of
torps. You can have strong bullts and strong torps, and weak
bullets and weak torps, and then balance the other parts of the
ship, like making something reload faster or giving more health
pool. Fast reloading weak torps are an obvious balancing, you
can't make fast reloading strong torps with high speed, if you
made, then the ships speed must be balanced to very low or
something. Balanced features of all ships make obviously some
ships similar, there is no need to call them Russian DDs concept
for example, but just russian DDs, or Russian DD type ships, or
gunboats, there is no concepts there, no need for such term.
Also there is no dedicated creative agenda or plan, but just an
obvious idea to make main game elements with different possible
properties, from weak torps to strong torps and some average
torps, plus just balancing with the ship's others features.
3. I agree that current weak torpedo boats are inefficent in
Rankeds and elsewhere. The word is inefficent, or
noncompetitive, it means they just need a buff. Either increase
the torpedo damage, or make reload faster, or heal button
stronger, or better concralment, etc, buff it. Today's weak
torpedo boats just don't make your team benefit, compared to
Shima torps. In old days i remember Halland was very efficent,
nowadays rare to see.
And there is nothing to do with the weak torpedo types, it is
just to do with buffs. Mathematically it is totally fine if you
have many weak torps in quick time duraton.
4. He says that torpedo spammers suit beginners. The concept of
beginners means that skills are low, beginners fail with strong
torps similarly, and having more torps doesn't make their torps
to make more lucky damage. You can even debate and say that
ultranarrow torps fail more often than typical torps, and thus
such torps are not for beginners.
5. All kind of weapons are equally good if balanced properly.
Weapons that reload faster but make less damage per bullet are
mathematically as good as slow reloading strong bullets. They
all if balanced make per minute equal amount of damage. So, none
of them is better.
The playstyle of weak torpedo boats is different, you can't do
instant BB kill, you must do many salvos. That's all obvious and
fine. The Meta or most efficent methods in Rankeds seems to
favour nowadays generally strong torps that instakill a BB and
that makes your team instawin. But that is so nowadays, it
changes immediately if balancing and buffs are made.
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He probably discovered the Concept word from reading a ship
history etc, and now the goal of the video was to practicethat
word. No need for that term. Just say torpedo spammer shops, or
weaktorp ships, or Halland-like ships, etc. Philosophies and
spriritual teachings use the term Concept correctly, for example
the Me/You is a concept, a construct, a belief, nothing real.
He feels that some ships are inefficent. Yes they are, but
nothing to do concepts and failures. Just buffs are needed.
His own video demos a victory, so why to talk the opposite then?
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Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 19, 2024, 2:42 pm
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An example of extreme premium platoon: Ragnar+Khaba+Smolensk.
This time they suceeded. But it is still very risky platoon
combo, because no torps but only bad concealment gunboats, what
if the they get spotted and killed?
They were psotted long enough but obviously nobody shooted them,
and if someone even did then they have aiming skills.
But sometimes there are few who can aim in randoms, and in such
cases such platoon fails, a risky platoon.
2 gold members in the platoon, therefore skillful players like
me, while our team had only 1 Diamond member.
HTML https://imgur.com/bXcjFCs
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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 20, 2024, 4:34 am
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Yesterday i tried Halland in Randoms 5 times and won them all,
so even nowadays you can be victorious with it. The damage
amount is low with it, but the likelyhood to torp enemy DDs is
very high and that gives the team an edge. In Rankeds it is very
difficult with it, and obviously Jager is much better than
Halland because concealment, so if one really prefers soft
torpedo spamners then better use Jager.
Hallands torps don't reload fast enough nowadays, probably even
Legendary Shima produces quicker per minute. You can calculate
so, that Shima produces per minute let's say 200k torpedo damage
power but Halland produces 200k amount during 2-3 minutes. That
means Hallands torpedo reload should be buffed or torpedo damage
amount buffed, so it would be equal to other DDs.
But in Randoms where the skillbase is at Bronze level even such
weak Hallnds can perform fine, as the 5 victories yesterday
demo. Gold level players can do finely in Randoms with any DD
because they know how to play most efficently. For Halland it is
mainly DDs killing with torps, that gives the biggest value, and
to do it you must know how to torp DDs.
You also avoid torping at long range, try to get close to not
waste torps and time. And keep spotting and try not to instadie.
Such simple things, and Gold level players know such things and
it is quite easy against Randoms Bronze level playerbase. But a
Gold level player in Randoms performs even better with better
DDs, and in Rankeds as well.
I play sometimes that ship if too bored.
I tried the T7 July 9 cruiser in Randoms. Quite boring like most
cruisers, but little bit more boring because you must constantly
hide. Typical you swim behind a small rock and hope that someone
spots for you. Nothing else.
I got an idea to move to our 2nd forum. This forum is very
restrictive because Stats Religion is not allowed, but the
other forum is mild, so everyone can get in there. And for me
would be more entertaining there. This forum hete is already
very mature, on Goole Page 1. So i don't advertise that forum
here much nowadays, it has enough popularity and visitors. But i
can start to advertise the other forum now, and build some
topics there. I like such creative building process, i have many
ideas for it already. In my opinion it is too primitive to just
play a game. At least make youtube videos during playing, at
least debate in forums, otherwise too low intellect. And also
the community benefits if you produce some material. So, i
suggest everyone to be something more than just stressed Stats
farmer. You can anytime join as well this forum here, come
debate, or compete, or make a blog here, etc.
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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 20, 2024, 5:33 am
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HTML https://wows.freeforums.net/thread/8/general-chat
There i posted an idea of starting to build such challenges
database.
I think it is fun.
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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 20, 2024, 10:23 am
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I don't have yet a solution how to organize such 10 battles
sessions measuring. Because let's say you make 15 battles per
evening and want to submit to contest the 10 battle session with
battles number 3-13. How you do that? The stats page displayes
15 of them with averages over those 15, it doesn't show battles
3-13.
I see the only possibility that the contestant makes every day
exactly 10 battles only with a ship, and that can be verified.
But such solution restricts little bit, because why one has to
stop playing after the 10th. And why one can try his luck only 1
time per day.
So, it is not the best method.
Maybe a Mod can help.
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Re: general chat
By: wows Date: November 21, 2024, 6:20 am
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Recently in Devstrike forum a debunked person made 10 battles
for an unkown reason and performed with them worse than me.
In the new Leaderboard you can try every year to show a better
performance than me.
For example, i have plenty of examples of those Winning streaks
where PR and WR is high, like 5 battles with Hallnd few days
ago, all blue in that streak, or 20 battles Shima in Golds at
80% as i remember, go and do better than such examples. If you
can't do such examples, like the debunked 10 battles Bronze
player, then try harder, and also ask why you can't do better
than me but have a belief that you are better than me? For me it
is obviously entertaining to see such blind believes.
Go and demo in new forum that you are more skilled. What is so
difficult in it?
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Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 25, 2024, 8:31 am
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Weekend went by grinding an another captain in Pampa, but
generally just in an entertainment mode.
Pampa doesn't have guns behind so you must just keep your nose
towards the enemy and no turning left or right, that may take
time to get used to. After hundreds of battles, i can say the
ship is good, not slow, nothing overpowered, i would say it is
the best purchase for DD players in recent years, because T9 DD
Black was not so good, and T9 Jager is not as good ship either.
The best of best DD is obviously Z42 and Cossack but those
require very high skill level plus are kind of boring for
torpedo style players. So, if one day i get enough Steel etc
then i would obtain it.
I have been playing Randoms and Brawls recently a lot, which is
rare from me. Those are game modes for grinding captains, ships,
and i don't have competitive moods recently.
The main debator contacts me still in the game chat. I offered
him the 3 Battles challenge but he refused. The new forum with
challenges idea is ready, there are enough examples how to do
them. If it gets enough contestants one day i will offer prizes
there. In this forum here i offer debates and Wikipedia. As you
see the game offers forums and contests, shouldn't be boring.
In Randoms the community behaves the same, no changes. It is
popular to beg from me for free that i would report others, i
always explain that them that i don't do anything for free and
don't do any Wows community behaviours. But they can't
comprehend and continue to beg me and believe in Stats.
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Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 25, 2024, 2:47 pm
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A bird game to tweet and became afraid of and flied away and
became silent.
HTML https://imgur.com/98qygtv
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