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#Post#: 2011--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 4, 2024, 8:38 am
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For Wows community TeamsWR is so important, but only few of them
can make it high. My suggestion is that if that number is so
important to you then why don't you play advanced ship types and
sink 1+ ships every battle. For example, is it difficult to take
a DD and swim near a BB and sink it with few torps? This is a
simple thing to do, simple game, not a rocket science, swim near
a BB and press the torpedo button, that's it, and in Golds it
gives you very likely a victory, in Randoms you surely get a
higher stats with doing that as well. So, if you realky pray for
stats, then do such simple thing. With Subs and CV it requires
also only few efforts.
I understand that with primitive ship types you can't do it so
easily, but don't play then primitives.
The second suggestion is that play lower tiers, there the main
skill is just aiming, plenty of targets show broad side there
etc. What us so difficult in it in lower tiers?
A more universal suggestion is that start to talk. You have
forums where you can post a replay and talk about it. How else
would you get to know your mistakes?
I can of course suggest to question about TeamsWR religion in
whole, and all brainwashed behaviours like team splits etc, but
obviously you can't comprehend and do such suggestion. So, do
what you can comprehend, talk for example, do a dialogue about
how it is so difficult for you to swim to a BB and torp him. But
also do other topics, like where to go on different maps, etc.
If you are ignorant in all that and just suffer in your believed
Stats, then where it leads, to depression only.
The stats page shows if you have ever got Golds Rank 1. That is
the only neaningful number on that page. And it is totalky
irrelevant how many battles you do to achieve it, totally
irrelevant which TeamsWR you have. If you don't have Rank 1
history then what kind of imaginable skills you have at all in
your opinion? You may have any TeamsWR even a blue one but if
you can't get Rank 1 then you don't have skills, it is simply
this. There are plenty of examples where people with high Soup
rating can't get Rank 1. But there are no examples of people
with Rank 1 who can't demonstrate high TeamsWR. A Rank 1 level
player can obviously show high blue TeamsWR in all game modes
when he just wants. For example if there is a competition going
on, a contest, and Rank 1 level player plans to do its best for
it, then he obviously gets TeamsWR at least 70% for that. But
out of such contest times he has no obligations to demo such
rating. So, if you are capable to comprehend what shows skilks,
then it is your Rank 1 phrase in your stats page. Have that in
your goaks instead of any soup ratings.
If the maximum you have got us Silvers Rank 4, then that is your
skill level, the number 4. You won't ever reach more no matter
which soup win rates you have anywhere. You get nicely stucked
to that rank 4, the Rankeds shows clearly your skill level. It
is naive to believe that if you made more battles you would get
to Gold league. No you won't, your own history proves it, and
all logics in Rankeds filtering system proves it, there won't be
any naive carying to Gold, you get "carried" to worse ranks, but
not higher than your best Silvers R4. This is so obvious, and go
prove the opposite instead of having a debunked blind carry
belief.
Of course doesn't matter at all which skill level you have in
entertainment, but the community itself is obsessed with levels.
So, look at stats your Rankeds histiry and see there your level.
Do you see there Golds Rank 1 or Silvers Rank 4 as the best or
nothing? This what you see is your skill level there.
#Post#: 2021--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 5, 2024, 4:05 am
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Yesterday evening i made ca 20 battles and won 61% from those,
but the ranks almost didn't progress, i moved from rank 3 to
rank 2, maybe got 2 stars in total. That illustrates how
meaningless is the soup win rate.
You can have such 20 battles:
Win, loss, win, loss, repeat 14 more times, win, win. That
givesca 55% WR and 2 stars. Can have also other petcentages and
the same result.
That's why the only meaningful number in your stats is the
Highest rank in all seasons.
In Silvers it needs only 1 player from 6 to make a mistake and
the team looses. For example in a battle a cruiser had 14-15km
concealment and that is already a mistake and that setup forces
to the cruiser to play very far and therefore miss almost all
bullets while enemy goid setup cruisers in front line farm good
input and don't miss any shots.
In Rankeds you don't have so many mistakes in general, compared
to Randoms, so it is still good.
I watch few gold players and seems they don't do now any
battles, because Sprint 1 cannot provide enough gold players. I
guess it is impossible to finish Golds in Sprint 1. I surely
should finish Silvers today evening.
Looks like players have become recent days again mire emotional.
For me it is entertaining to see. I even made screenshots of few
dialogs but i was too lazy to upload them here.
I completed a nice mission of free T10 ship and will get a t10
Sub soon. That was the only missing part from my account.
All captains have now at least 14 points skill setup including
radio, but to be competitive you still should gring them to 21
points. On T9 Black and T10 Halland i slowly move them towards
21 points, no ship grinding anymore. I totally ignore the
resetted Daring line, all free XP goes for captain setups.
I do still what i call an Agressive Scouting, it means no fear
to radars, no fear to 2km distance torping, but also no
obsessive capping, no Easycaps, no gun usage. This is the
playstyle i do confidently, it obviously differs from the
majority of Wows community. I have provided lot of text of my
such playstyle and demoed how effective it is to complete Golds.
I should make videos for DD players to see it, they would
benefit. They won't comprehend some parts, because the community
religion worships team spilt and caps and specially Easycaps,
but they will be capable to comprehend other parts, like which
map locations, which swimming angles, bait smokes and Kamikaze
torpings, etc.
I can try to do all those video tutorials, plus put my Wikipedia
knowledge there, and then i probably quit playing. Let's see.
#Post#: 2026--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: wows Date: November 5, 2024, 9:08 am
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WG has made so good job and inventions that they surely are
aware of all ideas how to add new elements to the game.
One idea which they surely know is to have anti-radar tools,
maybe those are called Jammers in English, I am not sure.
Maybe a CV can drop near a DD a box that makes radar free circle
around it, or a DD presses such button themselves, and enemy
radars won't spot the DD anymore. That would make radar cruisers
less effective so it should be done in a fair way, maybe only
few DDs would have such Jammer tool.
Such feature would add more tools to the game, and I welcome all
such new things. Just such idea.
It is not wise to have too many tools obviously. For example if
a ship had 20 buttons/tools then it would require too much time
to learn which button when to press.
Like with food platter, it is not wise to have 10 different meat
types on it, plus 10 different veggies.
But I personally am too bored with even Advanced ship types, so,
I wouldn't mind having a game mode where you have 20 different
tools on your ship.
#Post#: 2041--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: wows Date: November 8, 2024, 5:13 am
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Sprint 1 Golds playerbase is very highskilled, very challenging.
I am now sure i cannot complete Golds in Sprint 1 ever. Mainly
because all the ca 30 players in there are at equal very high
level, secondly there you need more competitive ship than tech
tree ships. I don't think you need such premiums in Easysprints,
but in Sprint 1 feels so. BB dodge all torps very professionally
at Sprint 1, and Shima with the weakest guns in T10 just dies
when spotted. Maybe Haru would suit better, i will try today, or
even a premium Tromp. It is all enjoyable and fine, no
complaints, and i strongly suggest evrrybody to experience
Difficult sprints, you don't experience it in Randoms ever.
Also those Sprint 1 top players are really emotional, that is a
good entertainment as well.
Saw yesterday also the TWA top clan player. He does unusual
swimming routes with a cruiser around Easycaps always, like
swimming far from Easycaps, near the map edges.
Those who are obsessed with Stats obviously avoid such difficult
Sprint 1. But i strongly suggest to reconsider, and enjoy such
challenge.
#Post#: 2042--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 9, 2024, 12:22 pm
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A DD player made mistakes in a battle, and later came to use
argument "your TeeamsWR on Subs are bad" for my DD play.
HTML https://imgur.com/XLh5IQz
#Post#: 2043--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 10, 2024, 9:25 am
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A potential new debator.
He make claims and when i ask an evidence to those then he
becomes silent.
HTML https://imgur.com/Er8eqIi
#Post#: 2044--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 11, 2024, 9:02 am
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I saw some can manage to complete Golds during Sprint 1. I feel
i can do as well, because last 5 days of the Sprint 1 are not so
difficult anymore. But i don't plan to complete it, i jut
entertain now, collect good dialoges, etc.
There are funny obstacles in life. I used to play with a broken
keyboard some times ago, now i got a stye in a eyelid, it makes
the picture blury little bit, should go away after a week, i
remember having an injured left hand etc, all kind of funny
obstacles.
No ship grinding anymore, but i grind slowly a 16 skill point
captain. No new tactics, just doing my well known tactics. No
competition mentality, more like entertainment mode.
The community is still the same Stats worshipping, that makes
for me more funny debating.
#Post#: 2049--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 14, 2024, 8:02 am
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The new T10 DD La Pampa is offered now. But not so clear honest
way but via Tokens, loot boxes etc.
HTML https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:La_Pampa
HTML https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2024/08/la-pampa-tier-x-pan-american-destroyer.html?m=1
Good concealment, smoke, many torpedos, that is the same for T10
Shima, the difference is that the Pampa speed is 34 km/h while
Shima has 39-41. Such slow speed may look irrelevant, depends
from player and the game mode. Also little bit shorter torpedo
range 10.5km may be irrelevant in some opinions.
So, in general way that new ship is almost equal to Shima.
In Rankeds ship speed is important, also 12km torps range is
important, that makes Shima better from my opinion.
But for Randoms league it is fine. As a premium it makes better
credits than the techtree Shima, so why not to prefer it.
But in Randoms Shimas 20km torps can be an entertainment too, i
use sometimes Shima, Asashio and Yamagiri specially because 20km
torps are fun.
So, the new ship is fine. If you don't have yet Shima then the
new DD will show you if you at all like Shima type ships. If you
have a Shima, then you know what you will get and compare both.
It may happen that the comoarison shows that you don't like so
slow ship.
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My entertainment period in Devstrike forum ended and i am
suprised it lasted so many weeks because Wows community and i
have totally opposite opinions.
This forum got more visitors thanks to it and we got 1 debate
like example. They got enlightening from me. So, we all won.
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Sprint 1 ended for me at Gold Rank 5, i didn't try to get the
Rank 1 i mostly just entertained. I am not sure if to make
Sprint 2 as a contest mode, because i have already done Sprint
2 Diamond status, so it doesn't motivate to repeat.
#Post#: 2050--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: ency Date: November 14, 2024, 1:20 pm
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The MM Tab key shows that enemy maximum La Pampa can have 22300
HP, but in your team actual La Pampa has 22800. How to explain
that?
You can compare Shima and La pampa. Note that Shima speed goes
from 39km/h to 41km/h with the speed button.
Also ship flags may affect speed and things.
But note that La Pampa speed 35.7 is not so slow, maybe some
flags make even faster.
In very general comparison shows La Pampa to have better
properties than Shima, additionally the Heal button, but the
main visible first difference is in speed.
Compare the images, and also some data that you don't see like
torpedo speed/dmg/visibility etc, and make your opinion which of
the 2 ships are generally better.
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1. enemy team La Pampa. Shows the max possible setups.
HTML https://imgur.com/zYWceQ8
2. your team example La Pampa:
HTML https://imgur.com/jTcmuHB
3. your team example Shima setup example:
HTML https://imgur.com/LFPzCgC
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La Pampa maximum prize 77 x 1000 gold = 77k gold via 77 Bundles.
Compare that a T9 DD premium ship costs ca 20k Gold which is 3
times less.
So, they sell the new La Pampa at the price of 3 ships.
You can buy a playable account for that money.
HTML https://imgur.com/hdKz2W9
It is possible to torp-kill La Pampa because he is quite slow:
HTML https://imgur.com/RZzvWJj
Today 3 of 8 battles had La Pampas. Quite popular ship.
#Post#: 2051--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 15, 2024, 4:17 am
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Comparison of similar ships like Shima and Pampa is not so easy
and a matter of opinions. Just like 2 similar pizzas or soups
are difficult to compare.
One not talked difference is that Shimas legendary module makes
toroedo tubes rotation the slowest among DDs, you often wait 5
seconds to get torpedo tubes to the right direction, you often
die before tubes turn ready. That is not so big issue and
specially experienced players don't suffer often about it, but
sometimes still they do. The Pampa don't have such slow torp
tubes, that is a small feature in comparison. It is like 1 pizza
has not enough blue cheese on it compared to the other pizza has
enough, etc, so a small difference issue.
I don't like gambling idea in general, but as a financially fine
citizen i bought the gambling packages and got the ship, not a
financial issue, and fine for entertainment to spend something
sometimes.
I will give more opinions later. For me torpedo oriented
playstyle is entertaining, and Pampa, Asashio, Shima, Yamagiri,
Halland are all good for such playstyle. There are even few more
torpedo boats, like Jager with 5.4km best concealment in the
game, so if one likes torps then obtain that as well in the
future.
You don't have to have a goal to perform well with Pampa, you
enjoy just sinking 1 BB with it. That is the hralthy right
mindset in entertainment.
If you get into competitive mood, then Pampa surely can do
Sprint 2 Diamond achievement, but in my opinion Shima does
little bit better that goal. Mainly because the ship speed
issue, and because of the Advanced tactics i use that require
speed.
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