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Re: general chat
By: ency Date: September 28, 2024, 3:45 am
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Shima with legendary mod and captain skills makes at 103.3s
speed 15 torpedos.
For example premium Tromp makes at 70s speed 6 torps.
So, if you calculate the time for making 1 torpedo, then Shima
makes 1 torpedo after every 7 seconds but Tromp makes 1 torp at
12 seconds. That makes Shima torpedo creation much faster. And
if you compare with other boats then Shima is pretty fast still.
Secondly, when the game starts then it takes time to swim closer
to enemies, and you can't swim to torping distance imemdiately
after 70 seconds, you still need 100 seconds at least and hope
you get imemdiately a good torping target. During the game you
anyway swim around and scout and can't keep instantly torping al
lthe time. That makes torpedo salvo preparation times quite
irrelevant if they are all around 70-120s.
But main argument is that after Shima gets his 15 torps ready
then those can sink ultimately 3 BB ships but Tromp can only
sink maximum 1 BB with 6 torps. And that makes the main
difference. Also 15 torps are more likely to hit enemy DDs than
6 torps.
That makes Shima popular in Clanss and effective in all other
game modes. You get a good concealment plus the best torps plus
smoke plus high speed, those things are very effective. Other
DDs don't have such possibilities. I wouldn't be a Sprint 1 gold
player if those Shima line ships were not effective.
The commnuity is Randoms minded where DDs shoot bulelts
imemdiately when they encounter the other DD or even other ship
type. Al lthey do is pew pew and swim to caps, set smoke and
sit. And that produces wrong beleives, like caps matter and DD
guns must be used etc.
In Rankeds you can hunt DDs with a so called gun boat, but such
hunting is very risky because once a DD uses guns he gets 2-3
ships doing focus fire on him and his guns become irrelevant
compared to enemy 3 ships including enemy weakergun DD. Much
more effective is to avoid guns totally and only spot and torp.
And shima is very fine for that, it can sink ultimately 3
enemies every 100 seconds.
See the screenshot where one Wows minded person came to tell me
that Shiam is a bad choice. No it is not a bad at all, but i
admit it requires more scouting, torping and tactics knowledge,
plus being non-Randoms minded.
I can't say that the whole Wows community has such wrong opinion
about Shimas, because i have seen few players suggesting Shimas
in Clanss and Rankeds. But i can generalize that majority of the
commnuity has such wrong belief.
Also note that i don't prefer to use any better or premium
vehicles in competition, i do honest competition for myself to
know my own skilllevel, no premiums no flags. Why to say that a
tech tree ship is a bad choice etc, it is a very fine honest
choice.
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#Post#: 1974--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: September 28, 2024, 7:16 am
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This is an example suggestable captain setup for Shima-line
ships.
It has premium 21-skills captain plus a legendary torpedo reload
module.
As you see you the premium captain has 2 enhanced 1-point
skills, one is for guns rotation speed that premium captain has
little bit better than standard captains, you totally ignore
that 1-point skill and don't take it, because Shima has always
the worst guns among DDs and should not use them anyway, so you
don't get any benefits from a premium captain that part,
secondly the premium captain has a 1-point modules survivability
skill little bit stronger than standard captains and that skil
lyou take always for DDs and benefit from that premium skill
little bit more standard captain players.
You see 2 mandatory 4 points skills: radio and concealment.
Those you chose always, without a radio the game is dummy and
turns off possibility to do any smart positioning and tactics
and you just get spotted if you don't have it.
After radio+concealment, the next step is to enhance torpedo
reload, but not torpedo speed etc, because your 15 torps are
already effective.
There is a 3-points Adrenaline Rush skill, that works like if
you lose half health points then your torpedo reload becomes ca
10 secs faster, roughly so. And other skills also try to make
reload faster, and ignore any torpedo characteristics, ignore
any guns charateristics. Only have quick torpedo reload and good
agressive scouting abilities.
There is also 4-points Dispersion skill, it is debatable if it
is optimal choice or not, in my opinion it gives more value than
other choises. It enables you do agressive scouting and if
enemies shoot you then their shells don't hit you so often, you
scout, get spotted, and swim away while enemies miss the bulelts
on you, and you yourself obviously don't use guns at all. Under
being radars that skill works.
So, this is the ultimate torpedo boat setup, or call it
agressive torpedo scout. You almost never swi mto caps, you just
scout and torp, no gun usage, no sitting in smoke, no obsessive
capping, mainly you swi mto the middle of the maps i nthe start
and send out torps, no swimming to caps. If you can comprehend
such playstyle then good, but for Wows commnutiy it is difficult
to ocmprehend such playstyle.
From my experience, and demos, and rational reasoning, it is an
effective playstyle, because those 15 torps are very effective.
You must be Gold or Diamond level player to use such playstyle i
guess. For example do you find yourself often in Kamikaze
torping? Yes or no? If No, then you are on the Silver level yet
and probably cannot do any scouting and anything else, you can
only have 70% TeamsWR for Randoms, but this captai nsetup here
requires Diamond level skills.
So, look at those skill setup here and contemplate if you could
ever play Shima-line ships with such setup.
Shortly, this is the best setup, and the premium captain doesn't
benefit much there in my opinion, but a legendary mod surely
makes a benefit.
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Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 28, 2024, 10:56 am
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Wows community on 2024 doesn't anymore all together repeat that
they have p-e-nis/radar, but in Sprint 2 Rankeds Gold league
some few examples still do it.
The word p-e-nis appears as stars somehow, another example of
the brainwashed world: penis.
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#Post#: 1977--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 28, 2024, 11:32 am
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Wows commnuity believes that low teams rating person should
produce low kills battles.
Here is a debunking example where i killed 4 of 6 enemies.
There is no luck or carrying or anything brainwashed in this
typical battle, but the real skills.
So, it is clear that TeamsWR doesn't tell anything truth, why
would you ever pray for it at all?
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#Post#: 1978--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: ency Date: September 28, 2024, 4:19 pm
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#Post#: 1979--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: September 30, 2024, 7:07 am
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Yesterday in Golds i stayed on Rank 2 and couldn't complete it.
Maybe today will be more lucky.
Main difficulty is with Radar Mms, if your team doesn't have
them but enemy's has then majority of times your team loses.
Also Cv Mms are difficult, other Mms are easy.
When i write to enemies that our team's cruiser has 16km
concealment and a Dd has 8+ km concealment, then most times the
team reports me and we most times lose. I don't understand why
to ever report anyone at all, but if reporting means a complaint
in general then what to complain if your ship setup is so wrong
that it will obviously be visible anyway in a minute to enemies
and obviously causes a distvantage to the team and a loss. My
informing to enemies proves i read Mm and educate everyone,
without such informing the result of the battle doesn't change.
So, that is another example of the reportive cult.
I received a new keyboard and can again use now Shift button.
Internet is fine as well, so i believe as planned that it takes
only few dayes to complete the league. Maybe i can complete last
5 stars even today with 10 battles. But it can of course fall
again to Rank 6. In that case i complete the league in next
Sprint.
Now there are more Silver R1 players in the Golds, and the
overall skillbase is droping every day and every Sprint.
Buff maps can add some new tactics and possibilities. For
example, if your torps become from 20k damage to 30k then you
obviously use more wide spread torps because it is enough if
only 1 torp makes a hit, no need to overkill with 3 torp hits.
Etc.
I haven't seen any new Op ships, still Napoli is very effective,
also smoke+electronics Dds, and all radar stronggun cruisers are
still effective of course.
If any of you like honest effective cruisers then take a tech
three radar cruiser and keep mentality on Dd hunting and that is
very effective and you can compkete leagues this way. But for me
as an advanced vehicle type player playing a cruiser is
obviously very simplistic and dependent on luck and others. If
your Dds die then the battle is usually over for primates, if
the radar fails, then again a dummy health pool exchange with
enemies, no manuverability no tactics, too primitive.
Playing honest Shima provides maximum amount of tactics, soni
suggest to everybody to use any honest advanced ship type. But
you must get on the Gold sertificate first, just learn tactics
from this forum, ask, talk, practice. Start from Mm reading
practice, Wows community gold members don't do it at all, maybe
1 from 70 players looks at Mm list, and 1 from 400 players looks
Mm ships characteristics like concealments etc.
I believe after i finish the Gokd and get Diamond sertificate i
feel bored again, and may again take few months ofd from
playing. Let's see.
#Post#: 1980--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: October 1, 2024, 7:24 am
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Yesterday i continud still to stay on Rank 2. Different reasons,
but it shows clearly that nobody gets carried to anywhere, you
can stay on Rank 2 for many days.
Yesterday i saw an Elbing player with a 8km concealment. If you
play that bad choice ship then at least have 6.5km concealment.
I can play with that Elbing and every other Dd because i have
the kniwledge and understanding, i would not perform better than
with other Dds but i would still progress in leagues sliwly.
That Elbing player didn't have any knowledge. And other such few
examples i saw, plus also a T11 Cv which is rare to see.
So, there surely was something to talk about now, therefore not
totally boring. If you find yourself soeechless after
entertainment evening then you did something realky wrong. So,
go and talk, share tactics and opinions, otherwise why you do
what you do at all?
#Post#: 1985--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: October 2, 2024, 7:21 am
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Not really sure if i want to try a challenge "get Gold R1 5
times per season". What do you think, would it be entertaining?
Maybe we can do a contest for Sprint 3 who completes Gold
quicker there and all cheat ships and cheating methods are
sllowed, like premium ships etc? That chalkenge would favour
those who have more free time every day, i have only evenings as
free time. What do you think about such contest?
One more idea is to agree that we do Sprint 3 only with Japanese
ships, or even with agreed 1-2 ships.
My account does't have much ship choice, so i can do only Alvaro
and Tromp battles. With both those 2 i totally understand how to
use efficently their features, i think i understand that for
every DDs in the game, i think i have played almost all of them.
Because the cult refuses any competition then i think it is
anyway pointless to offer any prizes. I think let's try just the
challenge to complete the Gold as many times as possible, and i
will use my 2 cheat premiums DDs next. If any of you want to
join any contest, or talk about things, then go ahead, the
universe offers you that choice here and in 1 another forum,
those 2 places are enough for this planet.
#Post#: 1989--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: Hanuman Date: October 2, 2024, 11:29 am
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There is no Super Unicum things, no Bad players, no anything
based on soup ratings. Soup is soup, nothing meaningful in soups
and conclusions and titles based on soup.
There is Diamond players, Gold members, etc, in Sprints 1-2. But
there are no unicums and nothing else based on teams soup.
If you believe in soup then go take any honest ship on Sprint 1
and demo what your soup can do there. You don't demo anything
with premium ships in childrens game mode. You are never
anything like Super Unibuts etc, but only Gold, Silver or
Diamond level players. And if your belief system sllows then do
the Gold certificate and others with honest methods, not by
credit card method.
Isn't that obvious?
If you ever want to debate me in anything then you must
comprehend that you Super Unikums and all teamsWR believe system
has no value to me, i have myself provided enough arguments and
demos even based on your delusional ratings where i planned and
demoed plenty of times Super Uniks and other delusional titles,
plus debunked plenty of times your cults believes in soup and
everything else.
Go and do 3 certificates with honest methods at your Super
level, i haven't seen any achieved that in Wows community. Take
Zao or Yamato and compkete Gold league, no matter if you do it
by illysional Super Unikum tiltle or Bad Player title, jus do
it. Why so diffcult and why keep a delusional belief that your
Super title helps and matters anything in achieving that?
#Post#: 1990--------------------------------------------------
Re: general chat
By: wows Date: October 2, 2024, 11:59 am
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In team games players don't have ratings, but in team games
where teams change in every battle there is even no single
teams, and if there are thousands of battles with different
teams and the average is calculated based on all different tier
vehickes, then such Win Rate is in other words a total soup.
If anyone belives that soup rating belongs to anyone, then he is
delusional. And any titles like Super Unicum based on such soup
ratings is a total delusional title. Also note that such average
total based on thousands of soup battles in big MMs where 1
players input is irrelevant, is far from any common sense, and
it tends to stuck and not change because lot of battles.
Why to keep believing in soup ideaology? If you think that Super
Unicum aka SoupWR=65% means skills or knowledge etc, then that
is totally soupy belief.
There is no meaning in Super Unikum concept.
Or do you perhaps believe that Spint 1-2 doesn't have skilful
players aka in your terms Super Unikums? Or even better, you
might believe that Randoms have more skilkful players than
Rankeds? If your such false belief is true then all those Super
title stats are valueless and fabricated on creditcardless
childrens in Randoms. If your belief is that Spint 1-2 have more
skillful players than Randoms, then i have defeated them plenty
of times as a Diamond member.
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