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#Post#: 1765--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: Chaplain1 Date: August 11, 2024, 10:36 am
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I think the standpoints are such:
1. you think Kita is very good in something, i don't think that,
i think many ships are betetr.
2. you think that for Kita a very effective playstyle is to set
smokes and farm like cruiser, i don't think so.
3. you think like wows commnuity that capping is important, i
don't think that.
4. you think that setting msokes to cruisers is pointless, i
disagree with that in 90%, but i admit in 10% part that
sometimes such smokes become not optimal.
5. like wows commnuity you think team splits are fine, i
disagree, like wows commnuity you think capping is important, i
disagree.
6. you seem to support Wows commnuity many believes, for exampel
the debunked crossfire argument, i dont support any wows
commnutiy belives.
Those are the main differences in believes as i see. but we are
both i nthe same gold league, our 1 battle was a definitive loss
as we both agreed, i can say you were in a wrong location and
didnt use radar and did an obsessive tea msplit liek your
commnuity, you say my ship did non-optimal methods, but we both
play better than any in Randoms and in our team because we both
survived as last players and outplay any Randoms player, in
entertainemnt games there is too much skills that we have
already, where should such debate about a certainly lost battle
head at all?
#Post#: 1766--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: Chaplain1 Date: August 11, 2024, 12:19 pm
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There is no winner or looser in this debate, it was a dialogue.
#Post#: 1767--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: Chaplain1 Date: August 11, 2024, 1:25 pm
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are you interested in making videos, we can make many tactics
examples, which software do you usggest to me to make videos?
#Post#: 1768--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: guest48 Date: August 11, 2024, 3:23 pm
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[quote]are you interested in making videos, we can make many
tactics examples, which software do you usggest to me to make
videos?
[/quote]
I don't really have much time to spare to begin something like
this to be honest.
I am using Davinci Resolve
HTML https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
Just out of curiosity, I would like to see your ingame stats,
like victory percentage etc. Your profile is private, so I could
not see them in game. Could you share a screenshot?
#Post#: 1769--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: Chaplain1 Date: August 11, 2024, 4:04 pm
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[quote author=Wosator link=topic=227.msg1768#msg1768
date=1723407801]
[quote]are you interested in making videos, we can make many
tactics examples, which software do you usggest to me to make
videos?
[/quote]
I don't really have much time to spare to begin something like
this to be honest.
I am using Davinci Resolve
HTML https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
Just out of curiosity, I would like to see your ingame stats,
like victory percentage etc. Your profile is private, so I could
not see them in game. Could you share a screenshot?
[/quote]
Players don't have stats, and only debunekd Wows commnutiy cares
about those imaginary stats.
If i asked from you how many university degrees you have, then
what would you think about that question? That question is the
same like your community's stats obsession, just one is obsessed
with the quantity of uni degrees and believes that those degrees
support his opinions. Or similar to your martial arts community
which i debunked above, they would also try to end a debate by
asking how many black belts the debator has. Those examples all
illustrate how pointless is to ever care about any such stats,
degrees, money amount etc. Also note that you yourself made your
playername unvisible i nthe video, why would you expect others
to show stats or any other identity then, this is a double
standards.
In my opinion you are still in the Wows commnuity Stats
religion, why else you talk about stats, wh yelse you support
many their beleives liek capping obsession etc. But you seem to
be more liek a skilled cult believer, or little bit advanced fro
mthem ,so you believe the mai nreligion but are little bit less
extremist. Like a muslim wife who doesn't wear the face covering
compared to all her other citizen around, but still believing
the core of the religion, avoiding pork etc. So, i would
describe you so, and i think this is already a very advanced
state/situation.
I suggest that try to question/contemplate on your community
believes, try opposite things they do and believe. For example,
at start try to live your life without mentioning the word Stats
for 3 days and don't look them. Then try 3 weeks, and so on,
this is a good start. And try to play advanced ship types only,
for example try to finish the league with Kita which is totally
allowed honest nonpremium ship, dont ever use cruisers/BBs and
specially no premiums. That is a good start too. And after
trying such small steps you might one day realise that Wows cult
with their believes and methods are not healthy at all. In
normal life nobody cares ever about computer game
achievements/stats, learn to play for pleasure like games are
meant for. I for example don't even know how to set my stats
visible or unvisible, i almost never look them, the only time i
look is when i do Bronze Challenge o nthe Rankeds Season start,
i don't really look, i jsut make screenshots to post, that
happens once over months, and i truly don't feel anything
towards stats, total freedom, no obsession, no addiction, etc.
That is what i suggest to others as well.
#Post#: 1770--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: guest48 Date: August 12, 2024, 11:33 am
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I am sorry but you have not debunked absolutely anything, and
you haven't even tried to debunk, since you haven't portrayed
absolutely no argument so far.. You are just dodging all my
points and questions with completely irrelevant answers.
And no stats are not irrelevant. They paint a picture about how
good you are or how bad you are, and how much your ideas and
tactics work, which I am certain they absolutely don't work at
all. It's just theory, and a surprisingly illogic one.
#Post#: 1771--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: Chaplain1 Date: August 12, 2024, 12:20 pm
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[quote author=Wosator link=topic=227.msg1770#msg1770
date=1723480420]
I am sorry but you have not debunked absolutely anything,
[/quote]
If you are truly not sorry then that would show up always, an
authentic sorry cannot be hided. You just use such false sorry
because it is popular to use it. I don't think you are sorry for
anything, and the proof is that you don't explain in which part
you were wrong or any sorryable thing apepared. So ,there really
is no sorry, why to use such phrase at all. Similar valueless
phrase is also for example "believe me"- why should anyone
believe in anything or anyone. And other such irrelevant
phrases, they all lead sooner or later to straight personal
attacks, asking how many black belts you have, which stats you
have, and believe me this and that, etc.
I provided a debunking explanation about your martial arts
commnuity, and you didn't respond, that is a debunking. I can
even give more details about that debunking argument there.
Also, i didn't see you to debunk anything. You provided
stanbdpoints, me too, and we agreed that the battle was lsot
anyway and that we 2 played the best i nthat battle.
[quote author=Wosator link=topic=227.msg1770#msg1770
date=1723480420]
and you haven't even tried to debunk, since you haven't
portrayed absolutely no argument so far.. You are just dodging
all my points and questions with completely irrelevant answers.
And no stats are not irrelevant. They paint a picture about how
good you are or how bad you are, and how much your ideas and
tactics work, which I am certain they absolutely don't work at
all. It's just theory, and a surprisingly illogic one.
[/quote]
I provided a list of standpoints, plus a list of my arguments
why sitting in smoke is not efficent. That is surely at least a
try and argumenting. So you are wrong if you want to absolutize
anything. Show, which your argument you want me to comment? I
can surely find some arguments that you didnt explicitely
respond to.
You say that stats are not irrelevant, well i predicted that
very right then about you. I provided black belt examples etc,
you didn't provide any debunking responses to those. I can
repeat those examples there: what if i ask your university stats
at the end of debate? How would you react and think about such
thing? Obviously it would come out you have worse stats and then
what, you are glad to end the debate with you loosing the debate
because you have worse uni stats?
At the end you say that my tactics don't work etc, but i
explained above that we are equal gold players, there are enough
tactics needed to get to that league at all.
#Post#: 1772--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: wows Date: August 12, 2024, 12:29 pm
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I am not sure how the topic went locked, i dont know how to
unlock it either.
Also your username changed to "guest48 ", maybe that
automatically causes a topic lock.
Probably you acted mentally unstable way and deleted your
account.
[quote]
"Warning: topic is currently/will be locked!
Only admins and moderators can reply. "[/quote]
#Post#: 1773--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: wows Date: August 12, 2024, 12:45 pm
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So, let's repeat what was said.
You said that it is good that Kita sits in smoke, i disagreed by
explaining why it disagree.
In smoke the potentional spotting decreases, specially in such 5
player MM where you have 1 DD and Alaska sitting behind a rock
and not using radar. Also sitting in smoke causes that enemies
send torps into the smoke etc, it is not so efficent to torp out
of smoke, etc.
If you look an average battle then such sitting in smoke doesn't
cause much damage anyway, maybe the average is +10k dmg, plus it
makes other problems so the result is not good. As i explained
above, it is a generally bad habit, even in Randoms you see
people complaining about such habit and asking a DD to go to
scout.
So, which arguments you have here with it to support it?
And finally you show a pure Wows commnutiy Stats religion
attitudes. Stats, car driving licence, money amount, etc etc,
they don't drive the car, the driver drives, not the licence,
the driver has arguments and opinions, not Stats and licences.
If my tactics were weak i would not be in Golden league at all.
Here Wows commnuity typically suggests a debunked opinion that
everyone can be carried to that league etc. That we have
debunked many times, just see with your eyes a Randoms battle
result sheet, there you don't even see 1 gold player,i have
provided even more arguments to debunk that belief. So, there is
definitely enough skills in every gold member.
If you are so obsessed with Stats then i suggest to do a Bronze
challenge, pick Kita-line ship or any other allowed honest
nonpremium advanced ship type and do it, only 1 evening, those
results i accept as Stats. But playing premium Alaska in easycap
behind a rock in Gold league is not acceptable skill measuring,
also your other imaginary Stats are not. And why to feel
uffering that you must be better than other golden members at
all? I don't suffer at all in such way. Or why to crave about
being smarter than anyone? You came to prove that you are
smarter, right, i don't do that. Demonstrate yourself strong
concincing arguments and use proper methods, and that's it. you
and your commnuity come to argue and ask how many black belts,
money and Stats i have? - Such method is not mentally well, not
acceptable, no courts accept it, nobody except your debunked
commnuity. This is how it is.
#Post#: 1774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Playing Kitakaze
By: wows Date: August 12, 2024, 12:54 pm
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The result of that debate: wows commnutiy loses.
The debator ran emotionally away fro mthe debate. Also used not
allowed methods, like trying to impress judges with Stats, skin
color, money amount, black belt length, etc. Those impressings
are offtopic and not allowed i nany courts, in anywhere. If you
feel that those should be allowed then i would instantly debunk
you by showing either more university stats or other such
Stats-alike numbers.
Typical topics from debunked Wows commnutiy: obsession for
irrelevant caps, believing that player have stats, etc. A
sugegstion is that take your last 3 battles, remember them, or
watch them, how many times caps mattered there at all, how many
times sitting in smoke succeeded, how many times any TeamsWR
numbers matetred at all, how many crossfires over caps happened,
etc, and the reality is that those 3 demo battles debunk all
Wows commnuity believes.
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