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corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 2:48 am
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From the below opinions we must first chose only 1 to start a
debate.
[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1320#msg1320
date=1693771965]
easy money....but i know you wil not pay.....but lets try...
easiest is your corssfire argument or the preferded
lemmingtrain...
its so easy to see why crossfire is much more effektive then a
lemmingtrain because of the use of AP shells. they make much
more damage then he. its also a fact that in higher clanwars
leagues and in kots you will never see a lemmingtrain because it
is easy to win against the train.
so how do you want to pay?
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 3:02 am
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Seems like the topic tries to compare 2 things:
a) corssfire
b) lemmingtrain
One is shooting when the enemy shows the broad side.
The 2nd is when vehicles drive in al ine after each other.
Shooting versus driving are quite different things, like eating
and shopping. Eating is important bcause humans need food, and
shopping is important too otherwise you don't get the food.
Shooting is important to make damage and driving is important
because you need to drive to the shooting range. It is difficult
to ocmpare what is more important or more effective: eating or
shooting or driving or shopping. I sugegst to define clearly
what is compared exactly and is it some kind of improtance that
is compared or what? Secondly, can you prove where i have
compared those things or made statements about those?
[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1320#msg1320
date=1693771965]
its so easy to see why crossfire is much more effektive then a
lemmingtrain
[/quote]
What do you mean by effectiveness, do you mea nthe overall
impact to the battle result? Do oyu want to say that shooting is
more important that driving?
[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1320#msg1320
date=1693771965]
its so easy to see why crossfire is much more effektive then a
lemmingtrain because of the use of AP shells. they make much
more damage then he.
[/quote]
It looks like your topic is "AP is more effective than HE" and
in that case we can forget crossfire and lemmingtrain and eating
totally and concentrate on that HE-topic. Can you say what is
the topic?
[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1320#msg1320
date=1693771965]
Clanwars leagues and in kots you will never see a lemmingtrain
because it is easy to win against the train.
[/quote]
It looksl ike your topic is that "lemmingtrain is bad". Can you
confirm that this is the topic, and not eating and HE etc?
Define clearly your statement, behave adequately, provide your
arguments.
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 10:33 am
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[quote author=Hanuman al Dente link=topic=123.msg1328#msg1328
date=1693926328]
You should be capable to write to the debate topic there.
If you write there something like your dictor-talk, then you
lose imemdiately.
If you don't comment there then i decalre wows commnuity to lose
there again.
I won't change anyone's name. Your own community suggested that
name suffix to everyone.
[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1327#msg1327
date=1693920578]
First change my name back dictator!!!
[/quote]
[/quote]
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 10:34 am
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[quote author=RankedGood Al Dente link=topic=123.msg1329#msg1329
date=1693927059]
then **** you adolf hitler............ stupid dictator...but i
want my money!!!
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 10:36 am
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This debate is over and the looser is: Wows commnuity.
The community was again inadequate in words that come out from
its mouth. The community couldn't explain what he said, couldn't
pick 1 topic and behave adequately.
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 1:25 pm
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See what encyclopedia says:
About crossfire:
HTML https://wows.createaforum.com/rules/crossfire-is-not-a-goal/msg1193
About lemmingtrian:
HTML https://wows.createaforum.com/rules/lemmingtrain-illusion/msg1166/
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Re: corssfire argument or the preferded lemmingtrain
By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2023, 1:38 pm
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Let's rememebr few truths again.
1. Lemming train is natural because vehicles have different
speed and start at different times. It occures in nature as
well. Nature is not foolish.
2. The smaller the team the more benefitial is to stay together
andn ot split. For example, let's say you have a brawl where
your team has 2 BBs against enemy 2 BBs. In that it is wise if 2
alley BBs stay together and 50% likely they meet only 1 eemy
splitted BB and 2 kill one in 100% likelyhood and they win, also
50% likelyhood to meet both 2 enemy BBs together usplitted and
then it is 50-50 if they win those 2 together or not. So, if
alley 2 BBs won't split then there are 2 possibilities how enemy
BBs act and first possibility gives 100% of victory and the
other possibility gives 50% likelyhood to win, no matter which
of the 2 possibilities arises there is at least 50% chance to
win but because debunked commnuity likes to split up then it is
100% winning. In math they say that the overall chance to win is
75% when they don't split up. If they split up then the winning
chances is 25%. That math applies also to teams bigger than 2,
specially to Rankeds at team size 5-6. That math proves that The
smaller the team the more benefitial is to stay together andn ot
split. Both nature and math sugegsts not to split but to do
lemmingtrain and stay together.
3. when teams split then AP crossfirering to broadshowing ships
is not possible on most maps bcause shooting range and
obstacleous rocks. Enemies show broadsides always sooner or
later, no matter if teams split or not. There is no need to do
team splits to do crossfire. And crossfire is not a key, the key
is to shoot DDs. You load HE always i nthe beginning of the
battles to hunt DDs, never APs.
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