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#Post#: 1968--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contests chat
By: Hanuman Date: September 25, 2024, 3:52 am
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I cancelled my attempt to try to get 200k dmg with Asashio, and
i don't have any other better ship choices either, for the
Devstrike contest. It seems you must try ca 30 Random battles to
get 1 such result and it requires too much luck and i realky
don't enjoy Randoms at all.
But i continue the Gold R1 goal as a private cintest. And i
should get it done by the weekend.
After that i don't know which other entertainment or contest to
invent, maybe i will try my first vudeo making.
I started the certification issueing idea. Now you must just
pass Rankeds leagues for it, but in the future i think we can
make test questions to check knowledge as well. I think we
should somehow draw a printable certificates. Silver certificate
should have silver color etc.
So, as you see there are something new and creative going on,
not just dummy playing, hatred and stats worshipping.
I removed the antispam test question from the registration area,
now it should be easier to register to the forum. But you should
either contact the forum members in the game chat or other wayes
if you havevtroubles regustering.
The gane still offers few neuances to learn, but in generally it
is getting boring of cause, nothing new for me.
I must thank that the Wows community invited me back to play, i
quit playing recent mon5hs ago, sold accounts, etc, bwcause it
was boring, thanks for inviting me back, we made more value for
the wikipedia meanwhile.
I encoyrage you all to talk, the universe has 2 places where to
talk. If you don't talk you won't progress in the game and in
the life. Also i encoyrage to question how is there 2 totalky
opoosite religions in the community, 1 group belueves in stats
worships etc, the other group totally in opposite things.
Question about it, and why not to stay on a 3rd your personal
religion. Why you have to brainwashingly adopt to the Wows cult
religion believes. I don't see anything good in their religion,
why you all see it is a fine religion?
#Post#: 1982--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contests chat
By: ency Date: October 1, 2024, 4:46 pm
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On 01/10/2024 at Sprint 2 i managed to compelte the Gold league.
HTML https://imgur.com/FrxS2xj
HTML https://imgur.com/DR6NgmV
HTML https://imgur.com/UWblqT8
HTML https://imgur.com/tm1ba3P
HTML https://imgur.com/oOQEEnc
HTML https://imgur.com/hAFxMcP
Replay of the last battle to get Gold R1:
HTML https://replayswows.com/replay/208071#stats
Rank 1 last day ships used:
HTML https://imgur.com/iYlW6Z4
Last 30 days honest ships used:
HTML https://imgur.com/Xk2NjhT
HTML https://wows-numbers.com/player/681465583,encyclopedia2/?type=rank
HTML https://imgur.com/zVNbxRZ
#Post#: 1984--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contests chat
By: Hanuman Date: October 2, 2024, 5:11 am
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We can look the screebshots and do some reasoning now.
1. It looks like it took 628 battles in total durin 2 sprints to
complete all 3 leagues. League number 1 the Bronze league took
around 50 battles, Silver league probably ca 200 battles and the
Gild probably ca 400 battles, in total ca 650 battles during ca
1 month. The screenshots show probably more accurate numbers,
but roughly so that Sprint 1 Silver is taking a lot battles
because all Sprint 1 battles are with high skill players, and
Gold at Sprint 2 has lower skill players but there are so many
stars under each rank, lot of battles needed. For example i
stayed 2-3 dayes on Gold Rank 2 and not getting the needed 5
stars inside there.
Roughly 600 battles during 2 sprint or 1 month means ca 20
battles per day, playing every day. I remember some dayes i
tried Randoms and there the long battles nake even 10 battles
per day difficult ti get, but in Rankeds in small MMs the
average 20 shorter battles comes easier.
Such opinions about the total number if ca 600 battles.
Try yourself Sprint 1 - 2 playerbase battles one day, and you
see it takes a lot of battles to get any progress. Obviously
Wows community likes to believe everybody can get leagues than
with 600 battles. Well, i have prived the opposite many wayes
many times for years, go and demo that you can get carried
through the leagus, even money and contests are offered to you
for that.
2. I saw that for some weeks i was on all 7 dayes with different
TeamsWR, you could see all those words: Super Unicum, Very Bad,
Very good, Good, and the total average SoupWr as Good. So, like
the whole spectrum on soup ratings every day which illustrates
how pointless those soup ratings are because which of them you
choose to describe the best one's skills, is it the Super Unicum
or Very Bad column data?
Sprint 1 Silver league seems to be more difficult than Sprint 2
Gold league because of the Sprint 1 playerbase.
For me it took some time when i figured out the tactics for each
map and Mm and after that i predicted surely to complete the
league with 5 days, and that happened.
3. During those ca 600 battles i never swimmed in the start to
easycaps, never, not even once. Have you swimmed to easycaps in
you last 6 battles? Of course, you prefere that, because you
prioritize caps over victory, and are scared of difficult jobs.
I mostly swimmed to the center of maps, or near main caps. You
all kniw my playstyle, i don't do any capping usually.
Also mostly torpedo damage, because Shima line ship guns are
pointless.
I did Escorting and Pair tactics, Bait tactics and few Cruiser
Blockage tactics, all kniwn in Wikipedia, mainly advanced
scouting and torping, honest tech tree ships without flags.
I trolled* only in 20 battles during those 600, for example
following Khabas and Elbungs etc. Unternet was bad in total if 4
days, keyboard broken 3 weeks, and in the 4th i got a new good
keyboard. Only 3 phone calls in total during the battle month.
So, typical normal environment for battles.
Only 1 time i saw T11 Cvs during the month.
4. I saw the famoues nazi clan Yoboy representative in 1-2
battles. He wrote in English to the battle chat that we loose
because i was in the team, and the opposite happened and i
carried the battle, so he was wrong like alwayes. I remember few
Twa-clan players, that is some sort of contest winning clan,
they played Star-saving tactics as i remember.
5. I am not sure if there is possible to complete the Gold
during Sprint 1, i think not enough players for that.
Clan battles have surely lower skillbase than Rankeds, and
Randoms are a total kindergarden. But even Sprint 1-2 are quite
primitive, so i suggest to use only challenging honest ships
without any flags to make it more challenging.
During the month i earned credits and bought Yamagiry, Daring,
the latter one was to get Res B points so i can now buy another
Legendary module.
I am not sure how to proceed with the boring game. I am a Sprint
2 Diamond certifiate player with honest methods, i don't feel
there is anything challenging anymore. Maybe i can try premiums
now to complete Goldss, i have Tromp and Alvaro.Sad that i can't
get battles for Yamagiri.
Maybe i try video making. Let's see. I don't have any new
competition ideas right now.
If any of you feels ypu are better than me, then go do Sprint
1-2 Gold R1 with honest ships, then you are better than me.
Isn't that obvious? Don't have a delusional belief that your
higher TeamsWR makes you better than me or anybody, at your
SoupWR=70% you are worse than SoupWR=40% Diamond member, always,
that is obvious.
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Re: Contests chat
By: Hanuman Date: October 17, 2024, 5:51 am
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Today starts the Sprint 4 and soon in few weeks the new Season.
I am not sure if to try another contest for the next Season.
One idea is to try to finish Gold in Sprint 1. Maybe it is not
possible at all, because on Day 2 you can't even get a battle in
Silvers, so you waste 1 day from 10 dayes totally. And Silver
requires usually many dayes because it has the most skillful
players online at Sprint 1, so let's say you finish Silver by
day 6 and then it is again difficult to get a battle in Golds,
so i am not sure if 3 dayes are enough for Golds. But maybe it
is possible, for sure you can get GR10 at day 8-9, but therr are
like 30 stars to do in Golds and i that requires more than 2
evenings.
I would still use HaruShima line and wouldn't experiment with
others anymore, plus i would use flags because such Sprint 1
challenge is extremely short.
Well, we can try that Sprint 1 GR1 challenge, but probably not
achievable. Maybe if one uses a new OP premium in gold and does
TeamsWR=80% then it fits to Sprint 1.
I should get enough goldduring next last Sprint for captain
movements, so next time i will be well prapeared for the next
Season. In the current season i had some weaker captains because
didn't have gold.
One another idea is to do 10 dayes Randoms challenge based on
TeamsWR, just a demo of 10 dayes stats in Randoms, can be used
later in debates again. I have already done it for few days at
70% WR but not 10 dayes in a row. How would the community after
that debate that i have red soup stats for a month long but
before that 10 dayes of super unicum stats, they can't say i had
10 dayes of luck or that i have no knowledge.
No other ideas. Kind of boring. I am thinking again of quitting
the playing totally. But i thank that community insisted me to
return to the game after i quit few months ago. Because we
created more new content, also won 1 million challenge from the
community, documented Sprint 2 Gold Rank 1, and other things.
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Re: Contests chat
By: ency Date: November 2, 2024, 4:27 pm
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On this season i forgot to play on the 1st day, so i played on
the 2nd Day evening 4 battles, and on 3rd day 52 battles,
totalling 4+52=56 battles for BR1.
I used T8 Haru-line DD only.
I usually need ca 40 battles to complete Bronze, but this time
56 which is much more than usual.
I saved the screenshots still like always, later good to look
and rememeber, and maybe use in debates if needed. The
TeamsWR=57% this time.
HTML https://imgur.com/TjTDNyw
HTML https://imgur.com/3KtXxUX
HTML https://imgur.com/t7g9zuk
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Re: Contests chat
By: Hanuman Date: November 4, 2024, 5:46 am
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Season 20 Sprint 1 started on 31-oct, and by today on 4-nov i
have reached Silvers Rank 3. So, it probably goes typically to
Gold league during Sprint 1 but won't reach the R1, and will be
again Sprint 2 GR1.
Silvers have already nice clear higher playerbase than Randoms,
the Rankeds filtering system works well.
In Silvets i got 3 reports in a row in battles because someone
in didn't like that i don't go whete Wows community goes on
maps, i went to the middle not to caps, and obviously performed
well compared to reporters.
Popular ships are the new secondaries oriented BBs, and all
radars except Alaska, nowadays it is not popular anymore. I use
Shima to speed up the progress and little bit Halland. The
latter one is tricky to use, but still fine. It has a premium
brother with radar, i think it is called Smaland. The latter one
is more efficent little bit because of the radar button, but in
general the same, that radar doesn't help much.
I bought T9 DD Black, and have entertained in Randoms little
bit, and will perhaps use in Golds later when the captain gets
radio. It can kill very easily enemy DDs, and ultra slow torps
are entertaining. I think it is a good investment for DD
players. I would get 1 T10 Sub to my fleet and nothing else.
The StarTrek game mode is like always in Novembers very good
entertainment, and gives lot of credits, like 10 minutes gives
1m credits. But it is quite boring after few days playing.
First time i saw in Silvers one player having
effectivevplaystyle with T10 Delny, lot of luck for him as well,
he torped Shima for example as a rare luck, but also others, i
havent seen before such good/lucky gameplay, i would say good. I
am not sure, but he can probably finish Golds with it. I
probably could not, because really risky ship.
On this season i do more star saving methods, for example if i
see a loosing score i go immediately 2km range from enemies and
torp them devastativly, gives me a star save often and saves the
time in a loosing battle.
The Meta is as always in Rankeds: Subs inefficent, harmless and
rare, CVs effective in only very experienced hands, mainly smoke
setting CVs, radar cruisers and new tech tree BBs, and all kind
of DDs, the ones with bad concealment more unpopular. Caps don't
matter in Rankeds still, and the community doesn't still
comprehend it, fine for me, i can adopt and still progress. I
never go to Easycaps, recent thousands battles not even once. On
every map i have known locations and one 2 maps almost always a
Bait smoke. The community obviously doesn't understand the
baiting idea and complains often. Recent new planes cruiser
Hilder is very inefficent and rare. Buff maos with radars and/or
CVs the most difficult.
Rankeds is quite entertaining, will continue to play the game
still, but getting from time to time a thought to quit still.
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Re: Contests chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 14, 2024, 1:43 am
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A debator from the Devstrike forum.
He made Sprint yesterday 10 Bronze Battles at the last day of
Sprint 1, or maybe even it was already Sprint 2 first day.
Probably he got Bronze Rank 6 thanks to those 10 battles.
His statements and believes are based on those 10 battles data,
and on his overall RankedsTeamsWR.
He believes that his 10 battles prove that he is better than me,
and his other believes.
I can debunk all that on next post, but first i post also
example Rankeds data, i don't have 10 battles Session, but 20
battles and 50 battles session, those are as fine.
I suggest even to plan together a next Season Rankeds battle,
where we try to complete Bronze at the same day, so we get even
more comparable data.
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His Rankeds data:
HTML https://www.devstrike.net/topic/5380-well-i-guess-i-ran-ranked-for-nothing/
HTML https://na.wows-numbers.com/player/1000771904,Type_93/
HTML https://imgur.com/PGeMFTI
HTML https://imgur.com/o5AmFVH
My Rankeds Data:
HTML https://wows-numbers.com/player/681465583,encyclopedia2/progress/?type=rank
HTML https://imgur.com/pPtt7Jc
HTML https://imgur.com/yPYHfwT
HTML https://imgur.com/KldlLrL
HTML https://wows.createaforum.com/currently-active-games/ranked-battles-season-19/msg1886/#msg1886
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Re: Contests chat
By: Chaplain1 Date: November 14, 2024, 2:17 am
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As the pictures above prove, he made 10 Rankeds battles at
TeamsWR=70% and his overall RankedsTeamsWR=55% and his best
Rankeds Season Rank=22 which should correspond to Bronze Rank 5
or so.
As the pictures above prove, i made 20 Rankeds battles at
TeamsWR=75% in Golds few days ago and on current Bronze 3 days
in a row at around 60% to complete the Bronze, and my overall
RankedsTeamsWR=49% and my best Rankeds Season sprint 2 Rank=1
which corresponds to Gold Rank 1.
1. His 10 Bronze battles at 70% is not better than my 20 Golds
battles at 75%. Because Sprint 1 Golds is not easier than
Bronze, and 75% is bigger than 70%. If you want you can also say
that 20 battles is bigger than 10 which is also more accurate,
and if he had tried to increase to 20 battles then his 70% would
have probably dropped to 60%. That demoes that his 10 battles
demo at 70% is worse than my demo of 75%. He surely likes to
deny that fact, and title my 75% as a luck and his 70% as not
luck. Such denial is his issue.
2. My current Sprint 1 Bronze example data show 3-4 days in a
row at around TeamsWR=60% and battle quantity is ca 120 for
those days. Sure his 70% is bigger than those 60% but if he
would increase 10 battles to 120 then he would as well get
around 60%. That makes his and my Bronze WR equal. I have
somewhere done Bronze league at 70% as well with ca 30+ battles,
but i can't find it now. So, he does not demo any betetr
performance in Bronze than me, or if you like then say that we
performed both at Blue level in Bronze.
3. He used premium ships while i didn't and don't use any
premiums and no flags. That is fine, but if you like equal
comparisons then use techtree like me.
4. He has not achieved Gold Rank 1 at all, while i have in
sprint 2, which makes his skills lower in my skill measuring
standpoints, i don't value any TeamsWR and am sure i can
outperform his skills any time, you can already see above points
where my 60% and 75% demos are not worse than his 70% 10 battles
demo.
5. He believes in TeamsWR like Wows commnuity which suggests
that TeamsWR shows skills and how the player can perform. Well,
if you see my 4 days in a row above at 60% rate then that
differs fro mthe overall TeamsWR which is 49%. That demos
clearly that the overall TeamsWR does not correspond at all to
the skills. There is no luck in those planned 120 battles at
around 60% WR there, no carrying, also there is no luck in those
20 battles at 75% either. If a 49% player got a luck he would
perform at 49+5=54% WR. That all together debunk totally TeamsWR
value and the belief behind it. It demos that TeamsWR=49% player
performs at 60-75% TeamsWR, while another player at TeamsWR=55%
perform at ca 60-70%. So, a low WR player outperforms a higher
WR player. That clearly debunks all TeamsWR believes, all
believes that the debator has higher skills than me, etc. Just
his numbers "60-70%, Rank 5" are worse than my numbers "60%-75%,
Rank 1". And just my 60-75% numbers debunk my overall 49%, and
debunk any luck belief.
6. So, he loses this debate with his 10 battles experiemnt. He
didn't demo 75% there, but i did, go and demo 75%, go and demo
Sprint 2 Gold Rank 1, go and demo 120 battles at ca 60% during 4
days. We can arrange a proper competition for such debative
contest and i offer money if you win. Looking the data above i
am 100% sure you cannot perform at my skill level. And my data
debunks totally Wows commnuity belief in TeamsWR and any
opinions on it. Just 49% and 60% percent are different, there is
no debate in that.
So all his beleives were debunked. He didn't perform better than
me, his belief that TeamsWR shows skills was debunked.
come and debate the opposite, and let's arrange another contest
if you like.
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Re: Contests chat
By: wows Date: November 14, 2024, 4:04 am
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The debater says he proved his point with his 10 battles.
HTML https://www.devstrike.net/topic/5380-well-i-guess-i-ran-ranked-for-nothing/
I say i debunked all his points. I ask what did he prove exactly
in his opinion? Did he orove that 70% WR is higher than my 75%?
No. Did he orove that he has more skills? No. Di he prove that
WR matters anything? No.
Did i prove that he was wrong and offered him even money if he
can prove anything he belives in? Yes. Did i debunk all his
points? Yes. Do i have more skilks than him and can outplay him
at any time? Yes. Does he dare to try to compete to me and
debate on any topics? No. Did i say anything wrong? No. Show
which statement is wrong?
What does my demos prove? They prove that overall WR is
meaningless, it proves that i perform better than the opponent,
it proves that thete is no luck and no carry illusions. What
does the opponent 10 battle demo prove? It proves he can perform
totally different way than his average WR shows and that nakes
WR meaningless, it proves he can demo Blue WR in Bronze like me,
but not at 75% like me.
So, he stays in his debunked believes, and i stay mine and any
time he is welcomed to prove any his or Wows community believes,
any time he and Wows community can come to compete and get
money.
His and Wows community would respond typically that overall
numbers matter, and all others not. I respond then that why did
you demo then at all 10 battles if they don't matter?
If overall matters anything then prove it matters, show that
overall corresponds to my examples of 75% and 60%. If you
believe that it is good to be all the year long at high rate,
then this is your belief about entertainment, but it has nothing
to do with skills, skills are the 60-75% demos and Gold Rank 1,
and those skills can be demostrated any time and those skills
obviously outplay his skills.
Good luck.
#Post#: 2073--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contests chat
By: wows Date: November 20, 2024, 11:45 am
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First version of the Leaderboard:
1. Choose a contest type, like T10 DD Halland 1 Battle.
Make exactly 1 battle with it, and not more, play other ships
after it. Submit to the forum your request for verification. A
moderator looks your Stats page and confirms your result and
puts to the Top listing in the leaderboard. The leaderboard is
sorted as: WR, PR, damage. Obviously it should be WR=100% to fit
into the sorted leaderboard, and then the PR value determines
your position.
2. Choose a contest T10 DD Halland 3 Battles. Do exactly 3
battles per day with it and later play with other ships. Submit
for verification. Obviously again the Top listing Top part
contains only sessions where WR=100%, which means you team won
all 3 battles in a row. If you fail to get 3 battles in a row
then try another ship or try tomorrow again.
3. Afyer you have submitted 3 Battles Session you can try next
days 5 battles contest or immediately 10 or 15 battles contests.
If the leaderboard is young then you fit to Top 10 easily even
if you don't get WR=100%. But obviously sooner or later the Top
listing gets contestants who manage to show even 15 winning
battles in a row.
4. You can submit many times to the same contest. One reason is
that the PR value changes in time, it is a comparision number
between you and the playerbase. If playerbase in the whole game
gets better, then your PR drops. Also for new ships the PR value
is therefore tricky.
5. Firstly i suggest such categories:
5.1. For each ship sessions of 1 battle, 3, 5, 10, 15.
5.2. A general tier category, like T10 any ships at 1, 3, 5, 10,
15 battles session.
5.3. A tier category. Like any ship type from T8. A ship type
category in a tier. Like T8 cruisers.
5.4. A mixed category. Where you can choose any T8 ships.
5.5. A radar cruisers category.
5.6. Rankeds Bronze R1 category.
5.7. A highest damage category.
Later can be added other more unique categories. At the start it
is enough to do sessions of 5 battles etc.
It is fine to try some days with one ship only 5 battles, and
next day repeat. Meanwhile you can play with other ships too,
but every category can be tried only ones, because the Stats
date column shows the results for each day for verification.
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