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       #Post#: 1242--------------------------------------------------
       Contests chat
       By: wows Date: May 23, 2023, 2:45 pm
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       Here we talk which contests we plan to do.
       Some general rules.
       1. contest does not prove any opinions. For example if the TOP 6
       contestant says that 2+2 is 5 then contestand TOP 4 can't say
       that TOP 6 is wrong because he has lower TOP result. The contest
       result has nothing to do with opinions humans have in their
       life. The contest does not measure knowledge very clearly but in
       a way yes. For example Who completes the Bronze with 200 batles
       usually don't have the small Knowledges and have slower fingers
       than those who compelte between 30-60 battles. But al lbetween
       30-60 battles have usually equal knowledge, jsut some have
       perhaps quicker internet or thinner fingers etc, but they al
       llist the same amount of theoretical knowledge. So, if one
       really insist in measuring who is more smart, then there is no
       such, but some are skillful, quicker fingers etc- go ahead and
       enjoy that truth if you like.
       2. you agree by saying " i agree" with the rules, including the
       previous point about opinions.
       3. all participiants will get a prize.
       Example of the contest. Play games in Rankeds at day number 1
       until you get Bronze Rank 1 aka Silver Rank 10. It takes between
       15-50 battles usually. Provide screenshots that show the
       quantity of battles done o nthe 1st day. The TOP is formed by
       the quantity of battles. This is 1 example, we can do other
       examples.
       Register your self to the contest and forum. also isolated
       players can talk about it here adequately.
       #Post#: 1878--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: Chaplain1 Date: September 4, 2024, 7:41 am
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       In this topic we chat during the competition, and in the
       competition main topic we post results and have a TOP listing.
       I show you my budget and ship choice on the picture.
       If i get more credits somehow then i will buy out a T8 Japanese
       DD and use it.
       I don't use any premiums on the picture because those are not
       allowed.
       I don't use any signals but you may use if you have because
       those are allowed.
       I have a 20 skills Japanese premium captain and a 21 skills UK
       premium captain, plus few standard UK and Japanese 16-19 skills
       captains and 500 gold. So i try to move them with the inbudget
       500 gold if needed later to T10 ships, T6-T8 have already
       captains in and ready.
       Which ship choices you have and which ships will you use?
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       #Post#: 1879--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: wows Date: September 4, 2024, 8:53 am
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       Playing a lower rank ship has an advantage to get more easily
       the Save the Star possibility because lower tier ships get more
       experience points than higher tier ships.
       So, maybe it is wiser to use T6 ships and not T7. What do you
       think? I don't even have any T7 ships in my choices but if you
       have then think about which is more efficient for you, R6 or T7.
       Also, if you have time then practice your T6 contest ships
       already today in Randoms.
       Can you predict how popular will be CVs in all 3 leagues? I
       think that T6 Cvs are very harmless and weak, so they won't be
       very popular, but maybe i am wrong, what do you predict?
       I still don't know which premiums will be popular in Bronze,
       what do you think?
       Even if you don't plan to take part of the contest and follow
       the rules, and play still with premiums, then you can still post
       your results to this topic.
       This is a general chat here, we talk everything related to that
       Rankeds season.
       #Post#: 1880--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: Hanuman Date: September 4, 2024, 9:21 am
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       It is an honor to compete on the 1st day because it has the most
       highest skill level.
       I have always seen much more skillful players on the 1st Bronze
       day and you can't experience that feature on next days/weeks
       anymore. I am lucky to have a day off tomorrow so i can enjoy
       the most difficult play, the more difficult the more accurate
       results you get to measure your skills.
       Like always the Day number 2 is impossible for silver league
       because not enough players. So we usually skip the 2nd day
       totally, but the day 3 is again good because it is difficult.
       And next days and weeks after that is easier again, but not so
       enjoyable therefore.
       A smart competitor who pay for TOP avoids those difficult days,
       but on the 2nd hand he doesn't get invaluable experience and
       accurate results.
       Obviously in 6 players MMs you dont use any too specialized
       ships like T8 Japanese DD Asashio which has only BB/CV torps and
       the weakest guns in T8 because you jsut don't have enough
       targets among 6 enemy players plus in Rankeds mostly guns
       matter, not torpedo DDs. Unless you are a very advanced player
       who enjoyes the most challenging ships. We should give a special
       prizes to those who manage to complete leagues with the current
       most inefficient ships. What do you think?
       #Post#: 1884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: Chaplain1 Date: September 4, 2024, 12:53 pm
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       Wows commnuity seems to suggest to buy Anti Detonation flags.
       They cost 2.4m credits to get 20 pieces.
       You need ca 50 battles to complete the Bronze league, so you can
       double the amount of credits to 5 million.
       Do you agree with Wows commnutiy that it is wise to buy those
       and get credits for those, or not?
       If you don't buy those then it means you disagree with Wows
       commnuity. It is totally fine to disagree with the debunked
       commnuity, i never buy any signals at all, i sell imemdiately.
       But what about you?
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       #Post#: 1885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: ency Date: September 4, 2024, 1:04 pm
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       i plan to donate my victory gold to the player that uses must
       difficult ships. Like german Elbing line ships or russian line
       ships.
       Do you agree that such donation is good?
       In my opinion it is good because i don't anyway like premium
       ships and i have enough ships already that i like.
       The only ship i want to have more is the T11 Japanese DD
       Yamagiri, but gold doesn't help to get it, only credits.
       Do you agree if we give 1 random contestant also a prize, like
       5k gold, and we use a random lottery system to find out who that
       is?
       If you disagree then tell why.
       #Post#: 1887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: ency Date: September 5, 2024, 1:13 pm
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       I started Bronze challenge right in the morning and made many
       breaks between, so it ended up at ca 6pm resulting ca 8h playing
       duration.
       At first i tried to use the UK T6 DD Icarus but i lost most
       battles and finished using it at the battle number 5. It just
       felt that such ship is not efficient in Tier 6-7.
       I moved to my last option which is T6 Japanese Hatsuharu which
       is the Kitakaze line ship, and i have there 21 points premium
       captain with radio, i somehow felt it is the right choice for
       such Tier 6-7 MM. In such low tiers like 6-7 everything is very
       slow, ships are slow and torps and guns are slow too, so it was
       quite difficult if you mostly play in T0. I saw few radar ships,
       many premiums, but i can't say which ship was really OP compared
       to others. In my opinion premium German T6 T-61 was quite
       overpowered, also premium T7 radar cruiser Atlanta and few
       similar radar ships, and that's it, even those were quite equal
       to standard ships, so i can't see much overpowered ships. The
       1st day of Bronze have always quite strong players, so i enjoyed
       obviously to see decent opponents.
       Typically 3-3 splits, 3 to left and 3 to right, i saw few 2-4
       splits, but never 1-5 or 0-6 splits. The maps were old known
       maps, nothing new to old players.
       Few totally wrong positioning, like going to a very long
       timewasting road behind rocks, few total yolo suicides, but in
       major part a very good quality and strong opponents, this is
       always so on the 1st Rankeds day, good difficult battles, strong
       Top playerbase.
       Very few battles had Cvs and subs, as i predicted those are so
       harmless, and specially harmless in T6.
       I didn't do any so called trolling etc, i jsut got 1 phone call
       during 1 battle which resulted to stop for 3 minutes and lose a
       battle, all other battles were good, with good internet, also
       the broken keyboard worked fine.
       I would skip using the Icarus totally now afterwords, but it is
       fine, you must test and tweak during first battles and decide
       your tactics. For me the Japanese DD was the best choice, i
       don't think UK Icarus is suitable for that T6-7 league, but at
       T8 it probably will be.
       I got credits and other stuff during the league compeltition and
       can buy now a Japanese T8 DD, or use the T9 Kita.
       I never went to easycaps, but i couldn't do any of my tactics
       (CV MM escort DDs, pair DDs, no team splits, etc) because there
       wasn't such possiblilities, i just stayed msotly i nthe subgroup
       of 3 ships, mostly i spotted, set smokes, torped, i couldn't
       almost ever use guns because those T6 Jap DD guns are so slow
       and weak.
       I think in T6-T7 battles just use a ship you feel comfortable
       in, obviously an advanced ship type would be my suggestion, but
       primitive types can do fine as well if you feel fine them them.
       My results are fine, they are always like that around TeamsWR
       60%, i rememeber only 1 time i did at 70%.
       Obviously T8 Silver category will be more difficult because
       there you have more OP ships.
       5+33 battles is my typical result, i always get around 40.
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       Re: Contests chat
       By: ency Date: September 5, 2024, 1:56 pm
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       Budget change during the Bronze challenge.
       From 500 gold to the 1100 gold, that means i can move 2 times
       captains now.
       That is why it rewards to play Rankeds compared to Randoms, you
       get Gold, Steel etc. Why to play Randoms at all?
       and if there is even a contest like here for Rankeds where ca
       50k gold is given out, then what's the point to play Randoms at
       all?
       Is there any tactics etc you use in Randoms at all? No, there
       isn't. So, if you are not a total beginner and not grinding
       ships, then why you play that Randoms at all?
       Me and other debators i have seen here they totally ignore
       Randoms, they play mostly Rankeds, and after 6pm few Clanss.
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       [quote author=Chaplain1 al Dente link=topic=222.msg1878#msg1878
       date=1725453670]
       Which ship choices you have and which ships will you use?
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       [/quote]
       #Post#: 1889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: Chaplain1 Date: September 5, 2024, 4:52 pm
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       What do you think, should we make an additional prize pool for
       TOP 3 who first complete the leagues as well?
       Anyway i really suggest you take part from such competitions and
       this one as well, in my opinion it is much more interesting than
       to play Randoms chaotically.
       I try tomorrow evening to start Silver challenge and plan to
       finish during the weekend.
       Good luck everyone!
       #Post#: 1890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Contests chat
       By: Hanuman Date: September 6, 2024, 5:37 am
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       In T8-9 the difficulty is radar cruisers, they have concealment
       and radar range almost equal, so one you spot them they turn
       radar on and you get some damage in. Usually not much damage but
       still you loose 30-50% of health which makes next DD duels
       difficult with such low Hp. Also radar+smoke Dds like Black are
       a big threat. Smaller threat are hydro Dds, mainly UK and German
       ones. The smallest risk is to get outspotted by a Dd. I believe
       I will try UK hydro Dd and a Japanese Dd. The tactics is to try
       to manage the mentioned risks.
       I don't ever go near easy caps so I often meet radars on
       difficult caps. If most ships go to easy cap then I join them of
       course, the group size of 3 is the minimum I stay with.
       Mostly I spot the difficult area or the middle area.
       Which tactics do you plan to do?
       Also I suggest take part from our competition, it is much more
       entertaining and you get a quite fair overview of your skills. I
       am generally on gold level player, but I don't complete the gold
       so easily. So if you want to grade my skills in 10 points range
       then I have ca 8/10 skill level, while those who can't complete
       Silver league are at around 6/10 skill level. It doesn't matter
       which TeamsWR you have in Randoms etc, only a ranking exam type
       competitions tell your skills.
       In my opinion if you manage to complete the Bronze then that is
       already a very strong skillet, in my opinion 70% ate not capable
       to complete it ever.
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