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#Post#: 160--------------------------------------------------
Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: wows Date: July 25, 2022, 1:52 pm
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Wows is not an arcade game. There has never been any adequate
explanation why it could be arcade.
People can't even define the old term Arcade.
Go to google and see what arcade looks like:
HTML https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=arcade+games
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: Hanuman Date: March 29, 2023, 1:18 am
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Wows community likes wikipedias and wikipedia itself debunks the
illusional belief that wows is an arcade game type. Wows is not
an arcade game because it does not accept coins.
[quote]
All arcade video games are coin-operated...
[/quote]
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcade_video_game
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: wows Date: April 26, 2023, 12:06 pm
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An example how the community believe that Wows is an Arcade
game:
[quote]
[quote]Karasu_Browarszky said:
The level of complexity in this game exceeds that of an arcade
game. We've touched on this before, and we disagree about it.
Nonetheless, my view is that an arcade game has to have a
relative fast learning curve. The complexity in this game
actually exceeds what you would find in a simulation game. It's
just less enjoyable[/quote].
Again. Thats just your Old Fashioned Idea of what an Arcade Game
should be.
Do You know just how Simple Anno 1600 is compared to Anno 1800 ?
lol
Hell. Thinking back on it. Command and Conquer Tiberian Conflict
was called an RTS back then. Nowdays its Complexity would barely
Qualify as a Minigame.
[/quote]
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/169384-my-last-day-in-world-of-warships/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-4382110
Let's make the upper dialogue shorter:
A: Wows is not an Arcade game because it is more complex than
Arcade coin machine games.
B: You have wrong and old definition for the term Arcade.
So, the A says truth and truth happens very rarely in the
debunked community. He says that Arcade games are simplistic.
Yes, it is true, just look those old coin machines which had
cartoon-like graphics, no teams connected to the internet, no
precise controls like computer mouse, no human opponents, the
coin games didn't require any forecasting how the opponent human
would act, there was just a dummy alorithm your opponent. Etc,
etc, obviously all that coin games aka Arcade games had was much
more simplistic and primitive than computer games todays between
humans connected to internet. So, the opponent A says correctly
that Wows is not an Arcade game because it is not as simplistic
as coin games were. And his opponent B didn't prove that Wows is
still very simplistic or requires coins.
The A said the truth but he could have used a stronger argument:
the official definition of the term Arcade says a game must
require coins or look like the coin games. Does Wows require
coins or look like old coin machine games? No.
The B says that there may be a new redefinition of the term.
Well, Wiki doesn't contain a new definition, and WG has not
provided a definition either. So, the B loses because he can't
provide a source which redefines the term. Why should the world
give a new meaning for a historical machine that can't be seen
anymore today anywhere?
The community likes authorities and encyclopedias, so why the
official Wiki doesn't say a new meaning for the word Arcade and
why it does not show Wows logo there?
The A is a rare example in the debunked cult and will be
silenced surely, but he himself has only moved a tiny bit closer
to the truth. He is still 99.3% cult-minded mass-r-a-p-e lover
like his community and forum. But he is awakening and started to
sense 1 aspect of the term definition.
The B seems to give an example how the term Minigame has been
redefined nowadays. Again, provide the proof where it is
redefined? But first stay in the Arcade topic and provide
redefinition links or admit that you and your community has
again been debunked.
Additionally the B seems to say that the meaning of the
Complexity term has i relative, and he has an opinion that some
games are more complex than many others believe. Well, first,
show how is a coin machine more Complex than an internet
computer? A classical understanding of the erm Complexity says
that all internet multiplayer games are more complex than coin
machine single player games because human factor makes endless
amount of moves an opponent can do and thus the game can flow
endless amount of ways whereas single player coin game has a
finite algorithm. In computer science the term Complexity is
also defined more or less on the amount of ways a game can flow,
or how many variables/conditions it has. And Wows has a human
opponents and is therefore always more complex than a single
player game against the so called Computer.
So, that debunks again the Wows community.
A dialogue:
Wows cult: Wows is Argate.
Non-cult: why Arkate wiki page does not have ship logo?
Wows cult: your opinion is wrong because your stats and skin
color are bad. We black list you know, bye bye.
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: wows Date: November 4, 2024, 11:48 am
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The misused term Arcade is abused this way that it is used as an
opposite word to the term Realistic.
Obviously all computer games are not realistic at all, and good
that they are not.
The correct meaning of Arcade is: a coin accepting old video
game machine. Wows does not accept coins, hence is not Arcade.
If you want to describe the level of realism them find other
words, why not to just phrase "quite realistic".
Compared to Warthunder ship game mode the Wows is very very
realistic, and everything else very as well. Compared to other
video games Wows is very very realistic, the water and waves
look almost like real, ships shoot like they shoot in real life,
etc etc.
Absurd is to wish that in Wows torps would swim 20 minutes long
like in real life.
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: wows Date: March 24, 2025, 10:33 am
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If you google "Arcade game meaning" you see that the responses
talk about coin-based Pac-man, and describes such games as
singleplayer games against a computer using cartoon-ish
characters like a pac-man or a fantasy soldier, etc. Multiplayer
Wows does not look anything likePac-man, does not take any coins
in, is not a single player either.
There is no similarities between Pac-man and Wows, hence you
can't even use an unofficial adjective Arcadeish for Wows.
Coop and Ops as single player game modes are little bit similiar
to Pacman because you don't play against humans, but you still
play in a human team which Pac-man never had, and you still have
quite realistic looking objects like ships, waves, sky etc,
while Pacman has fantacy characters that don't exist in reality.
So, Pacman is arcade and arcadeish, but Wows never. And not only
Wows, byt all modern computer games.
There is no place to use the word Arcade in Wows. Not only me
and Googling proves that, but also common nondelusional
reasoning proves.
There is no need to anything to try to look like Pacman and not
to look like it, no need to look realistic either, the gosl is
to entertain, and obviously appearantly human minds adds some
ideas from the real life to entertainments, but that happens
only as unevitable thing, there is no goal and no need to be
realistic or arcadeish. The goal is to entertain.
There is nothing arcadeish in Wows. Arcadeish=Pacmanish.
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: Hanuman Date: March 24, 2025, 11:20 am
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Wows community uses a term Arczde Elements in the meaning of
"Not realistic/historic":
HTML https://www.devstrike.net/topic/6404-apparently-some-nerfs-are-coming-fr-the-panamerican-bb-line/page/3/#findComment-104256
So, as already proved many times and ways the Wows and Arcade
have nothing in common.
Play 1 game in Pacman or Asteroids etc to sense what is the
meaning of Arcade. Then play Wows and sense the clear
difference. Multiplayer human-versus-human are never anything
that Arcade means, no arcadish nature, no arcade elements.
Unrealistic elements like a drawn circle cap with letter A does
not occure in real life but in many games because there is no
goal to copy reality and no possibilty to copy, and no need to
title such non real life occuring things as Arcade elements.
There is no need to ever measure how much non real aspects are
in any game.
And such calculation is fundamentally imposdible because real
life has endless amount of elements. For example Wind,
Earthqakes, fish, etc, you can end up that Wows and all other
games have 0.0003% of elements that exist in real world. You can
end up that Wows is 99.993% as real life, just pick your
elements amount which you like.
So, there is no place for Arcade term, and no way to measure it.
It is hilarious how Wows community is totally delusional about
Arcadeness and other things.
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: wows Date: March 24, 2025, 11:48 am
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You can google that in real life loading 1 torpedo tube takes
long long time, not 1 minute like in Wows. Even your own
imagination and common sense should tell that, beside the
google. It is not a lightweight bow arrow that you just take
from a bag in seconds.
It takes surely minimum of 10 minutes to reload a torpedo tube,
and 15 times more time to reload 15 torps, and later the aiming
takes long time as well.
So, computer games with torpedos like Wows can never do so long
time wasting, and there is no sane goal to even wish they would.
The goal is Entdrtainment.
You can pick plenty of other examples beside the non rezlistic
torpedo example. There is no need to title such non realistic
thing negatively, no need to title as Arcade.
There is nothing Arcadish in Wows, and no need to be realistic
either. If you wish to categorize games by realisticness then
you are as wrong as a restaurant visitor who tries to judge a
restaurang by the paintings on the restaurant walls, talking if
those paintings are original or replicates and even titling the
paintings as Arcade. There is nothing Arcade on such paintings
and on any paintings, and it is totally irrelevant how those
paintings are, and there is nothing Arcadish in Wows and it is
totally irrelevant how realistic anything is there. There is no
sane way to measure nonrealisticness levels in restaurant
psintings and computer games. Thrre is nothing good or bad if
anything is realustic or non realistic on restaurant walls or on
a computer game.
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: Hanuman Date: March 24, 2025, 11:58 am
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The word Arcade means this:
HTML https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8wJ6qi33cnY
Look with both eyes on the video and try to sense what is
Arcade. Does Wows look like this? No? If No, then Wows is not an
Arcade game. Do you see any tiny bits in the Pacman game video
similar to Wows game? Maybe both have a screen, both have moving
colors on the screen, but that irrelevant tiny common thing does
not define as an Arcade element or Arcadeish. Arcade is a single
player game against a computer, Wows Randomz is totally team
based real time game and hence never Arcade/Pacman, and Wows
does not take coins in, and does not have cartoon looking
fantacy characters like round Pacmans but has has clearly real
life looking ships, sea waves, etc.
If your eyes see that Pacman video is totally different than
Wows, then why you keep titling Wows as arcadish?
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Re: Wows is NOT an arcade game
By: Hanuman Date: May 14, 2025, 9:01 am
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Answer to the following 2 questions test:
1. Do you believe that coin based Pacman game machine represents
an arcade game? Yes or no?
2. Do you believe that Wows is an arcade game too like Pacman
is? Yes or no?
If you answered Yes to both questions then you believe that
Pacman and Wows are arcade games. Next, do you see any
differences in those believed 2 Arcade games? For example, does
Pacman screen show anything that occures in real life, like
tanks, ships, trees, clouds, water? No? Does Wows have something
that mimics real life, like ships, trees, water? Yes? So, you
call both games as Arcade but they are totally different, one
shows things that has nothing relating to reality, just
imaginary cartoon Pacman characters, while the other has things
that makes every human mind to recognize real life objects, like
ships and water and fish, and additionally humans can even say
which historical ship or real life nature object it is. So,
totally 2 diffetent games but you call them both Arcade. And one
even takes coins in. Do you comprehend that you call 2 totally
different things as similar things if you label them with the
same term? Do you see any contradiction in your believes?
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