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#Post#: 1182--------------------------------------------------
How to measure skills
By: Hanuman Date: March 30, 2023, 2:46 am
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Teams have winning rates in Random Battles but those rates have
nothing to do with a player skills in Sprint 1 Rankeds Gold
league.
The same way your country's average salary has nothing to with
your self-employed average income in your business sector in
summer times.
It is mentally unhealthy to be obsessed with stats and skills in
entertainment.
If one wants personally to test his skills then there are some
Exams.
1. Count how many battles you need on the Season's 1st day to
complete Bronze keague.
2. Test which is the highest Gold league rank you can get in
Sprint 1.
Both those Exams are fine adequate methods to measure your
skills.
For example, most fail with the Exam 2 because most can't get
into Gold league. Many including me can't complete a league
sometimes at all and do thousands of battles in a league. That
proves that the Exam 2 has no restrictions/ceiling and the most
skillful can just count how few battles it takes to get Rank 1
in gold.
For example, i complete the Bronze on 1st day with ca 40
battles, i complete the Silver with ca 200 battles and most
times i end Sprint 1 with maximum of Gold Rank 5 and most times
i don't complete the Gold league at all and do 5000 battles in
it, rarely i complete the Gold league.
This shows me my skills and has nothing to do with my Random
Battles ratings for my teams. Also the RandomsTeamsWR is
inadequate because people with higher TeamsWR than me do the
above exams often worse than people with lower Stats like me.
For example, if my TeamsWR=42% and i complete Bronze with 40
battles on day 1 and get Sprint 1 Gold Rank 3 then the person
with TeamsWR=55% may complete with 60 battles and never get into
Gold league during Sprint 1.
That evidence proves that TeamsWR are inadequate compared to
those 2 Exams. But there are other factors why teams numbers are
inadequate to measure individual skills. The main factor is that
skills should be measured by a test/exam now and all historical
diplomas are irrelevant.
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Re: How to measure skills
By: Chaplain1 Date: June 22, 2023, 1:20 pm
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Example of an Exam.
The result is: 37. It has always been in all seasons around 40.
We have proved that TeamWR is inadequate and does not show any
skills etc, go ahead and provide your Exam result as i have
provided on all seasons.
Why to call others bad at all but if you want to compare skills
then TeamWR is not adequate and Exam is.
Why you refuce to do the Exam? Stats/TeamWR and Exam are the
numbers that should be in correlation, low Team data should mean
low Exam result. If the correlation does not exist then either
TeamWR or Exam result are wrong, or what? For example, i as
TeamWR 0f around 40% get Exam=37 but person with TeamWR of 50
should get Exam=30 in that case. Just provide your Exam data and
if you don't see the correlation or get worse result than me
while having higher TeamWR then as yourself why so and why to
believe in Stats then.
Some go in debate to the proposal: let's do 1-versus-1 fight to
measure knwledge. This Exam is available for you many seasons,
go and to your results and compare. If you refuce that then ask
yourself why.
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Re: How to measure skills
By: Chaplain1 Date: July 19, 2023, 7:14 am
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Example of Wows commnutiy who comes from nowhere to tell me that
they are 61 or something.
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Re: How to measure skills
By: Hanuman Date: July 21, 2023, 7:18 am
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If you want to measure skills then let's repeat the important
aspects.
1. Wait for the next Rankeds Season and try not to play Rankeds
1-2 days in old season so that the Stats page would show
emptiness in days before and after the Season's first day.
2. On the Sprint 1 first day chose 2-3 standard advanced ship
types which you plan to use on day number 1. For example if the
Rankeds Sprint 1 Bronze is in T10 then chose: sub Balao, a Cv
Midway, a Dd Halland. You can't chose for example such ships: Cv
Immelman, CR Stalingrad, Cr Minotaus. It must be standard
advanced ship types, not primitive types and not premiums.
3. You have Bronze rank 10 in the beginning and play on Sprint 1
first day with the most skilled players using standard advanced
ships. When you reach Rank 1 you stop playing and you won't play
the next day either. You make a screenshot that shows the last
battle date and time with the Ranked skull medal.
4. You also make screenshots from the Stats web page that show
which ships you used on the Season's first day and how many
battles you did. You can make those screenshots on the 2nd day
too.
5. The quantity of battles needed to get Bronze R1 without doing
any qualification battles is the Exam result. And screenshots
prove them.
This is the number or stats that are adequate. Random battles
teams win rate at random days with premium ships in big teams
are not adequate.
Let's repeat that Randoms TeamsWr does not belong to person, but
to big teams of children. Rankeds 1st day in small teams with
advanced standard vehicles against most skillful first day
players show adequately player's skills. If the player makes a
mistake there then the team loses and that's why such data is
adequate. In Randoms against children you can even not make any
moves and your big children team still wins, hence Randoms
TeamWr is not adequate. In Rankeds 1st day if you don't move at
all you lise and Exam result will be a big number.
My Exam result has been always around 40. I don't believe in
wows community TeamsWr and i debunk Wows community if they use
Exam or TeamsWr as an argument. If you want to know your skill
level then i provided the tutorial for you. I myself have
provided that data here in the Wiki plus in the official Wows
forum plus in the registered users area of this forum. I know my
skills or call it my stats or my exam result, it is around 40,
sometimes 37, sometimes 43, it is not anything you see on the
Stats page.
Q1. Why not to measure quantity to get Silver 1 as the measure
of skills?
A1. Because on Sprint 1 first day it takes too long time to get
a battle with Silver league players. The strongest opponents you
feel only first few days, after a week you don't see them and it
becomes easier to win. You can suggest to measure Silver R1 day
quantity on first 3 days etc, but that is a separate topic,
maybe it would work fine, maybe not. At first glance it doesn't
work well because even on day number 2 it takes ages to get a
battle but exams should be short in life. They are like athletes
and students perform shortly the test with 1 day, not 3 days.
Q2. Why to use such complex Exam system and not TeamsWR as we
racist sadistic community has always done?
A2. TeamsWR does not belong to a person and is not adequate. We
have talked about it plenty of times, even inside this current
post above. If you still repeat inadequate things after plenty
of explanations then you are inadequate and your opinions are
wrong. Secondly, why do you need to measure your skills at all
in entertainment? Is it because you are racist and it is popular
in the sadistic cult? I don't ever compare my data in football
and Wows to others, i never do racist behaviour like your
community. The only reason i provide my Exam data is to use it
when debunked community uses TeamsWr as an argument. Providing
as a response number 37 gives a good enlightening hit to them.
Q3. I like Randoms TeamsWR against children with newest OP
premium ships and this makes me feel proud and i feel it is my
winning rate and iq and skills.
A3. Yes, you are like a p-e-d-o-phile who is proud for r-a-p-ing
children. Isn't it the same what you and your community does
with children? I don't support to be proud about such things, it
is against ethics and also irrational because pedo-TeamsWr has
nothing to do with skills.
Q4. I admit that as a true member of Wows community i enjoy most
destroying 8 years old players in Randoms with my OP ships and i
admit that pedos are similar like my community. But don't you
think that a true pedo skill is to show stable long time average
against children rather than doing 1 short exam?
A4. The meaning of exam is to measure quickly human skills. The
meaning of averages is not to measure skills. For example, a
student and athlete do 1 exam 1 day per year and the result
measures their skills. They concentrate on the exam day and show
their best, on next days they don't show such concentration and
athletic form usually. There is no need to do it. Their talent
doesn't disappear anywhere, they repeat it on next year1 day
again, or often if life asks. If you want to measure something
else than skilks, then call it properly. Fir example, call it
like: pedo-stability etc.
Q5. Let's do 1 to 1 duel to measure skills.
A5. I repeat that you and your community are mentally sick if
you want to measure skills all the time. Your community has lost
to me in all your opinions, why do you keep suggesting anything
or giving opinions at all then if everything wows community does
or says has been debunked?
It is not adequate to measure skills against 1 person but
against the most skillful Sprint 1 first day players who use so
called OP ships and other advantages like Mods etc- against them
i feel fine and fair to compete 1 day with Balao or Halland or
Midway with 10 skill captain. That sound an adequate exam
environment to me. But 1 to 1 egosick duel to a random player
does not look adequate.
It is typical teenager style of argumentation to end
argumentation by bare hand boxing to decide whose told more
truth. I am not a member of Wows community and therefore don't
do such inadequate methods. I have offered millions dollars to
you and your community instead and your refusal means you are
afraid of me and wrong.
If you want to measure skills, then do the Exam and compare, but
if you start to use your result later to prove that anything you
say is right because of your number, then i debunk it
immediately, i have already debunked it many times. So, do the
Exam for your own pleasure, not for me. I am not part of your
community and don't share any of your opinions, and your result
won't change it.
#Post#: 1693--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to measure skills
By: Chaplain1 Date: February 16, 2024, 3:05 pm
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Wows commnuity has rejected all Challenges that i have proposed
with money.
I have offered the classical Bronze Challenge for decades, but
also a Gold league challenge because few cult members have
asked.
All have been rejected with the money i offered.
Most times i look Prisoners "Stats" page i see they play with a
1 premium cruiser in Rankeds and nothing else. Maybe that is the
reason they reject because primitive premium vehicles are not
allowed.
#Post#: 2022--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to measure skills
By: Hanuman Date: November 5, 2024, 8:09 am
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If you want to measure skills, you look the stats Web page,
click Rankeds section, then scroll to Rankeds Seasons section,
then look which is the highest rank a person skills were capable
to achieve. Gold league rank numbers are between 10-1, Bronze
something like 24, Silvers have numbers something like 14, the
highest skill is to have rank number 1, which means the person
got Gold R1. Two GR1 Ranking persons can further look in which
Sprint they got it, lower/early Sprint numbers show higher
skills because Sprints 1-2 are called Difficult Sprints, they
have the Top players in the game. It is nearly impossible to
have GR1 during Sprint 1. Two Sprint 2 GR1 players can further
compare which ships were used during that season, the one who
used more honest ship like techtree Shima has more skills than
the one who used premium Z42. If Both Sprint 2 Gold Rank 1
record owners used honest ships, like Shima and Yamato, then
they can next compare who made less battles during the season
and compare TeamsWR for the season, and final step if not much
difference still is to compare who has got GR1 more often in the
history. But usually it is enough to just see Difficult Sprint
GR1 achievement and say generally that both have equal Diamond
certificate level skills. It is totally irrelevant what is the
overall RankedsTeamsWR.
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