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Re: Term: racism
By: Grozogumo Date: March 21, 2023, 1:27 pm
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ok n1gg3r, nice schizo post, can't wait to hear about your death
lol
here's the post you made with actual grammar, do me a favor and
shove a pin needle down your cockhole for every mistake you made
so you understand the sort of mental strain you put on people by
writing shit rants with horrible basic mistakes, subhuman scum.
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In simple words, Racism means that first, you take one random
attribute from a person like skin color, high school grades,
university stats, income, body weight, Indian caste level,
breast size, etc., and secondly, you treat people and their
opinions by their such attributes. For example, if someone has
small breasts and says that 2+2 is 4, then you disagree with
them and say that they are wrong and 2+2 is not four, and they
have small breasts. High school grades, professional athletes
winning rates, and WoWs stats are equal entities for Racism. To
be racist, one should say:
1. Because boxer Mike Tyson has good stats, he will win all
matches today. The reality is that he would lose all battles
today, no matter which stats he has.
2. Because you have low high school grades, you won't be rich
and happy in this life. The reality is the opposite again.
3. You never complete the Bronze Ranked league because you have
low stats. The reality is that most complete Bronze, no matter
which skin color, high school grades, or Wows general stats they
have if they want to.
It is a fact that the Wows community is racist because you see
all the time in the Official forum and in-game chat mentioning
Wows stats. If one says it all the time skin color, then they
would be racist too. Most arguments in the Wows official forum
ended with the racial stats argument. For example, if someone
says that 2+2 is four and he has low historical stats, the whole
community disagrees with him and says he is wrong.
Clan-Prejudice is when at the beginning of the battle, some say,
"oh no, again, that Batja clan." Ship-type Racism is against
subs/CVs. Stats racism is the most famous. People deny so
strongly that they are racist, but most are. Even a person who
doesn't play computer games and is a prime minister is
undoubtedly racist in his mind, but he tries to hide it well.
There are other related terms to explain later; one is
xenophobia. But as we talked, the word has too many titles and
terms, so let's use the word prejudice or Racism.
Humans have made many terms and words and given titles more than
necessary, and they like to redefine the same periods in
different areas. For example, Good has a different meaning in
Wows, bare-knuckle fighting sports, extreme porn, cooking,
music, and general ethics. Also, the term Good is subjective,
meaning that a good player in entertainment is for the most a
person with good communication skills, kind, etc., for most
people, but some people use the phrase with lowercase G in "good
player" as a player who wins most times in an entertainment
game. So, all the titles and terms and not so evident in the
human world and vary in different areas are subjective,
relative, etc., and we define the term Racism here as it appears
in the human mind. In the human mind, things are true and more
accurate than outside the mind/thoughts, where people masquerade
with words as their honest thoughts. On the human mind level,
the term Racism appears when one is prejudiced in their mind,
and it doesn't matter if one says it out and shows it or keeps
it hidden. Racism happens when one treats people by skin color,
breast size, high school stats, Wows stats, money, etc. The same
thing occurs all those times and it is wise to call it the same
term Racism, no need to invent hundreds of different titles
because the low-level happening in the mind is always the same.
Misleading and unnecessary is to use the slang word Toxic even
if someone can define that term, but the reality is that nobody
has been able to determine that and other popular tours. No need
to talk about karma racism, stats shaming, ship-type Racism,
etc.; use the term Racism.
Question 1. Using the lowercase word "racism" is misleading
because it usually means skin color prejudice.
Answer 1. The same is with the lowercase term "good (player),"
which is very popular in the Wows community, and in that case,
the whole Wows community is misleading with his terms and
things. Secondly, we have defined the term Racism in our
Wikipedia and stated that in this forum, we could use it as a
lowercase word "racism" because we don't discuss other kinds of
Racism here in the computer game forum. But we sometimes use the
term with the capital R if we sense it is needed, for example,
in debates. Thirdly, don't you agree that inside humans' minds,
where humans have voices and thoughts, are the more authentic
picture of their intentions, prejudice, values, and ethics,
compared to how they choose to express words and behaviors?
Most agree with that, and we define the term Racism on that
authentic, human-mind level. Your mind raises negative feelings
and thoughts when you see humans with the wrong skin color or
low Wows stats. Those negative emotions and thoughts are the
same no matter if the context/topic is about skin color, Wows
RandomWR, high school grades, etc., the same. The same negative
attitude, and most times, sooner or later, that same negativity
comes out with words and behaviors. It is important to note that
the same negativity against other people occurs in the human
mind, not some kind of different one. The same general attitude
appears that the other person is somehow wrong, worse, or less
than you. Whether it is about breast size, high school grades,
or Wows stats, there is the same negative-looking attitude
toward the other person. No need to use separate terms like
"stats shading" or "skin color racism." It is enough to use the
same time, Racism. Thirdly, it is an effective and enough
ethical method to use spicy words like Racism if the situation
is extreme. For example, if a town has too many drug addicts,
then it is acceptable and practical to use, for example, more
spicy terms from Christianity, etc., when healing the situation.
For example, it is not ethical to call addicts idiots, but
calling them salves of Satan or demonized minions are pretty
honest and acceptable and work effectively by curing the
situation by giving a more negative meaning to the problem and
hence keeping new potential addicts more aware of the problem,
etc. So, it is fine, enough ethical, and practical to use terms
like Racism, Cult, and Minion, and if you compare those terms
with the Wows community's everyday words like Idiots, etc., then
you see that the term Racism is very innocent and should not be
taken as misleading/unethical word. That debunks the
argument/question.
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Re: Term: racism
By: test Date: March 21, 2023, 1:47 pm
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It is not respectable to express yourself with star-symbols
because nobody knows what you mean by those symbols, yet you are
here in a potentional dialogue, so express yourself clearly
without stars.
For example, you can use the minus-symbol "-" to represent words
that are prohibited in this forum.
For example, write: r-a-p-e with minus symbols and everyone can
understand you, but without those minus symbols it looks 4
snowflakes like "****".
Can you chose 1 main statement from your text and confirm that
you understand the debating rules?
The same for the word "n1gg3r". what is it? A neo-germany
dialect or what? Try to express in simple clear English. Say
nigga instead. But the rule is not to use any of such words, not
the version with numbers inside andn ot the clear version. Do
you want i clarify the rules?
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Re: Term: racism
By: Grozogumo Date: March 21, 2023, 1:52 pm
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Title: Distinguishing Racism from Prejudice in Online Gaming
Communities: A Call for Precision and Context
In discussions about prejudice and discrimination within online
gaming communities, it is essential to acknowledge the
historical context of terms like "racism" and differentiate
between various forms of prejudice. While some may argue that
using the term "racism" to describe instances of discrimination
in gaming trivializes the gravity of racial discrimination in
society, a more accurate and contextualized understanding of
these issues can facilitate more effective conversations and
solutions.
Historical Context: Racism has a specific historical context
tied to systemic oppression and discrimination based on race or
ethnicity. When using the term to describe other forms of
prejudice, such as those related to gaming statistics or ship
types, there is a risk of downplaying the severe impact of
racial discrimination in society. It is crucial to maintain this
context in mind when discussing issues within online gaming
communities.
Differentiating Discrimination and Prejudice: In addressing
various forms of discrimination and prejudice, it is essential
to use appropriate terminology that accurately reflects the
specific issues at hand. For example, using "gaming-related
prejudice" or "discrimination based on in-game attributes" could
provide more precise descriptions and avoid potential confusion
or misinterpretation.
Overgeneralization: Applying the concept of racism to various
forms of prejudice in online gaming communities may lead to
overgeneralization. This broad application could hinder
understanding of the unique issues affecting different groups of
people within these communities, ultimately undermining efforts
to address and combat these problems. Instead, it is crucial to
recognize and discuss the specific forms of prejudice that arise
in gaming environments.
Trivializing Real Issues: By using the term "racism" to describe
forms of prejudice within online gaming communities, there is a
risk of trivializing real-world issues related to race,
ethnicity, and discrimination. To address this concern,
discussions must acknowledge the broader social and political
implications of racism and avoid focusing too narrowly on online
gaming communities.
In summary, to maintain the historical significance and gravity
of the term "racism," it is essential to differentiate between
various forms of prejudice within online gaming communities.
Using more specific terms to describe these different forms of
discrimination can lead to more accurate and meaningful
discussions, ultimately supporting efforts to address real-world
issues associated with racism. By recognizing the importance of
precision and context in these conversations, we can foster a
more inclusive and understanding society, both online and
offline.
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Re: Term: racism
By: Hanuman Date: March 21, 2023, 1:58 pm
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It takes some tiem to go through al lyour input but it is wise
anyway not to rush.
So, i respond soon.
I greet you because you number your questions, this looks nice
and clear.
But i still feel too many opinions in one single post, i try to
take the numbered first opinion first, or latest ones.
You can input more meanwhile into this topic.
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Re: Term: racism
By: Chaplain1 Date: March 21, 2023, 2:12 pm
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[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1133#msg1133
date=1679423235]
ok n1gg3r, nice schizo post, can't wait to hear about your death
lol
here's the post you made with actual grammar, do me a favor and
shove a pin needle down your cockhole for every mistake you made
so you understand the sort of mental strain you put on people by
writing **** rants with horrible basic mistakes, subhuman scum.
[/quote]
1. There is no need to use the word "Ok" in the beginning of
your text just like other rudimental words: Hello, Sir, Bye,
Regards, Lol.
We have explained somewhere why such words are prohibited. The
word "n1gg3r"/nigga and other such name calling prohibited as
well and we have a rule written about it somewhere. The
explanation is very simple that such noise-words have no
rational goal, they may have some emotional goal but we don't
decide the truth by emotions, hair color or other such
irrelevant things here. No need to try to flirt with judges. Be
like you are in a court, a good lawyer. Do you understand how to
act adequately liek a lawyer? Yes or no?
2. You seem to understand what is the Message here otherwise you
wouldn't construct a debate here, yet you claim that my english
is too difficult to read. Your such controversial claim has no
value therefore and my suggestion is to understand that we here
don't call anyone niggas etc and are not racist and not
corrupted and te lthe truth- isn't that a more important thing
compared to a good gramamr and nice fonts? Because you agreed to
debate here and demonstrate you can understand my english then i
only ask you to be adequate, a good monk and a good lawyer, and
it is fine if your english is not so good. If i don't understand
your english i ask you to clarify. Can you not violate our
adequate rules and don't mislead with snowglake symbols?
[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1133#msg1133
date=1679423235]
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[quote]In simple words, Racism means ...[/quote]
[/quote]
I understand now that you copypasted wikipedia text and it is
not your written text.
So, what exactly is your statement then? Ok, i proceed to read
your next post instead then.
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Re: Term: racism
By: Chaplain1 Date: March 21, 2023, 2:24 pm
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You posted a text and i couldn't found it from the internet but
i remember that i have seen it in a random article/opinion once
before.
So, the text talks about the term Racism.
Well, this forum talks about such term as well and also other
articles tal kabout such word and they all define differently.
Can you say shortly what is your statement? Is your statement
that my definition about the term Racism is wrong? Yes or no? If
yes, then i take the other part of your text as a proof for your
statement and try to make it shorter next and we can start a
debate. Or do you have a different statement/message?
[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1137#msg1137
date=1679424761]
Title: Distinguishing Racism from Prejudice in Online Gaming
Communities: A Call for Precision and Context
...
In summary, to maintain the historical significance and gravity
of the term "racism," it is essential to differentiate between
various forms of prejudice
[/quote]
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Re: Term: racism
By: Hanuman Date: March 21, 2023, 3:26 pm
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[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1137#msg1137
date=1679424761]
Title: Distinguishing Racism from Prejudice in Online Gaming
Communities: A Call for Precision and Context
[/quote]
1. The title seems to redefine the general term Racism for
entertainment games sector. In Wows there are other such
examples as well, for example they redefien the terms Good/Bad
and "Good player" to be totally different from general world
menaing of those adjective words. I suggest that change the
title and replace the "Online Gaming Communities" to "racist
Wows community". A good person is who enjoys playing billiards
and football with friends and never mentions any Stats. Mentally
unstable and obsessive people take an entertainment game to
oseriously and crave to win or even have high numbers somewhere
and judge people by their skin color. So, Wows community has a
totally redefined terms and i suggest you stay only in the Wows
community context and change your text title.
[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1137#msg1137
date=1679424761]
it is essential to acknowledge the historical context of terms
like "racism"
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I disagree. I say the opposite: the history and authorities and
hair color etc are irrelevant aspects compared to a true proof
here and now. Life and science have evovled so there history is
irrelevant.
[quote author=Joewari da al Dente link=topic=197.msg1137#msg1137
date=1679424761]
Historical Context: Racism has a specific historical context
tied to systemic oppression and discrimination based on race or
ethnicity.
[/quote]
I don't understand why you mention the word "Context" in that
paragraph. It look like a mistake to me and i suggest to remove
it or clarify why you use that word. Just say that in recent
history racism meant this and that and don't say that in the
context of recent history something was so and so. There is
nothing in the context of a dead passed time period. You can
talk about historical period/era but not about historical
context. You can have a History context, Math context, but not
historical context.
Secondly, that text is wrong because it seems to mean only the
recent history. Racism and all other human aspects have existed
always and history just talks about recent ones. Human nature
has not changed and in the human mind there has always been the
same basic transaction that there are today, and today some have
been titled as Racism but titling something does not mean that
it borns when the title is given, no, it has always been there
and the title misleads because it does not look into deeper
human mind where you see that the same transactions occur when
judging by various aspects, so no need to pick up only a skin
color judgement and title it, wiser is to title everything as
Racism and no need for other terms.
So, i don't agree with your text because of those 2 arguments.
I don't think that it is wise to continue with the remaining
part of your text.
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Re: Term: racism
By: Moderator1 Date: March 22, 2023, 2:57 am
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The result: the racist community looses.
The debator copypasted materials but we have always debunked all
3rd party materials and prohibit those. He ignored the counter
arguments.
He is a perfect specimen for Wows community.
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