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popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Hanuman Date: January 22, 2023, 8:05 am
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Popular slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc.
1. Debunked: MM is unfair.
MM is never 100% fair because:
1) both teams have different ships
2) both teams have different captain setups
3) both teams have different internet speed and player skills
There is no holy book that defines clearly which amount of
unfairness is fair but one can say that the MM is never 100%
fair.
Life doesn't have identical objects. Even 2 metal coins and
atoms are different if you look closer. So, there is nothing
identical and therefore it is impossible to make 2 equal clones,
not possible to make 2 totally equal teams.
But in general all MMs are fine and if even one battle something
is little bit more in favour of one team then in the next battle
it is more in favour in your team and that makes at the end of
the day all MMs fair.
It is just popular to behave like the remaining brainwashed cult
demonstrates- whine, blame Submarines, CVs, MM, WG. I don't
blame any of them and i am not part of the racist cult and i
have debunked all Wows commnuity whining and opinions.
MM is fine just like other game elements.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Moderator1 Date: March 24, 2023, 3:50 am
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Greed is bad but milder capitalism is inevitable. Many if not
most computer games require you to buy gold etc, otherwise you
can't complete a level there or die and lose often. I wouldn't
say that WG does it, in my opinion it is not greedy. I have been
playing without a premium account and mainly with T10-11
non-premium ships in advanced game modes and the credits have
been raising and I have accumulated ca 60m during recent half
year. The credits come from all kind of daily bonuses etc. From
such evidence I would definitely say that WG is not greedy at
all, you can play without giving money to them. Premium ships do
not perform better and you can complete Rankeds gold league with
any advanced ship type and some even do it with primitive
standard ships, and playing primitive game modes doesn't benefit
either with premium ships. The only rational reason to give
money to WG is if you want to have quicker a bigger choice of
ships. Let's say you want to have 2 Subs line in your garage
then it may take 3 months to achieve it if you play moneyless
way 5 hours per week. But with premium account and/or a premium
ship that would be achieved with 1 months, 3 times quicker. Most
stop playing after a half year with having only 1 ship line
available. For a more serious gamer one would like to have more
than 2 Subs choices and then you need to speed up the progress.
For example my 1-2 years of premium account gave me around 20
top tier ships and many fully trained captains and now I have a
big choice and no need for additional ships but also no need for
credits as I said in the beginning because I have 60m and
growing. I don't like premium ships and don't crave for more
standard ships. I like all Subs, I like 3-4 DDs and that is
totally satisfying.
WG definitely is not a Pay to Win game. Without the premiums I
had I would have less ships today, ca 10, but even that would be
more than enough. I completed yesterday a Bronze league with
standard Subs quickly like always and will do 5000 battles with
Subs in Gold league. So, I need only 2 standard ships and no
need to give money for that.
If think WG could force players to pay more and it would still
be freely playable.
So, the Pay to Win argument is totally debunked. But it is still
quite popular argument.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Moderator1 Date: March 25, 2023, 4:42 pm
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Lemmingtrain is a popular term.
The community believes that lemming train is bad and uses it as
an excuse to do team split.
Example:
HTML https://imgur.com/73TH0Oe
The reality is that lemming train is a natural thing because
ships have different speed, and in small MMs the most effective
is if the team stays together.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Hanuman Date: March 26, 2023, 7:51 am
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Example of popular opinions:
1. you are bad.
2. you have bad gramamr
3. you have bad argumentation methods
HTML https://imgur.com/FjrTsgI
The answer is very simple: prove where my argumentation rules
and metheds are bad or worse than in wows official forum. Is it
bad that i post spam images or call others idiots or ignore
counter arguments- no, i don't do it. So, come and prove that my
debates have something wrong.
Wows community believes that someone is bad even if he finishes
in sprint 1 Rankeds Gold league a battle a TOP 1- that is
delusional.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: wows Date: April 30, 2023, 7:16 am
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A popular idea is to suggest that the MM should be skill based
and obviously in the community the term skill means teams
averages. TeamsWR =Skills/Knowledge= Holyness.
Example:
[quote]
The :etc_swear: MM should be skill-based!
[/quote]
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/169434-just-to-say-see-ya-in-some-other-games/?tab=comments#comment-4383115
In other topics we have debunked plenty of times all Stats
Religion belives and no need to repeat here. Would be fine to
replace the brainwashed wird Skills with TeamsWR,
RankedExamResult or other more adequate word and then the
suggestion would sound more adequate like this: the Mm could be
TeamsWr based. If you want to make skill based Mm construction
then you must first show which number measures skills. TeamsWR
does not measure skills, but ExamResult does better. If you
can't define which exam result measures skills then you can't
create skill based Mm.
Even if you make TeamsWR based MM then it is naive to expect
that the battle will be like TeamsWR shows. Some players who
have TeamsWR first 3 years at 40% and on the 4th year at 70% and
overall average at 45% won't perform as one expects from 45%
players could do. Many reasons make players perform differently
than TeamsWR shows, and how actual skills are.
I don't think that such TeamsWr or ExamResults based MM would
make noticably different outcome. The 2nd reason is that there
are not enough players to make complex Mm construction.
I don't see any iissues in the game and no Mm issues. If
sometimes some battles alleys have better cruiser choices then
at the same time their DD choices are weaker than enemies have,
and on next battles opposite way, and also TeamsWr and
ExamsResult and everything is balanced at the end of the
evening, no matter if few battles had a 5% edge. So, there is no
need to get emotional because few battles and no need to fix MM
nor anything.
And i forgot to add that if you put equal Top athletes to
complete to each other then they will produce 50% winning rate
just like if 2 weakest athletes compete to each other many times
they make 50% WR too. Obviously Stats obsessed community
wouldn't like such scenario where the weakest and strongest have
both Wr of 50%. So, in that case donwish any WR based Mm.
So the Skillbased MM has been debunked just like all other
community opinions.
It is just popular to complain and one has only allowed
opinions. Depressive Stats Religion makes cult members to find
possible solutions to improve their holy stats.
Some rare players have started to dear to say that TeamsWr based
MM is delusional, but even they are still Stats minded
brainwashed believers and racist.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: wows Date: April 30, 2023, 9:30 am
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Also it is popular to repeat brainwashingly that Shimakaze's
20km torps are bad and 12kms are good, and 17.9k Hp is bad.
Like always Wows community fails to prove such believes.
Shima has worst guns so he loses to everyone even if he has the
maximum HP that Dds have. For example 30k Hp Shima loses to 15k
Marceau. Therefore it is not rational to improve guns or hp. A
typical situation where Shima dies would not have gone other
ways with some additional HP or some better guns, it would
perhaps prolong 1 seconds the agony.
In the current game version 12km torpedo range is too short
compared to 12 km radar range. Therefore non-risky torpedo range
is 14-20 km and that elliminayed the risk of radar spotting. The
small speed increment between 60-70 km/h is irrelevant. Having
probability to hit with torpedos more ships between 10-20 km
distance and lowering the risk of radar by not going to radar
range, is all together much rational than having other benefits.
20km and 17.9k are best choices, a opposite to Wows community
opinions.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Chaplain1 Date: June 7, 2023, 6:46 am
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It is popular to say that the MM has msitakes but when you say
the opposite then they think that you are joking.
HTML https://imgur.com/sW60tro
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Chaplain1 Date: June 7, 2023, 5:09 pm
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Typical opinion is that CVs/Subs are bad etc, exampl:
HTML https://imgur.com/KUqJQPK
There is nothing OverPowered i nthis game, and no issues in this
game.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Hanuman Date: June 12, 2023, 6:10 am
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Quite popular is to claim that there doesn't exist any
community.
To debunk it you just ask them to name at least 1 opinion that
they have different than Wows community.
You give them an example that let them say for example that Wg,
mm, cvs,subs are not bad, and that they never report, that Wows
is not an arcade game, stats don't matter, the game has no
issues, splitting Dds is a bad tactics, etc. And they fail to
give any such example which proves they share exact the same
opinion and behaviours like everyone else, hence they are not
individuals, but a cult/community members/minions.
That debunks their claim that there is no Wows community. It is
clearly a group with the same opinions and ideology.
I don't share any Wows community opinion and values, and i have
proved it plenty of times, hence i am not a Wows community
member. If a community eats only grass and i eat meat and other
things then obviously i am not a member of a grass eaters. The
same is with Wows community, do you believe/pray in stats and
report people? Yes you all do, but i won't even if you pay me
800 dollars. That draws a clear difference between me and Wows
community. If you can't draw such clear line then you are Wows
community.
During previous 3 years i didn't see anybody who wasn't a member
of sadistic rasist debunked Wows community.
I offered millions in total and gemstones to rapist-minded Wows
community members to prove that their community is right at
least in 1 thing, and they refuced to take the money and prove
anything. If tens of thousands fail to prove something and
refuce billions dollars, or in other words, gets debunked, then
the one who debunked them all cannot be wrong but those 10k must
be. If 1 debunks 3 persons then yes maybe he was lucky with
those 3. But if one debunks the whole community and even offers
brilliants then he is 100% confident and right.
That's the truth, and arguments like There is no community, or
you are bad, just doesn't count. Denial is inadequate.
An adequate sane person must be capable to prove his opinions. I
for example have no difficulties to prove my opinions. But if
the whole group of people fail to prove their belueves then that
community is surely with issues.
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Re: popular debunked slogans: MM is unfair, WG is bad, etc
By: Chaplain1 Date: June 22, 2023, 6:19 pm
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Example of the community brainwashed belief that the team/DDs
must split.
HTML https://imgur.com/JnNDESq
HTML https://imgur.com/YQpTNw5
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