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Debunked argument:"you don't listen (the smart ones)"
By: Hanuman Date: January 20, 2023, 2:26 pm
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In Wows community it is popular to use the verb "to listen" and
specially say "you don't listen (the smart ones)".
Literally listening means using ears and already that debunks
the statement/argument because you hear and can even repeat what
you heard.
Why not to use a proper straight verb like "to agree" instead
and say like:
"you don't (blindly) agree with the smart ones", or, "you don't
take my believes and don't want to become Stats religion
beliver"?
The reply to such suggestion is: why don't you take my believes
and believe my religion? And that should end the dialogue
because i provided equal statement. The opponent didn't provide
any proofs from his religion and i replied the same way without
any proofs from my religion. Of course i can provide proofs too
which are totally legitimate and every court, scientist,
logician, etc would approve my proof. And i have provided plenty
of times and won all such debates. Those debates and proofs are
totally legitimate and if Wows community wants to prove the
opposite then good luck and i even offer mponey for that and
soon i will offer diamonds and gems too. But i haven't heard any
legitimate proof from Wows commnuity. For example one of their
inadequate method is to post a spam picture as a proof. Well,
this is not an adequate proof.
Next i list all typical proofs that Wows community likes to
represent to prove their statement that i don't listen them.
Claim 1. Because Stats are science then you are wrong.
Answer 1. Stats are not a science but numbers. And science is
nothing holy that can prove anything you wish. We can take my
university stats and say that those are holy and science and
everything and therefore i am right in every computer related
topic and you don't. So, the Stats=Science argument is wrong and
has nothing to do with lsitening/agreeing. Adequate people
"listen" arguments, logics, but not because a book/sheet has
numbers somewhere. If you say that 2+2 is 5 then no matter which
numbers and letters do you have in Wows numbers, university
grades or in a science book.
Claim 2. Your RandomsWR aka Stats are bad so you are bad in
Rankeds and everything and should not play Rankeds.
Answer 2. If you were right then i wouldn't complete Bronze
league always on season's first day with win rate around 70% and
wouldn't be in Gold league always. No need to repeat here
another debunked reply that i get luck and carrying to Gold
league and first Bronze day.
Claim 3.
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Re: Debunked argument:"you don't listen (the smart ones)&qu
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By: Hanuman Date: January 25, 2023, 4:08 pm
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Wows comunity says:
[quote] 14 minutes ago, Northern_Nightowl said:
So, I'd like to call for:
- people should advertise whether they are in need of or
willing to take advices;
- good players should try to respond kindly to those
requests.
[/quote]
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/155175-what-to-do-with-beginners-and-bad-players/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-4340631
We answer:
In my clan's forum we title your opinion as a topic "Debunked
argument:"you don't listen (the smart ones)".
We don't see that your opinion is adequate because we don't see
any advices at all but all kind of socializing, picture posting
etc. And secondly because we don't see that there are many
universal suggestions at all but instead many and most times
totally different/contrary ones, thirdly the community has a so
called brainwashed behaviour in battles like DDs must always
split etc. And some other aspects as well makes your popular
suggestion of "listening" to be debunked. Such popular
suggestion is a famous belief that education/school is the key
to make the world better- the reality is that people don't even
remember 99.97% of the material they went through in the school
time, so the illusional belief about education and
"listening/learning" doesn't work in the universe.
As i remember a have even done a professional debate on that
Listening-opinion with your community member and he lost the
debate. So, i suggest to think about such popular debunked
opinion. There is no need to take my advice and my different
opinion negatively etc, it just suggests to think about your and
any other standpoints that Wows commnuity has.
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Re: Debunked argument:"you don't listen (the smart ones)&qu
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By: Hanuman Date: February 6, 2023, 10:51 am
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There is a blind belief that idols, authorities are right and
educational etc. An example is to say that Twitch streams and
Youtube channels show benefitial educational things.
That belief is totally illusional and the proof is to take just
random videos from such content creators and ask from you what
did you learn from such video? The answer is a silence which
means there is nothing to learn.
Example 1. In this example some rare Wows community members dare
to say that such videos and streams are worthless places where
fame/money is the goal and nothing educational/useful. The
dialogue below is quite rare and most of the community members
sincerely believe that their idols in Youtube and Streams and
the high Stats members are holy, educational and everything. In
general this is called brainwashing, and a belief in
authorities. If authorities/idols say that pork is evil then
would you believe it? Billions do believe jsut like Wows
community believes in stats, Youtube videos etc.
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Re: Debunked argument:"you don't listen (the smart ones)&qu
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By: Hanuman Date: February 10, 2024, 2:18 am
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If there were anythink to Listen then there would exist a
numbered simple list of skills to read anywhere.
It is very naive to think that muslims would Listen anyone about
pork. The same goes to computer games, specially those which has
so much randomness inside, there are no ideal tactics and
knowledge.
Wows is so simplistic game that there isn't anything to even
learn.
My skill level is at 70-80% TeamsWr because 100% is not possible
in teams games.
Why not to Listen arguments and not do blind brainwashed
believes? Why to have a feeling that Wows community has any
arguments after years of debunking them in every topic? Just
prove once per 10 years 1 tiny opinion of Wows community, and
after that start to talk about Listening?
Even challenges, money, gemstones are offered as a prize for
millions Wows community members to encourage them to prove
anything. Just prove for example that Wows is an arcade game and
take 900 euros, why so difficult?
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