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#Post#: 113--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 8:37 am
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It is inadequate to ignore counter-questions and arguments. You
and your wows community has always been inadequate and failed to
answer even Yes-No questions.
What you try to do is that you try to find at least 1 small
irrelevant detail and prove that you are right at least in that.
For example, your community's mind tries to find gramamr
mistakes from my text and have by that illusion that you won the
debate. This is inadequate because gramamr is irrelevant.
so, you lost the +-1 debate and also why we should do such
cross-forum dialogue? Because of me? No. Because of your
community, right? Right. I suggest, that make an account to an
adequate forum and talk there. All my posts and methods are
adequate even i nthe official inadequate Wows forum- show at
least 1 post which is not adequate in my history? so, it is more
than obvious that i am adequate and this forum is adequate so
there is no need to do 2-forum dialogue. also it is inadequate
that you don't put there links to this forum as i do- do you
want me to explai nthat as well why?
#Post#: 114--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 9:21 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg109#msg109 date=1656767497]
No, wa [/quote]
[/quote]
What is "No wa"?
No-wa is an inadequate typical proofless denial of truth.
I have given to Wows community plenty of times a counter
question which asks what if i start too with inadequate methods
like "no, wa"? Where should that lead?
So, do you want me to go down on your wows community level and
respond to you now: "No wa"?
I repeat a conclusion here that your mind equals totally your
brainwashed community's mind. So, if we take our dialogue as an
interview to our clan. Then the answer is an obvious No. Or "no
obi wa ma ta" in your community language.
I repeat that if anyone in your community wants to prove that at
least 1 opinion or 1 person or 1 topic is adequate in your Wows
community, or wrong in mine, then make an account here, and try
to prove such thing first time in the history. It is not
adequate to have a dialogue between 2 forums which your
community produced.
#Post#: 115--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 9:31 am
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[quote]
What i meant when i said it happen to everyone is that it CAN
happen, not that it does regularly
Neither of us have data to back up either claim. However my
claim is that being pink can be the result of multiples reason.
Yours is; i quote from your second post :
Citation
Right? In short, luck determines if one gets a penaly and a
pink name or not. Yes or no? Yes. Is it adequate to have such
penalty system based on luck? No
Which is significantly more outlandish than mine, which relies
on what either the wiki or a wargaming employee said.
[/quote]
You claim that you used the word CAN but i don't remember that
you did. You have made many times in our debate mistakes with
important words. Yes or no? Yes.
Now let's look your new statement with the added word CAN.
The new statement syas that soemthing can happen to everyone.
Right? For example, with everyone it can happen that they win
with lottery? Right? So what is the value of such statement?
There is no point to make such obvious statements. Yes many
things can happen to many people but what is the value of such
truth in a debate?
So, you previous statement without the word CAN made you lose
the argument. And the new statement with the add-on word Can
also made your statement inadequate. Yes or no?
I repeat that WG has so buggy software that crashes occures
often enough. I repeat, that it is enough if there are 100 or
less punishments per day to make the punishment system
inadequate. I repeat that game crashes and reporting system are
more than enough to prove that the punishment/reporting/Karma
system is inadequate soup. Do you want me to copypaste again
here why they are inadequate?
You say that my explanation about Karma soup and Human rights
etc are somehow outlandish/wrong? I have given totally clear
explanations that the soup is not adequate at all and everyone
who participiates in that soup are inadequate afterwards as
well. Which my explanation doesn't look adequate? There is no
need for any data or any scientific method in entertainment and
in the current soup topic specially. Does the game crashes? Yes.
Does it need a data or a scientist to prove it? No. Are those
crashes and reporting enough examples to prove my point? Yes. Is
there need for any data? No. Have i seen any adequate
counter-arguments in this debate? No.
At the end you claim that your opinions are better than mine
becuase they are believing the authority. I can copy paste and
repeat that it is inadequate to believe in authorities. Do i
really need to copy paste that part again and repeat? Why don't
you go read yourself and don't ignore that part there? It is
inadequate to believe in authority or to have any other blind
belief. For example we proved that your community including you
and WG believes in AFK terms wrong way. Our proof showed that
you can't even define the words you use, you don't understand
what comes out from your mouth. Did we show it? Yes, you and
your inadequate links showed it clearly. You have brainwahed
believes and often those proofless believes come from the so
called authority. s owe proved here by an example and by you
that it is inadequate to believe in authorities and use such
belief in debates. Do you understand that believing in authority
is not reasonable? For example d oyou believe that pork andthe
word War are bad because authorities tell that without any
adequate proof?
So, why are you still inadequate and say that your opinions are
more right because your opinions come fro mauthoritiues?
Secondly, which your opinions come fro myour authorities?
Copying WG Wiki texts doesn't make any opinions.
#Post#: 116--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 9:34 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
No, wasting ammo isn't the problem, the problem is the player
going out of their way enough to get pink which implies wasting
time not playing to win which implies active sabotage. Therefor
they aren't here to enjoy the game with us, they are here to
take away our enjoyment. And that's a wrong thing to do
[/quote]
You seem to define what is a problem and what is not. I already
explained that the Wows community is a problem and friendly
fires and other irrelevant details are not problems. do you want
me to copy paste that part here again that explanation because
you ignored that explanation and plenty of other arguments. what
do you think where a discussion leads if one part uses
inadequate methods like ignoring counter-arguments?
So, what you call a problem is not a problem.
The second mistake in your text is that you seem to be convinced
that the pink/punished player has certainly done something bad.
Because you have a phrase "the player going out of their way
enough to get pink". I can repeat again that punished status
doesn't prove that a punishment was appropriate. Do you want me
to copypaste those explanations again here? It is your msitake
if you ignored those explanations, you community does such
msitake often.
You seem to say that the goal of an entertainment game is to
win. No it is not. Look for example snooker players in the pub.
The real reason is socializing, not winning. The same is with
other entertainment activities like Wows. Yes or no?
You mention concious sabotage but i mentioned earlier that many
uncountios acts impact the battle more than wasting ammo. For
example, if somebody says demoralizing thing i nthe battle then
that gives bad morale to the team and that causes morel ikely to
lose. Also wrong tactical positioning determines much more the
battle than wasting ammo. Do you want me to copy paste again
that part?
At the last you say that someone don't enjoy the game. Why do
you have such illusional belief? Every battle 4-6 Sub and CV
players enjoy the game and like their ships, that makes
thousands of CV/Sub lovers per day and they totally enjoy just
like others. Where comes an illusion that somebody don't enjoy
or that somebody takes someones joy away? Subs don't take any
joy away and BBs don't take either, those who don't play mainly
for victory enjoy 100% their battles. Yes or No?
Do you agree that everything you have said about the friendly
fire was wrong because i proved it clearly?
Do you also agree that friendly fire is an irrelevant detail
compared to Wows community inhumanity etc as i explained?
Do you agree that friendly fire doesn't approve +-1 and nothing
approves the Karma soup or other Human Rights violations?
#Post#: 117--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 9:56 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
Citation
Friendly fire can be a good educational/healing method for
the community
No. That's just plain wrong. Cathartic perhaps, but educational
? for who ? Neither the one shooting nor the one getting shot
will learn anything from it, and certainly not when thoses you
concider (your words) "mentally ill" can use it too
[/quote]
You say that you didn't understand how a friendly fire can be
educational. It is educational because it puts a person to
wonder why there is disagreement in something. The person thinks
and maybe will understand which in total you can call an
education. Eaxample, one writes i nthe chat that he reports Subs
and he does. Subs and some other non-brainwashed peopel start to
froinedly fire that person. The person starts to think that why
they do it. He starts to think that maybe the belives and
behaviours he has adobted from the wows community are not right.
Such process you can call a education or with other similar
english word whichever you like. Do you agree now that in that
example and many others friendly fire is good? Yes or no? If you
ignore that Yes-no question like it is common in your community
then your whole opinion in that text was wrong and we proved it.
Do you agree? Yes or no?
Do you agree that you have lost the main debate topic about the
Karma topic? Yes or no? If No, then where are your arguments
that demonstrate how good is Karma soup? My arguments stay still
strong and you haven't provided any adequate counter
explanations.
#Post#: 118--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 10:07 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
and the Human Right in other form that was taken away.
What human right? I made an hypothesis on what you meant by that
but if someone isn't being granted their human right, i think
they have much bigger problem than being shot in a video game
[/quote]
You ask me to explain more clear way the Human Right detail. The
explanation is that chatbanned person don't have the Human Right
to speak and the other communication way is to for example to
Morse code which are beeps or shooting sounds in a special
rhytm, or other talking ways. So, if from a human is taken away
a right to speak or other Human Rights then it is obvious that
he uses other communication methdos, like More code, friendly
fire, etc. Do you understand now the Human Right detail there?
Do you remember that i asked a counter-question that asked you
to realize what is more important: violating Human Rights or
violating a game rule? The point is that it is adequate to
concentrate/prioritize in more impactful things and ignore
irrelevant small details. So, friendly fire is such and
irrelevant topic not only in our debate which you lost but
generally in Wows.
So do you understand Human Rights and understand that your
community violates it and does other problems?
Do you understand that you lost the debate about Karma here?
#Post#: 119--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 10:11 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
What human right? I made an hypothesis on what you meant by that
but if someone isn't being granted their human right, i think
they have much bigger problem than being shot in a video game
Citation
What is more significant - violating Human Rights, for
example torturing people, or, not covering a face while coughing
while in the public transport? Mentally healthy people would
ignore the uncovered cough and also ignore friendly fire etc but
would not ignore when Wows community reports Subs and takes the
right to speak away etc.
This has nothing to do with the conversation we're having
[/quote]
You say that something has nothing to do with the conversation.
But you are wrong because you just asked about what i mean by
Human Rights and this text here explains it. It explains nicely
intopical that Human rights are important and gives even an
example with torturing. Do you think that Wows community doesn't
do mental torture? How about reporting all sub players and
attacking everyone who dares to have his own different opinion?
so, you are wrong if you think that my explanation about Human
Rights is offtopical. Do you agree that you are wrong? Yes or
no? If no, then you are typical Wows community person who just
denies and then call the opponent mad and then bans it. Just
like is done with journalists in some countries.
#Post#: 120--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 10:16 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
AFK means "Away From Keyboard" but as you pointed out it's not
always the case, which is why most people mean "Inactive in
battle" when refering to AFK
playing iwth words won't advance anything. Now you may be
disconnected pretty often but on my end it's pretty rare. It's
not luck, it's your internet connection or your hardware.
[/quote]
So, you try to define the AFK term first time in your life.
Let's first remember that i proved that WG and your Wows
community and you are inadequate in defining terms? Do you
remember or you want me to copypaste that part here again? Now
you admit here all i said by saying "as you pointed out it's not
always the case". Why don't you say in more simple Englih:you,
Wows community and WG are wrong. Isn't it more honest and clear
to express so?
I repeat: the term AFK is not allowed because it is inadequate.
Do you want me to copy paste that saying here again or not? Yes
or no?
So, all you said using the AFK-term were wrong. You had an
illusion that AFK players have done something wrong. No, they
have not done anything wrong but those who use the term AFK have
done wrong. Every time you use misleading terms you damage the
society. Yes or no? so, you and Wows community and WG use
inadequate terms and are inadequate therefore and that damages
others. Yes or no?
So, you lost the debate about Karma already because you had
illusions about AFK-reasons.
I agree that gramamr and word choice etc are usually irrelevant
details. But here you clearly had a wrong attitude because of
the brainwashed term. Your community really belives in illusions
that peopel are away from keyboards. So, this time your msitake
is not so irrelevant.
At the end you say that disconnection and crashes don't happen
so often to you but earlier you said that all hundreds of
thousands players experience them and we concluded that that is
quite often. So, you contradict here. And secondly even if there
are only some hundreds of punishments because of disconnect in a
day then even that amount is enough to say that those
punishments are not adequate. Nowadays it shouldn't be difficult
in softwarte to distinguish between a crash and planned
inactivity either so the punishment system is inadequate and
everyone who participiates in any punishment acts are inadequate
therefore too. Very often peopel write negative attitude towards
inactive players and also towards pink active players which is
all inadequate. Very inadequate is to report which leads to
violation of Human Rights and other issues as we talked.
So, you are wrong in your opinion that AFK term doesnt matter.
It matters, justl ike the term Arcade matters, and the term
Troll, and Inteligence, and Kowledge, etc. all those terms are
wrong in your community and they matter and make the community
more brainwashed. Yes it is does not matter if you use a word
Vehicle or Ship but if you say that Wows is Arcade and you
cannot define Arcade then it matters. If you cannot define what
is AFK then you have illusions about it which seeds the desire
to damage others etc.
Do you agree that you lost Karma arguments? Show where is your
proof that Karma soup is good and don't violate humanity?
#Post#: 121--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 10:41 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
Citation
What was the goal to post WG wiki page link? Was the goal to
define the term AFK? If so, then this goal failed. Was the goal
to define pink players? Well, it doesn't mention the word Pink.
So, what was the point of the link then?
The wiki page does mention the color pink :
Citation
The color pinkEdit
The first level of penalty is that the player's nickname and
ship and aircraft icons are displayed in pink on the team panel,
on the main map and mini-map, and, if still pink after the
battle, on the post-battle report screens, and in the Port
screens. On the Details page of the post-battle report, and
again in a notice in the Port screen, the number of battle for
which the "pink" status will continues appears. The typical
penalty is 2 battles, though it may be longer.
A "pink" penalty should be considered a warning. It has no
appreciable effect on future play.
But you would have to scroll up to see it. Not a different page,
scroll up. That's either a show of intellectual dishonesty or
incompetance
[/quote]
You confirm that you gave an inadequate link. Yes or no? Yes.
Why yes? Because as i said your link didn't open a paragraph
that defines the words AFK and pink. Yes or no? Yes. Why Yes?
Because your inadequate link opened a text chunk that didn't
explain anything about those wrods and also that text contained
other mistakes which made the whole text inadequate. Yes or no?
Yes. Why Yes? Because this is the adequate method to evaluate
what is true and what is not. Inadequate method/way is to behave
like your Wows community typically do that it ignores questions,
arguments, then denies, then calls the opponent fat and mentally
disabled, and then bans him or uses other silencing methods. Do
you agree that the previous sentences describe Wows community
adequately? I repeat, that your link was inadequate and that is
a fact. There is no point to do any debate with your community
because it is inadequate and denies etc.
In my rules links, emoticons, spam etc are not suggested. Have i
repeated that and other things before? Yes i have. Have i
demonstrated that my rules are adequate and yours are not? Yes i
have, even this text chunk demonstrates it. It shows clearly
that it is better to have a rule: don't post links, emoticons,
spam images, etc. do you agree to be adequate or not? If not,
then why do you still post links?
The copied text says: " A "pink" penalty should be considered
a warning. It has no appreciable effect on future play.".
It says that the pink color has no effect. That is not true. The
cosmetical color is the evidence that a punishment has been
executed. The punishment is that if now the person has the game
crashed or anything similar then it receives even a bigger
punishment next. Also the brainwashed community is not human
friendly and likes to say demoralizing comments for pink
players. That also acts like a punishment. There is a clear
effect for the future battles for the person but the article
says the opposite. That proves that your copypasted text is
again and again inadequate.
Do you confirm that you obey to (my) adequate rules if you talk
with me? Yes or no? If No, then where is your respect and why do
you ask me at all? Go and be in your inadequate forum and
violate Human Rights etc? I repeat the rule: no links, no
emoticons, no inadequate methods like calling others mad etc. Do
you obey? Yes or no? If No ,then i have plenty of times
demonstrated that your inadequate behaviour doesn't lead to any
good direction. Al lyour links and copypaste has been inadequate
as we proved. I suggest: obey immediately to adequate rules,
otherwise no dialogue.
#Post#: 122--------------------------------------------------
Re: interviews for clan membership
By: wows Date: July 2, 2022, 10:58 am
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[quote author=wows link=topic=16.msg115#msg115 date=1656772265]
But you would have to scroll up to see it. Not a different page,
scroll up. That's either a show of intellectual dishonesty or
incompetance
[/quote]
You say that i should scroll from your inadequate link to
somewhere? I already responded that you are inadequate and your
links are inadequate. Why should anybody scroll anywhere if
adequate way is to not post any links and not copy any texts
from those links?
Has your links been adequate? No. Have the pages contained
adequate text where your links point to? No. Is it adequate to
post links? No.
You seem to call me incometence because i don't scroll onm your
inadequate pages? This is not incompetence, but it is typical to
your community to call opponents with tiltes after they are
losing a debate. There are simple adequate rules: don't call
others mad etc, don't post links or other spam, be adequate.
Have you or any of your community won any arguments? No. Show,
where and which argument in your responses are adequate
regarding the Karma topic? Why do you need any inadequate links
but i don't need links ever?
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