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#Post#: 876--------------------------------------------------
Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 16, 2022, 6:17 am
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The japanese word Giri means for sure a Hill/Mountain and there
are plenty of XXX_Giri hills in Japan.
Examples:
[quote]
The Sathuragiri was surrounded with four mountains as Indiragiri
on the east, Varunagiri on the west, Kuberagiri on the north,
Yamagiri on the south and at the centre Sivagiri, Vishnugiri,
Brahmagiri, Siththagiri are the four mountains located. Sathuram
means square in Tamil. This is the reason for the mountain to be
named as Sathuragiri which was mentioned in the book,
Sathuragiri thalapuranam*.
Source:
HTML http://siththarkal-en.blogspot.com/2013/06/sathuragiri-mountain-journey-01.html
[/quote]
The Sathuragiri Hills
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathuragiri_Hills
are a holy place
and ends also with the Giri/Hill ending and the Yamagiri seems
to be a nearby hill there. All of the words endng with Giri i
nthe above text are important names for every buddhist leraner
and they know all those words immediately (Sith, Brahm, Vishnu,
Siva). But the Yama-giri is little bit unknown and the word Yama
is not a holy word, it seems to jsut mean a word Fog. So, it i
am not very sure why it is called a Foggy Mountain and not by a
holy name like BuddhaMountain BuddhaGiri. But it is enough if we
know that Yamagiri is a part of a holy area and all the 4 holy
other Giri's mentioned above i can obviously explain later
because they are all familiar names/terms.
That FogMountain Yamagiri was developed and improved during the
history and some recent versions of the destroyer got famoues
because had first female captain in the Japanese history at
2016. Sounds ironic for Western world that only 2016 women got
rights in Japan but let's foget the irony and jsut state the
fact and remember that Yamagiri was the destroyer andn ot other
destroyers in Japan who got a female leader.
[img]
HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/06/05/ootani1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqZgEkZX3M936N5BQK4Va8RWtT0gK_6EfZT336f62EI5U.jpg?imwidth=1280[/img]
HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/05/meet-japans-only-female-warship-captain/
So, the name Yamagiri is conencted to buddhism, because it seems
to locate in a holy mountain area, but also in the Japanese
history that ship got first female captain.
Now let's continue with Wows ship part next.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 16, 2022, 5:11 pm
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The Burst fire is controlloed with the key "F".
It takes practice and luck to use it at the right time and right
ship angle.
If you use it at wrong time then your ship becomes for 30 next
seconds vulnerable because you cannot shoot during that time.
And during 30 seconds some enemy DDs can easily kill you. And if
you use it so that your ship is at wrong angle and some guns are
disabled then this is also a mistake.
The right way to use the F-mode is when the result is better
than with the typical mode and i can give such examples below.
In general you can make things worse or better with the F-mode,
and not possible to make the same neutral result liek with the
non-F-mode. So, it is a kind of risk taking. But Yamagiri/Shima
has so bad guns that you must take such F-mode risks to make
your input for the team more productive.
In other words in the F-mode you shoot 3 salvos per 30 seconds.
In non-F-mode your reload time is 4.5 seconds with my
captain/ship setup. So, without the F-mode you can ideally shoot
that amount of salvos during the 30 seconds: 30s/4.5s=6.6
salvos. But ideal shooting means that you don't waste time
during salvos and press the shooting button immediately when the
salvo is ready. So, let's be more realsitic and say that you
shoot 5-6 salvos during 30 seconds and not 6.6 salvos. So, the
comparision is that F-mode is expensive because it gives 3
salvos per 30 secs compared to 5-6 salvos of the usual mode. The
first opinion may become that isn't it better then to avoid that
F-mode and use only the usual mode? The answer is like it is
above that, firstly Japanese torpedo DDs have one of the worst
guns among DDs and in Rankeds game mode DD-duels are so common
so that most chose mainly strong TOP 3 gunboats so the weakest
gunboat like Yamagiri/Shima just loses most DD duels and it is
naive to think that maybe one can avoid those DD duels and "play
safe" which is another brainwashed slogan we can talk somewhere
later. So, the Yamagiri has bad guns and it is worth to practice
the F-mode to make the ship more competitive. The risk is quite
high but some practice lower the risk.
So, the Damager Per 30 secs or DP30s gets worse with the F-mode
but it was already even with the usual mode one of the worst
guns. But that F-mode fires 3 salvos in a row with a very few
seconds and that's why it is called with the word "Burst" and
such few seconds with 3 salvos can make 9k damage sometimes.
Compared to the non-F-mode you make with few seconds only 1
salvo with perhaps 1000-3000 damage. So, the key is in that
burst-word.
1. If your situation means that you anyway die imemdiately in
next few seconds then smart is to turn on the F-mode and shoot 3
salvos and die as expected instead of shooting 1 salvo without a
F-mode and still die. Such situations are quite many. Sometimes
you are in smoke with HP of 2k and the enemy full HP DD is
approaching you and will spot you in 4 seconds. Soemtimes you
are not in smoke but just under enemy fore and low HP and
unavoidable torps will hit you in 4 seconds. We can make
examples later but the idea is that when you are sure you die
anyway in a few moments then use the F-key.
2. When you know you become unspotted in a few seconds then
shoot a burst out and it is safe because you become unspotted.
If you are entering into a smoke or swimming behind a rock for
example then this is a smart place to use F-key. This is one of
the main thing to practice and it involves planning your
swimming route that way that rocks and close buy and setting a
smoke cloud and then diving into it and out many times etc.
3. If the enemy has low HP which is less than 9k HP then you can
risk and make a burst fire. I have got often 9k dmg with one
burst. For example if it is 1-vs-1 situation at the end of the
battle then you can this way kill an enemy DD better than with
the typical mode.
It seems to be smart to keep the F-mode off msot time and turn
on only when you need it. Otherwise if you get accidentally
spotted and F-mode is on and only your ship's front guns face
the enemy and you automatically start to shoot forgetting that
the F-key was ON then you make 3 salvos with 2 bullets each and
become 30 seconds frozen and the enemy who spotted you just
kills you even if he is at low HP.
After many practice battles in Gold league you get much better
with that F-key and make less likely msitakes. In general i
suggest to use it as much as possible and make the possibilities
to use it. Because Yamagiri's guns are worst guns so should make
it up by using the risky F-key. If you really think it is too
complex and risky then avoid it totally of course. But after you
win some battles specially thanks to that F-key usage then you
start to feel that it is worth to learn it and use it. Specially
in Gold league where all players have equal skills and most have
stronger gunboats than your torpedo-boat.
Next i give more examples of the F-keys and probably some
replays/pictures. And we move to next topic which is torpedos.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 18, 2022, 6:28 am
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Burst-fire is also reasonable if a loosing battle has 10 seconds
left and your DD is not spotted yet but. Then you just fire 3
salvos and the battle ends or you die by 3 enemies.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 19, 2022, 4:38 am
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I didn't find Yamagiri tutorial in the official Wows forum:
HTML https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/forum/305-destroyers/
All i saw from that froum when i looked now was typical hate,
suffering, emoticons, spam images, nothing about the game and
not even a Yamagiri topic.
This is what i saw, maybe we have different eyes and your eyes
see a different picture and tutorials about Yamagiri.
I have the Russian T11 DD as well and that one has so bad
concealment that he can't spot anything for the team. But it has
really strong guns and also Burst mode. I would try one day
American and European T11 DD as well but at the moment it is not
available yet. But i of course liek the Yamagiri a lot at the
moment.
The bad thing is that it has weak manuverability so it turns
slowly and slower than Shima in my opinion and it takes enemy
torps in quite easily because of that. With Shima the enemy
torps weren't so dangerous but with Yamagiri they little bit are
and you take torps in more often with your Yamagiri. So, it
requires little bit more luck and more caution. Usually as a DD
you swim between the enemy potentional location and your BB
because it psots enemy torps for the BB and that operation fails
little bit more often with Yamagiri compared to Shima. So, more
planning in routes is needed, not to swim where enemy torps come
from 3/9 oclock, and specially if you try to do Burst-mode often
usage then plan route to be close to rocks/smokes.
In overall i like it because as the shima line always have been
it is the best scout, and that is already good enough for the
team. I have tried those short range 8km torps too but those one
can use 7% of times/occasions, and when i successfully used them
i admitted that the standard 20km torps could have succeeded as
well. So, i don't think any 8km torps in the game are wise no
matter which DD and which torpedo speed.
About torps we can obviously talk more longer next. But those
8km torps are an useless button in my opinion msot times, jsut
like the AP-button for DDs.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 22, 2022, 9:22 am
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When you are shooting inside a smoke which is about to end in
several seconds then it is also wide to shoot out one burst
unspottedly and then you won't shoot anymore anyway without the
smoke and move to a new position.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 23, 2022, 5:44 am
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If you HP is very low then it is also fine to set the burst mode
on because if you get psotted you die immediately anyway so at
least you will hopefully have time to one burst-salvo.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 28, 2022, 10:04 am
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Soemtime by looking which enemy ships are left/alive and minimap
then you can predict which ship you can spot. For example if 2
enemies are alive and the BB is on the minimap far away from you
then the only possibility is that you spot the enemy DD. In such
cases it is smart to turn the short range fast torpedos on. The
code is: 3-3-1. In case you spot an enemy DD then he will be in
the short torpedo range and you don't have to waste time by
pressing 3-3.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 29, 2022, 6:36 am
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If you face Zorky let's say or other stronger DD then you can
waste one smoke to make 7k burst dmg. Just start aiming and
bursting and press also the smoke button and turn. When you run
out from smokes then you can do the same but beside the smnoke
you escape behind a rock and another 7k damage. This way you
slowly by slowly kill stronger gunboats.
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Re: Yamagiri
By: Moderator1 Date: November 29, 2022, 1:20 pm
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Like the T11 Japanese BBs introduced the so called calibration
so it looks wise to follow that idea and act as 2 steps:
1. first shoot a typical salvo where busrt is Off. That act is
"calibration".
2. secondly turn burst mode on. F-key.
3. fire the burst. Thanks to step 1 your burst will be more
accurate.
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