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       #Post#: 833--------------------------------------------------
       Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: RankedGod Date: November 12, 2022, 5:04 am
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       Here all the good Ranked players can argue....
       Only if you are current Rank 1 Gold you are allowed to write
       here
       #Post#: 834--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: RankedGod Date: November 12, 2022, 5:06 am
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       Rank 1 again.....
       Battles played: 72
       Winrate  :62,5%
       Ships : Napoli / Condé
       Uses Ships Fastmoition thinks are good: NONE
       Uses tactics Fastmotion thinks are good : NONE
       #Post#: 836--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: Moderator1 Date: November 12, 2022, 5:26 am
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       Do you lose now the next sprint awards?
       Your post violates the ideology "stats don't matter" etc but if
       you can keep the topic more or less adequate then i believe it
       is fine.
       Gold, bronze, banned, not banned, africans, australians, fat,
       skinny, biggest criminals and all others should have the Human
       Right to speak.
       Skin color, highschool grades, Wows Stats etc do not make
       anyone's opinions better.
       There is no need to restrict some topics by skin color or ranks.
       [quote author=wows link=topic=67.msg822#msg822 date=1667937497]
       Values:
       The forum main standpoints/believes/values are following.
       1. Entertainment is not a competition. Behave in Wows like in
       the pub's billiards, liek in the football with friends. No
       matter who loses, just enjoy the entertainment.
       2. Don't be racist. For example don't treat people according to
       their skin color, highschool grades, Wows stats.
       3. Life is transcendent, it has things beyond the science. So,
       don't act like an obsessed one, like an egoic one.
       4. Don't be brainwashed. We don't believe like the racist Wows
       community believes about WG, Subs, CV, MM, Stats. We don't
       report, don't do Karma Soup.
       5. We don't value inadequate behaviour. For example it is
       inadequate to post a spam image as a reply for a question. Be a
       lawyer. No emoticons etc.
       6. Be a monk, be kind. We never call people with titles. There
       are some exceptions (terms: Brainwashed, Racist, Inadequate,
       PrimitiveShip Types) but even then we explain why we use those
       titles, and typical idiot-calling we never do. If we see a
       msitake then we don't punish brutally but let the person do some
       more msitakes and then we explain and act. Dont call others as
       bad, don't title egoically oneself as Unicum, etc- treat
       everyone equally. Follow Human Rights, specially the Right of
       speach article.
       7. We explain and do reasoning for everything. For example we
       know very well all the terms that we use and can define them at
       any moment. For example we don't use the obsolete term Arcade if
       there is no adequate definition for it. We don't follow
       unreasonable forum rules like some forums has (many posts in a
       row, talking about moderation, etc).
       8. Socialization is not a goal. We have plenty of entertaining
       reading here, about slangs etc, that is enough of socialization
       and if one needs more then go to more appropriate forums.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: RankedGod Al Dente Date: November 13, 2022, 8:54 am
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       why does "stats dont matter" always say the greatest losers??is
       there a reason for?its not racist or somthing you believe its
       just a fact that only winning is helping you get progress......
       Live with it or close your Eyes noob....
       Only answer when you are Rank 1 Fastmotion!
       Only then you are on my level
       #Post#: 840--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: wows Date: November 13, 2022, 9:18 am
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       You ask questions from others and then deny them to answer to
       those questions- such inadequate behaviour makes your questions
       useless.
       In this forum you must be adequate, be above the official forum
       and community. Inadequate behaviours and Wows community level is
       not sufficient here and it is written quite clearly into the
       rules and other topics.
       We repeat:
       1. Calling others with titles (Noob, good, etc) is not allowed
       and you can read explanations why. If you can't find those rules
       then you sohuld be moved to an isolated area where you can ask
       explanations for all rules.
       2. Your recuirement to deny freedom of speak in this forum with
       Ranks is not allowed and we can debate more deeply why Human
       Rights are good. I repeat, in this forum and topic everyone has
       the right to speak, even the banned ones and Wows official forum
       and other forum violate Human Rights. Your main goal seems to be
       egoic to feed your ego that the forum owner does not have Rank 1
       yet compared to youm but he does not have Rank 1 goal most times
       at all and he has plenty of times explained it. You are your
       racist community has Stats-racism-oriented values and goals and
       hence such racist behaviour against Human Rights etc. We can
       debate about it if you don't understand.
       3. You ignored a question about sprints' prizes and that is
       inadequate. Also you didn't provide any opinions about Rankeds
       which make this as offtopic and should be moved either to Blogs,
       Debates, or Offtopic forlder and if Debates folder then you lose
       because ignoring arguments/questions is inadequate. Also note
       that Ran k1 and skin color does not make anyone adequate and in
       this exmaple here it seems to have quite opposite correlation:
       the R1 owner is inadequate but others are not. We ca ndebate if
       you don't agree with all that was proved to you here or you
       reply with agreeing to stay adequate next.
       [quote author=RankedGood link=topic=144.msg839#msg839
       date=1668351254]
       why does "stats dont matter" always say the greatest losers??is
       there a reason for?its not racist or somthing you believe its
       just a fact that only winning is helping you get progress......
       Live with it or close your Eyes noob....
       Only answer when you are Rank 1 Fastmotion!
       Only then you are on my level
       [/quote]
       I can answer to your Stats matter question if you agree with
       Terms: be adequate, follow the Rules, etc. I have answered
       probably to your question somewhere already but it takes time to
       find it. The argument is popular in Wows community and also in
       outside the Wows. It sounds like: "why only poor/moneyless
       people complain and why they are not happy and quiet like maffia
       bosses and billionaires". Well ,we ca ndebate about it, but you
       must "pay" first for the debating by accepting rules.
       I see we have such  steps next:
       1. you agree with Rules and can continue here.
       2. you disagree and we move to the Debate room where you must
       agree with Rules and can chose 2 topics, for example about the
       maffia-idea, Human Rights, racism etc.
       3. you ran away and become silent. In that case we move your
       topic to the Debate room and write the review which says that
       you are the next exemplar from Wows community that proves all we
       have proved against the racist community.
       #Post#: 841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: RankedGod Al Dente Date: November 13, 2022, 9:39 am
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       There is one chance that you are allowed to write here... get
       rank 1 Gold..nothing more to show that you are able to play with
       skill....
       no need to debate or somthing like that...the stats show
       everything and if you are not able to play skillfull there is
       just no reason to talk to you...
       I am member of a high skillclan and why should i waste my time
       with people who dont understand simple tactics???
       #Post#: 842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: wows Date: November 13, 2022, 9:45 am
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       Because you violated repeatedly rules then we interpret your
       behaviour as answer Yes to the offer to move to the Debate room.
       Do you need any explanations about the rules we have in the
       Debates or have any other questions before we start?
       We can end the debate very quickly if you don't respond
       adequately alsready in this debate beginning phase.
       If you have any beginning questions about debate rules then ask.
       I will provide the debate rules next soon.
       Your acocunt has now the "Isolated" permission group which
       allows to post in the Debates folder and in the Isolated room
       folders but not elsewhere. If the Debate end successfully for
       you then we set a regular permisison set back to your account.
       #Post#: 843--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: Moderator1 Date: November 13, 2022, 9:54 am
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       Hi,
       Take your time and don't rush. Also don't worry because it is
       just a debate and nothing to lose.
       I provide you next all the rules and you can ask if you don't
       understand anything.
       Your account violated too many times too many rules and in Wows
       official forum you would be banned for so many violations. Here
       you have a chance to debate first and chose 2 debate topics.
       Appreciate that chance and the right to have rights that humans
       should have. We are above wows community and not brutal. For
       example you violated rules even with your account name but we
       are kind and ignore your such mistakes.
       I provide rules soon, no hurry.
       #Post#: 844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: wows Date: November 13, 2022, 11:08 am
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       We have folders: Debating Rules, forum Rules, but they are in
       the construction phase so if you don't understand then jsut ask
       and we explain the rules during the process.
       If you can imagine how people behave in courts then this is
       almsot like debates are done. One description is that try to be
       reasonable, adequate. For example is it reasonable if i call you
       as Noob or bad or negro here? No it is not reasonable and
       ethical, so don't do so. Behave also like you would liek to be
       treated by others.
       Do you agree to take money from us? We would like to give you if
       you allow in case you win the debate? If you ignore the question
       then we interpret it as Yes and wil lask later your detaisl
       where to send money.
       Your mentor/Judge is Moderator1 who is on your side and helps
       you with small questions and advises not to ignore arguments
       etc. If you are about to lose then you are entitled to ask him 1
       time a favour to help you in the argumentation. He will stand
       against the opponent/me with a bigger argument that he forms
       based on your previous input. Usually it means he provides a new
       argument to defend you or tries to debunk opoonents 1 argument.
       This is liek a one time big favour but al lthe time he gives
       small support to you and looks that the debate follows adequate
       rules.
       I suggest you to pick one such topic for the debate:
       1. right of speach should be denied
       2. beginners and other weaker part from the world including
       newborn babies should be discriminized
       3. poor people should shut up and become millionaires and learn
       from them to be silent and happy
       4. any other debunked Wows community opinion, like "Karma soup
       is good", "stats matter" etc
       Do you agree to take any of the above or pick another topic?
       About your forum topic:
       Your forum topic duplicated Rankeds topic and yours didn't
       provide any value/thoughts about Rankeds but the Moderator in
       your topic did. It is useless to create a topic in style "come
       and tell me here", instead, make a topic in style "my opinion is
       so and so, and now i ask you all too to come and give your
       opinion"- so you should give and not come to ask in topics/life.
       Also in this forum there are no Rank 1 members andn ot much
       members at all so your topic will stay empty very likely and at
       least provide yourself some ideas/thoughts about it. For example
       i have provided plenty of times ideas, tactics etc about
       Rankeds, including how to finish Gold league. It looks like the
       whole goal of yours was to come emotionally back to this forum
       after a previous bann and do harm to the moderator who banned
       you previously. Well, this is emotionally an unstable act and if
       we were on the Wows community level then we would say straight
       that your and Wows community mental health is not stable. If you
       really have some adequate goals in this forum then go ahead and
       show. Pick any topic and follow the rules just like others
       follow here.
       #Post#: 846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Gold 1 Ranked channel
       By: Moderator1 Date: November 13, 2022, 1:43 pm
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       Chose your one topic and rephrase it if you like. Don't take too
       general claims but try to narrow the statement to as narrow as
       possible. For example, don't pick a topic that "Speaking should
       be prohibited" but rephrase it like "Speaking should be
       prohibited to people who have been sentenced more than 4 years
       in prison in Iran". The latter one is much easier to
       defend/prove than the former one because it does not cover so
       many cases and things.
       Secondly, after you agree your topic try to stay on it and don't
       jump to other topics. Many defeated debators just shoot all
       emotions out and repeat all  different opinions instead of
       staying in just one agreed topic. Stay in one topic and provide
       arguments, explanations to it. If you jump to new topics then it
       means you lsot the debate.
       After the Judge/i decide that you lost the first topic then
       don't become emotional and jsut pick the 2nd topic and if you
       win the 2nd then there is a chance you to get your prizes
       (either you take money, or can take over the forum etc). So,
       don't give in after first round.
       Try to take time before you enter your reply. Don't skip your
       opponent's any thought, argument, question. Practically you
       almost quote every sentence he says. Obviously you can quote the
       whoel paragaph isntead if it contains 1 single idea or you have
       1 universal answer to every part of the paragraph.
       That's all i suggest in the begging. Feel free to post into this
       thread here or send messages to me and i help you. If you want
       to hear my honest opinion then you lose 90% likely because all
       other debators in the official forum and here have lost and you
       don't seem very strong compared to the defeated ones. Your
       statements in the beginning were very weak and typical too and
       more or less debunked in earlier debates. When you are in almost
       lost situation then i help you 1 time and take over and attack
       your opponent one time but very unlikely it would produce any
       significant victory.
       1-to-1 dialogue between you and your opponent and others are not
       allowed to enter here beside the Judge/me.
       Can you confirm that you understand everything and provide the
       topic you chose. Just take one fro mthe provided 4 and rephrase
       it or pick any sentence from your previous posts and let's
       start. If you don't respond then i declare the debate over and
       you lose it. I suggest to try at least and don't be scared.
       [quote author=RankedGood link=topic=144.msg841#msg841
       date=1668353953]
       There is one chance that you are allowed to write here... get
       rank 1 Gold..nothing more to show that you are able to play with
       skill....
       no need to debate or somthing like that...the stats show
       everything and if you are not able to play skillfull there is
       just no reason to talk to you...
       I am member of a high skillclan and why should i waste my time
       with people who dont understand simple tactics???
       [/quote]
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