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       Mafia conspiracy
       By: Dr Schizo Date: October 14, 2022, 10:14 am
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       [font=times new roman]Mafia[/font] - [font=times new
       roman]noun[/font]
       Definition of Mafia
       - a secret criminal society
       - a criminal organization associated with a particular traffic
       In World of Warships the Mafia counts as the destroyers. They
       hunt down every class with no remorse. They function as the
       determining factor in matches due to qualities such as
       concealment distance, long range torpedos and decent firepower
       (mostly from fire chance). The primary target of the Mafia is
       the Battleships, who have no counters against the Mafia. It runs
       in my blood.
       Mafia conspiracy
       Description: The enemy team will always have better DDs than
       your team. This results in fast losses since you lose on all
       spotting & capping since the team is allergic to torpedoes and
       mafia.
       Rarity: Uncommon
       Severity: Unbearable
       Example: The triple GURKA division in T10 DDs (Småland, Ragnar &
       Sherman) will dumpster your 3 undivisioned DDs (17900 shima, Z52
       that won’t use hydro & Gearing who donates his smoke). Your team
       will immediately run away to the map border and thus give up all
       map control. Usually the subject experiences a mind break that
       causes them to close down the game.
       Image as an illustration:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/QA28Opf
       It is not necessary to have any specific clan play the division,
       one team of DDs has to completelly stomp the other side. It is
       also very hard to test this theory out, you only have to find
       the matches by pure chance as you cannot determine what
       teammates/enemies you will have. I hope these findings are
       interesting, a lot of work went into this one. King regards.
       #Post#: 635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 14, 2022, 2:35 pm
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       I looked at your link and have seen similar links before and
       still doesn't understand how the contents of that link are
       adequate. You talk about a 3-player division and after that you
       represent a picture that show Karma Soup numbers. I don't
       understand how is the many times debunked Karma topic related to
       your 3-player platoon idea. Maybe the idea is that if 3 clan
       members play platoon in Randoms then their Karma will increase?
       If so, then, firstly, Karma soup doesn't mater just like Stats
       don't, and, Randoms are anyway at vry low level and chstotic
       compared to advanced game modes like Rankeds, so, int total,
       what is the point of talking about chaotic soup at all? Are you
       a stats-racist or a Karma-rapist? Or what is your point? In this
       forum we are above Karma and Stats and have explained plenty of
       times and ways why. Can you explain why you mention soup and
       what is the point of your theory? In my first opinion it does
       not matter what's going on in chatotic randoms, and does not
       matter which soup people eat/drink.
       the definition of terms, like destroyers, Maffia, seems to be
       irrelevant for your statement, and also faulty. The slang term
       "mind break" was interesting for me and i can define it better
       way than any Wikipedia or oenyclopedia can. In the primitive
       definition it is an orgasm, a pornographic term. I don't know
       why Wows community uses terms that they don't comprehend and why
       you are sometimes a typical expemplar of the racist sick
       community.
       At the end you say that all your theory is actually a nonsence
       and everything is just a chance. My response is to suggest to
       take debating and mindworks courses from me from this forum
       first because you seem to come to conclusions during writing
       that all your ideas were wrong, and thatwastes people's time.
       In very short, i say that your input has some proof that you
       have some intellectual abilities compared to wows community but
       you produced almost a nonsense. I hope it doesn't sound to o
       brutal to say so. not only you but also professors in the
       universities make such mistakes like you, for example many
       medical doctors made during the Covid virus. So, you and
       professors/scientists are not so bad, but i would expect little
       bit more.
       I can add ca 5 more aspects. But let's do shortly and little bit
       brutally:
       1. Find a guru who trains you next 4 years.
       2. Practice next 8 years to be adequate and also science and the
       things the guru suggests.
       3. Start mind-work beginning lessons. First start with what we
       teach in this forum- observation exercises.
       4. Try you strength every week against a guru. I am a guru, and
       i give you for free a fight onse a week but not more because
       your are Norhing with the capital N and i server Everything with
       the capital E- so i can't waste my energy to one newbie only but
       to all.
       This is my first feedback and i have nothing negative in it. I
       can provide you a video were an enlightened one suggest me to
       not be totally honest because pure honesty destroyes so strongly
       and causes big sufferings. But i have a different Opinion and i
       feel that you benefit more if i give you a brutal Truth as i
       did. So, be thankful and fine, don't stress, okay?
       #Post#: 636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: TaihouTiddyEnjoyer Date: October 14, 2022, 4:21 pm
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       I have destroyed me with those guy you talking about? How do
       find and stop?
       Lost game lots days lately
       #Post#: 637--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 14, 2022, 4:37 pm
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       [quote author=TaihouTiddyEnjoyer link=topic=116.msg636#msg636
       date=1665782477]
       I have destroyed me with those guy you talking about? How do
       find and stop?
       Lost game lots days lately
       [/quote]
       What do you mean?
       There are many wise sayings about loosing. One was soemthing
       like: you cannot lose things that you don't own/have. So, don't
       have goals/things that can lead to a loss. In entertainment one
       cannot lose anything, right? You enjoy every billiards round in
       the pub and every Wows battle and both make around 50.0% of win
       rbut you don't even recognise it if you truly enjoy the game.
       So, what can you lose there? Nothing.
       Can you say something aout the topic like i did?
       Do you agree to obey to the forum rules like i do? The rules
       shortly are, that you must be adequate, and doing personal
       attacks is not allowed. Seems like you are talking about a guy
       personally, this is not allowed. But maybe i didn't understand
       well, what was your point. Do you want we do an Interview where
       i determine if it is wise for you to stay in this forum or not?
       #Post#: 638--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: Dr Schizo Date: October 14, 2022, 6:23 pm
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       After reading your response to my work I have undertaken
       thoughts, considerations and steps to improve myself for the
       betterment of the scientific community. I want to methodically
       go through all your points on common grounds so we can all
       learn, because there seems to have been misunderstading and room
       for improvement.
       On the topic of 'Karma Soup'. It was not properly conveyed in
       the reserach why I used the 'soup' as a scientific indicator for
       the Mafia conspiracy. There are many reasons for this, which
       runs down double-fold. Personally, I use the Matchmaking
       Monitor, otherwise shortened to 'MM', as a visual indicator that
       is tied to danger levels. It can be easily used just visually,
       since red often means danger and something to avoid, while green
       is the opposite and should perceived as something positive. This
       can be applied to normal situations, like a traffic-light (red,
       yellow, green). You want to go on green but stop on red? If I
       were to apply your line of thinking, a team consisting of 'red'
       and 'yellow' would be considered a tomato soup (filled with
       traces of pasta). 'Purple' on the other hand can be seen as odd,
       especially given that it has a gradient of colours, because it
       doesn't equate to any special matching against another colour.
       Eggplant is the most equivalent, and I believe it should be
       avoided (it gives my stomach a run for its money). Whatever soup
       is being served will be interpreted with different feelings.
       Tomato soup with celery or pasta will fill your stomach
       differently, taste different depending on the spices used, it
       all makes sense in my head. Your comments about me being a
       'stat-racist' seem arbitrary, since I am not a believer of such
       nonsense. The usage of the 'soup' is simply for conveying
       feelings, not more, not less.
       The other aspect for the lack of explanations is my previous
       exposure to other colleauges within my field of work (in WoWs
       reserach). Terms like 'Mafia' applied to the class 'destroyers'
       may seem arbitrary, because in my original post it was. Often I
       use interchangeable theories and definitions that make sense in
       your head but not in writing unless properly described. This is
       obviously a shortcoming of the researched posted, as it is
       simply made and not within University guidelines (which should
       be used in interpretation and guidance, but obviously isn't a
       perfect method). The term originated from a battle (and
       interaction) with a particular enemy who hated the DDs in our
       team.
       What can be intersting from this interaction is new terms on my
       end. 'Karma rapist' is something I have never heard of before.
       From any point of view it can be considered as a horrible act,
       to violate another entity with an engagement. In a buddhist
       point of view, we can interpret the idea of this. "Everything is
       unsatisfactory, unsatisfactory depends on the desire, the
       unsatisfactory can cease, there is a way out of
       dissatisfaction." This can be transalted into 4 steps for the
       'Karma rapist':
       1) The principal is disturbed by lack of satisfaction
       2) The principal feels unsatisfied due to lack of his inner
       needs (degenerate ways of thinking).
       3) The principal can better himself, but deosn't do anything to
       fulfill this goal (he might not even see it) and instead go for
       devious acts.
       4) The principal doesn't see the way out of degenerate ways of
       thinking / acting.
       It will probably also depend on how heavy the karma is for the
       principal, maybe he had hurt other sentient beings in past lives
       and is being haunted by evil spirits.
       Continuing, your suggestions about mental exercises is already
       of great help. Even without subscribing to any trainings, this
       forum is already a mental exercise in itself. This is beneficial
       for both logics, deeper thoughts, and 'alternative'. In some
       sense, your website can be described as a 'yoga exercise' of the
       eastern type (not physical, but mental).
       I do believe that using gurus to improve can be beneficial, this
       response is an example of that. I will continue to contribute to
       the scientific community with following research, it will come
       so have something to look forward to.
       Lastly, what kind of video of enlightenment can you provide? I
       am interested.
       #Post#: 639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 15, 2022, 2:49 am
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       [quote author=Dr Schizo link=topic=116.msg632#msg632
       date=1665760486]
       [font=times new roman]Mafia[/font] - [font=times new
       roman]noun[/font]
       Definition of Mafia
       - a secret criminal society
       - a criminal organization associated with a particular traffic
       [/quote]
       Your definition of Mafia says mainly that it does crimes. All
       other parts of the definition text look wrong to me. For
       example, it is wrong to call a Maffia group as a Society or be
       kept in a Secret. All criminals benefit if their acts stay
       hidden as much as possible and historically gangs/groups were
       all known to the public and they were even proud of it. No
       secret keeping goals and no possibilty. Like the term Arcade is
       obsolete nowadays so is the term Mafia. Adequate terms to use:
       cartell, group, gang, criminal organization. Your definition of
       the term Mafia is wrong because there is no secret keeping
       aspect for that term, no society, and basically it sounds like
       "a criminal organization". Every shop can do small crimes
       nowadays and it does not sound reasonable to call them as
       Mafias.
       I found from Internet the place where you copied that faulty
       definition. I suggest that define yourself, because as you see
       Internet gives wrong definitions.
       1. Do you agree that your general definition for the Mafia is
       not adequate?
       Secondly you define a term Wows Mafia. You don't seem to benefit
       by defining first the general term Mafia. 2. Why to do something
       that has no benefit? It is like declaring a variable that you
       never use later.
       #Post#: 640--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 15, 2022, 8:15 am
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       [quote author=Dr Schizo link=topic=116.msg632#msg632
       date=1665760486]
       In World of Warships the Mafia counts as the destroyers.
       [/quote]
       In World of Warships and World of Tanks the term Mafia does not
       mean what you said. 3. Do you agree that it is a msitake to
       claim so?
       You should have just said that you define a new term for your
       next text and use it later.
       #Post#: 642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 15, 2022, 8:25 am
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       [quote author=Dr Schizo link=topic=116.msg632#msg632
       date=1665760486]
       ... the destroyers. They hunt down every class with no remorse.
       They function as the determining factor in matches due to
       qualities such as concealment distance, long range torpedos and
       decent firepower (mostly from fire chance). The primary target
       of the Mafia is the Battleships, who have no counters against
       the Mafia. It runs in my blood.
       [/quote]
       4. Can you prove that destroyer players have no regret/remorse?
       And what about other vehicle type players- do they all regret or
       not? In my opinion it is irrelevant if some players feels regret
       or other emotions, it doesn't affect the entertainment game and
       others at all. So, i don't understand why you mention the regret
       thing and why do you believe such emotion to occur at all for
       all DD players?
       You define destroyers as long range torpedo vehicles. 5. That
       definition isn't very accurate, don't you agree? Because there
       are cruisers with 20km range and DDs with no torps at all.
       6. You seem to define that DD's hunt down every class but isn't
       that definition for all ship types?
       You seem to say that DDs have good guns. 7. Don't you agree that
       this is not correct? Even the best gunboat DDs take very long
       time to kill an enemy BB with guns compared to other ship types.
       We can look some examples later.
       You say that BBs have no tools against DDs. 8. Can you prove
       that? All ship types have guns or torpedos and can shoot DDs.
       BBs have guns too against DDs, also secondaries and sometimes
       radar/hydro and torpedos and smoke.
       #Post#: 643--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 15, 2022, 8:35 am
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       [quote author=Dr Schizo link=topic=116.msg632#msg632
       date=1665760486]
       Description: The enemy team will always have better DDs than
       your team.
       [/quote]
       9. Do you agree that superwords like Always shouldn't be used?
       Specially not in science, but also not in debates too and we
       have even a clear rule about it as i rememeber.
       You are using a descriptive word "Better". Such words are
       subjective and using them is generally not adequate. I have
       explained somewhere why Wows community the term "a Good player"
       is wrong and the explanation here for your word Better is almost
       the same. A "better DD ship" is only 1 variable that determines
       success. Also a luck and tea mand player decicions affect the
       result. 10. That makes the phrase "a better DD" inadequate,
       don't you agree?
       #Post#: 644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mafia conspiracy
       By: wows Date: October 15, 2022, 8:52 am
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       [quote author=Dr Schizo link=topic=116.msg632#msg632
       date=1665760486]
       Description: The enemy team will always have better DDs than
       your team. This results in fast losses since you lose on all
       spotting & capping since the team is allergic to torpedoes and
       mafia.
       Rarity: Uncommon
       Severity: Unbearable
       Example: The triple GURKA division in T10 DDs (Småland, Ragnar &
       Sherman) will dumpster your 3 undivisioned DDs (17900 shima, Z52
       that won’t use hydro & Gearing who donates his smoke). Your team
       will immediately run away to the map border and thus give up all
       map control. Usually the subject experiences a mind break that
       causes them to close down the game.
       Image as an illustration:
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/QA28Opf
       [/quote]
       Your image does not illustrate what you said. You mentioned the
       clan Gurka, 3 ship names and other things but your picture
       doesn't show them. 11. Do you agree that your image does not
       illustrate and is misleading?
       I understand that your image has some kind of historical Stats
       and Karma points. Historical Stats are used soemtimes to predict
       the future but we have proved that stats don't matter and it is
       even written on a logo of this forum. We call Wows community
       stats-racist here as you know. 13. If you beleive that stats
       matter like your wows community does then your place is not in
       this forum, don't you agree?
       It is not suggested to use tools that show Karma soup etc like
       your picture. If some tools show players skin color and
       highschool grades then we don't suggest to use such tool either
       because all such things lead to racism etc sooner or later one
       or another ways. You may state that you are not racist but
       actually you are or becoming it if you have every day skin color
       info on the screen etc.
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