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       #Post#: 10614--------------------------------------------------
       FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: faethor47
       Date: September 18, 2014, 1:41 am
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       An open letter to OFF Members on a day that we have lost 4 good
       members and possibly more.
       I have written two long letters talking about why I love this
       game and why I love being part of a clan/club/squad/whatever.
       Both turned into something I didn't feel would get the point
       across, so this is what you get from a mere Jr member that is
       entirely invested in staying with a good group of people that I
       enjoy playing with.
       [center]TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM TREAT YOU. [/center]
       
       That is the whole point to my letter.  People are different, and
       guess what...
       [center]YOU ARE DIFFERENT TOO. [/center]
       
       If you feel that you should be accepted and respected then begin
       with accepting and respecting  others.
       Now for the rest:
       What exactly do we need a board of directors for?  If you can
       make a legitimate list of why we need this, then by all means,
       do it.  With all respect to the BoD, you shouldn't have to
       babysit a bunch of grown ups.
       Why do we need people that are designated as staff?  We don't
       train because we don't have clan wars.  We all (every damn one
       of us) give pointers and help people when they ask and I'm yet
       to meet an OFFer that isn't friendly to new people when they
       come aboard.
       We have one thing that needs a small amount of maintenance and
       that's the forum.  There are people with lots of time on their
       hands that are happy to help with this.  Somebody is always
       willing to help with these types of things.
       Elect a president for the club and that person can poll trusted
       players for input on new members and a decision can be made from
       there.  If clan wars should ever materialize, then ask for a
       couple of match coordinators.  I'm certain we can find someone
       to help with this if and when it becomes a real thing.
       This shouldn't be work.  This shouldn't be stressful.  This
       shouldn't be an issue.
       If you offend someone, own it and apologize.
       If somebody apologizes to you, accept it at face value  and let
       it go.
       Have fun.  Shoot reds.  Laugh.  Bust balls.  Virtual high fives
       all around.  Say goodnight.  Repeat as needed or when you need a
       good laugh.
       The more complicated we make things, the less we enjoy doing
       them.  These clubs evolve just like games do.  Why do we need to
       stay static while the game we play constantly changes?
       Perhaps it's time to simplify this clan.
       Your friend,
       Faethor47
       
       #Post#: 10615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: Daswagdaddy101
       Date: September 18, 2014, 1:58 am
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       There you go asking old farts to act like adults..... :thumb:
       #Post#: 10616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: PreachingNut77
       Date: September 18, 2014, 2:09 am
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       Having been rather busy(only been lone wolfing ....) who have we
       lost....
       #Post#: 10617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: xllevsllx
       Date: September 18, 2014, 3:42 am
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       Ok, I've not checked on the forum for a while .. and wasn't
       aware that we had lost another 4 members.
       I was aware that 2 had left when they sent me a message on XBL,
       one stating the reasons why he left and that he still wanted to
       platoon with me and other gaming stuff.
       If what he states is true and i understand there are two sides
       to every debate / argument .. then i have grave concerns on
       what's gone on.
       I won't post their comments, since i would like a statement from
       the BOD on what's happened and then i will reply directly to
       them via PM.
       #Post#: 10618--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: September 18, 2014, 6:11 am
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       I'll respond more in depth later, but for now I'd just like to
       note that if we could trust everyone to act like goddamn adults
       there would never have been all this bullshit drama in the first
       place.
       And yet...
       Yes, I'm pissed. Not at you, Faethor, but at the fact there is
       no way we can win. If we do what some want, people leave. We do
       what others want, another group leaves. It just doesn't
       matter--someone will always be mad they didn't get their way.
       Anyway...I'll share more when I get on a PC vs my phone.
       #Post#: 10620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: Greyza Badger
       Date: September 18, 2014, 6:24 am
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       Why does it matter to people that they 'get their way' on a
       forum designed to team-up like minded old farts to play a game
       with tanks in it? :sceptic:
       Jebus, some folk need a bit of perspective. Think of all the
       crap going on in the world and then compare that to your
       inconsequential gripes and "he said, she said" squabbles that
       revolve around PLAYING A FUCKING GAME!
       I don't often get too annoyed with this sort of stuff, and there
       is an argument that I don't know people well enough to comment,
       but for (insert name of preferred deity)'s sake it's enough to
       drive you to drink.
       My dad has a saying when he can't understand how people act.  It
       goes, "It's a wonder I don't shake my head off."
       I can see where the old bugger is coming from.
       Now, settle down and stop your grumbling you daft old sods.
       #Post#: 10622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: September 18, 2014, 6:29 am
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       Your attitude is 100% spot on, Greyza. :thumb:
       It's a shame more don't have it.
       #Post#: 10626--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: john
       Date: September 18, 2014, 7:04 am
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       i forgot getting old  :old: here to support my clan and friends
       all of you .i like hearing you laugh and share. play good and
       not so good tanks together your my family.  :headbang: bless you
       all JOHN
       #Post#: 10627--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: OldFatBaldDude
       Date: September 18, 2014, 7:18 am
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       When I first joined the clan in April it was all so simple. We
       partied, platooned, and killed red tanks. I have been trying to
       figure out what went wrong. I have it.
       Feathor you are right. Keep it simple. All of the heartache
       started when the BoD sent that e- mail about cliques forming in
       the clan and how we can't have that. Everyone that has been here
       since the begging of June ( very few of us now ) think about
       this and you will realize that I am right. I
       The BoD started the ball rolling on all the crap that has gone
       on since then.
       I have said to much and better stop before....
       #Post#: 10630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
   DIR By: PreachingNut77
       Date: September 18, 2014, 7:29 am
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       --- Quote from: OldFatBaldDude link ---
       >
       > When I first joined the clan in April it was all so simple. We
       partied, platooned, and killed red tanks. I have been trying to
       figure out what went wrong. I have it.
       > Feathor you are right. Keep it simple. All of the heartache
       started when the BoD sent that e- mail about cliques forming in
       the clan and how we can't have that. Everyone that has been here
       since the begging of June ( very few of us now ) think about
       this and you will realize that I am right. I
       > The BoD started the ball rolling on all the crap that has gone
       on since then.
       > I have said to much and better stop before....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure if this is the only reason...but defiantly one of them.
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