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       #Post#: 8087--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: ReverendBeast
       Date: August 27, 2014, 9:09 am
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       --- Quote from: xllevsllx link ---
       >
       > So, why do we have this enabled on the forum ?
       >
       > I've been involved in many groups / clans in the past and
       having this option within a forum has always been a contentious
       issue .. why have it.
       >
       > if you like a post and find it helpful, then post on the
       thread stating that
       >
       > if you don't like it say the same .. but least give a reason
       >
       > Having Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF enabled is a cowards
       way to enter a debate and seeing that some members have -80
       points, to me it has no credibility and should be disabled.
       >
       > therefore i like to ask members their thoughts
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am trying to understand your point of view.  I just can't put
       a neg vote together with bullying...  If anyone's ego is fragile
       enough to be intimidated by a neg vote.  I think there are other
       problems that would be better dealt with by a professional in
       the medical field. Not to demean any who seek professional help,
       to the contrary, Kudos to them/us!
       Come on!  Is this O.F.F. or kindergarten?  BOO HOO, someone
       doesn't like me!
       Like I said, I am trying to see your point, but I just can't
       grasp it...  "Slap my face an' roll me in the mud"; I guess I'm
       dense enough to not get it...
       I just voted "that one bounced" on your status, see no bullying,
       I just don't think you were a "direct hit"...  Just my opinion,
       not a cross word or threat of physical or psychological
       intimidation from my part...  If you perceive that as a
       threat... It is your perception that is the problem...
       Those are my thoughts...
       #Post#: 8097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: xllevsllx
       Date: August 27, 2014, 10:09 am
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       I take it then that when you see somebody singled out for
       whatever reason and in the case of a negative vote, is not a
       type of bullying, then thats is your choice.
       As for the negative vote you gave me, least you was honest
       enough to admit it, it doesn't bother me one bit if i'm negative
       or positive .. the discussion here is if it is a benefit to the
       group and i've stated no.
       for the record, i deal with with groups of suicidal and highly
       depressed individuals,  ( who are often bullied or have been
       bullied ) has a volunteer so am aware that people do take things
       personally , even if we as individuals think our actions are
       insignificant
       #Post#: 8098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: SIERRASTRIKE
       Date: August 27, 2014, 10:12 am
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       I thought it was a constructive, anonymous, and passive way of
       agreeing or disagreeing with someone. I think it keeps arguments
       and trolling from happening. There is no repercussions for
       having -90 votes so does it really matter. I will continue to
       use this system until it is put to a vote and removed or
       shut-off. A lot of times I will go 1 step further and actually
       comment with"Direct Hit, Captain!!!" We are all allowed to agree
       or disagree without arguing or explaining why. However u can
       always ask me and I will tell you. If I were to make
       inflammatory remarks in a large group like this and offend or
       argue/disagree with several people I would expect to see my +/-
       rating suffer. That being said it wouldn't keep me up at night
       either. It would just show not everyone agrees with me. They
       have a word for that.
       It's called LIFE.
       #Post#: 8099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: August 27, 2014, 10:16 am
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       I have just put a poll up to gauge whether or not the Membership
       would like to keep this part of the OFF Forum.
       #Post#: 8100--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: jarhead2097
       Date: August 27, 2014, 10:18 am
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       woo hoo! 1 vote and at 100% yes
       #Post#: 8102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: ReverendBeast
       Date: August 27, 2014, 10:41 am
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       --- Quote from: xllevsllx link ---
       >
       > I take it then that when you see somebody singled out for
       whatever reason and in the case of a negative vote, is not a
       type of bullying, then thats is your choice.
       >
       > As for the negative vote you gave me, least you was honest
       enough to admit it, it doesn't bother me one bit if i'm negative
       or positive .. the discussion here is if it is a benefit to the
       group and i've stated no.
       >
       > for the record, i deal with with groups of suicidal and highly
       depressed individuals,  ( who are often bullied or have been
       bullied ) has a volunteer so am aware that people do take things
       personally , even if we as individuals think our actions are
       insignificant
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See, that is my whole premise in your first sentence, "singled
       out for whatever reason".  No, someone posted something on a
       forum...  They put their thoughts out to the public/forum...
       Forum members decide...  Hit or Bounce...  How is that even
       close to an attack on the posters ego???
       You conflate the topic with suicidal personalities!  WOW! (I
       Bounced voted your reply for this).
       My goodness!  I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a
       mole hill...
       Perspective,perspective,perspective....  Sorry, but there is no
       way I can see what you are driving at...
       I agree to disagree with you on this one!
       Does not mean I would not kill reds with ya'!
       #Post#: 8105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: SIERRASTRIKE
       Date: August 27, 2014, 11:00 am
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       #Post#: 8107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: xllevsllx
       Date: August 27, 2014, 11:09 am
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       --- Quote from: ReverendBeast link ---
       >
       > [quote author=xllevsllx link=topic=667.msg8097#msg8097
       date=1409152146]
       > I take it then that when you see somebody singled out for
       whatever reason and in the case of a negative vote, is not a
       type of bullying, then thats is your choice.
       >
       > As for the negative vote you gave me, least you was honest
       enough to admit it, it doesn't bother me one bit if i'm negative
       or positive .. the discussion here is if it is a benefit to the
       group and i've stated no.
       >
       > for the record, i deal with with groups of suicidal and highly
       depressed individuals,  ( who are often bullied or have been
       bullied ) has a volunteer so am aware that people do take things
       personally , even if we as individuals think our actions are
       insignificant
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See, that is my whole premise in your first sentence, "singled
       out for whatever reason".  No, someone posted something on a
       forum...  They put their thoughts out to the public/forum...
       Forum members decide...  Hit or Bounce...  How is that even
       close to an attack on the posters ego???
       You conflate the topic with suicidal personalities!  WOW! (I
       Bounced voted your reply for this).
       My goodness!  I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a
       mole hill...
       Perspective,perspective,perspective....  Sorry, but there is no
       way I can see what you are driving at...
       I agree to disagree with you on this one!
       Does not mean I would not kill reds with ya'!
       [/quote]
       I think you missed the point with the suicidal statement, i'm
       pretty sure that a bounce vote wouldn't drive somebody to that
       extreme !!
       The statement was around my volunteer work and that what we see
       as a nothing action, others in a more fragile state might not ..
       it's what i have experienced during my sessions i have had with
       them. But least i can understand why you might have
       misunderstood the comment.
       maybe a way forward then would be a compromise on the ability to
       bounce or not .. say a limit you can bounce per day or increase
       the time limit.
       we're not going to agree on everything, although i won't bounce
       you this time ;-) .. but we can agree on killing reds, not an
       issue with that!!
       #Post#: 8110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: koldfront kraig
       Date: August 27, 2014, 11:13 am
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       --- Quote from: xllevsllx link ---
       >
       > given i have go 2 negative feedback since posting this goes to
       show 2 things.
       >
       > It's being used as a forerunner to bullying and trying to make
       people feel uncomfortable
       >
       > somebody is a coward
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Bullying?
       I'm not sure how someone can bully me by disagreeing with what
       I say.
       I'd give you a "that one bounced" for that statement.
       
       #Post#: 8112--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Direct Hit! That One Bounced OFF
   DIR By: Remy1974
       Date: August 27, 2014, 11:20 am
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       I really have nothing to add but I'm just going to say I agree
       with Phunk and the others who agree with Phunk and go ahead and
       make this thread alot more cluttered and harder to navigate to
       the point where no one will probably even read it all including
       this post. /Sarcasm.
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