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       #Post#: 795--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Godfather 1965
       Date: July 8, 2014, 2:37 pm
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       Ran 2 games with the newly nerfed vk36 and sold it...aaaaaargh.
       Why oh why.....lol
       What's next making the jumbo paper thin as well....lol
       #Post#: 801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: ALLEYCAT 67
       Date: July 8, 2014, 3:47 pm
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       Just played 3 games in the VK 36 and I'm not selling it just
       yet.  Maybe it's my lack of finesse but I don't see a huge
       difference from before the update.  Pens well shooting premium
       ammo.  It may be a little softer but the hit points are up to
       950 now.
       #Post#: 837--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Cernig10
       Date: July 8, 2014, 6:53 pm
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       Alleycat, the difference will become obvious when you and
       another VK36 are your team's only tier VI heavies in a tier VI
       game and the other side has two KV1S heavies instead. That
       happened to me. We lost. Although I was still top damager on my
       team (small comfort).
       #Post#: 839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: N1ckelsNd1mes
       Date: July 8, 2014, 7:01 pm
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       Update installing now and as an avid and VK36 lover I am so sad
       to be reading all this. It's like the end of Cheers all over
       again  :arty:
       #Post#: 844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: N1ckelsNd1mes
       Date: July 8, 2014, 7:45 pm
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       First mission 4 kills. To tier. Lots of damage done. Feels
       slower. But not bad.
       #Post#: 848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Panz3rChief
       Date: July 8, 2014, 8:36 pm
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       As Cernig says though: wait until you're the only heavies
       matched against a couple of KV1S's. You always needed a couple
       of good heavies to go against them and you could support in the
       VK.
       #Post#: 851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: SixthSubset765
       Date: July 8, 2014, 9:28 pm
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       I checked out the wotdb site.  @ Tier V there is the VK 30.01
       (H).  This looks like the nerfed version of the VK 30.
       @ Tier V, it looks like the VK 30.01 (P) is the speedy version
       or what was the original VK 30.  For the VK 36, there is a
       Medium and a Heavy:  VK 36.01 (H) and VK 36.02 (M).  The VK
       36.02 (M) seems to be the version that got the armor and guns of
       the original VK 30; while the VK 36.01 (H) may be unchanged.
       I defer to all the clan members for comments; these are just my
       observations.
       I'll have a better idea tonight or when I next have an
       opportunity to run about with my VK 36 that I obtained just
       before the 1.3 update.  Since I had only 2 battles @50%; if I
       get toasted from this point on then I know the VK 36 is nerfed.
       However, as a collector, this really irks because I previously
       had to grind to obtain two $$$$$$ (expensive) tanks; now there
       are four $$$$$ tanks in this line.
       #Post#: 853--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Knight of Annwn
       Date: July 8, 2014, 10:02 pm
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       A few questiona if I may, now the Angel of Death has passed o'er
       the German garages we have a new toy, namely the VK30.02M. On my
       VK30 I had every item possible (YEAH. he was a damn good tank
       salesroom guy even though the mudflaps keep getting ripped
       off!!) So If I had the L70 on my VK and also have it on the
       preceding Panther why the hell do I have to buy it again....
       Question 2. As I own the Panther and therfore obviously
       researched it before I bought it from the VK30 why is the new M
       not an Elite???
       :unsure:
       #Post#: 877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Cernig10
       Date: July 9, 2014, 12:49 am
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       I sold me VK36.  :sad:
       #Post#: 895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VK 30.01 and VK36.01 Heavies???
   DIR By: Panz3rChief
       Date: July 9, 2014, 8:18 am
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       First (and only) battle tonight with the VK and I go up against
       a couple of KV1S's and a Black Prince and an M6. Such crap. The
       KV's are already over powered in their tiers I reckon and this
       update gives them a Pen bump. WTH!
       I bounced a couple of shots off a KV1S which wasn't even hull
       down and then he just went to town on me with his new gun.
       I know this is PC and not Xbox but this site looks at battle
       stats and of course in the tier it shows the KV1S on top. THe OP
       rating on the KV1S is 612 versus 520 for the VK36 heavy. Why
       would you buff a top performing tank?
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