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       #Post#: 7273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: Daswagdaddy101
       Date: August 22, 2014, 10:52 am
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       --- Quote from: cheesie burrito link ---
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       > Hmmmmm,  not directed at robert.
       >
       >
       > Just shaking my head here :palm:
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       > The board isnt following there own rules
       >
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       TKE919 Spot on brother!
       I hate to say this but I'm about ready to bail myself and go
       back to running solo. This being my first clan and I'm not
       digging the drama.  I have a bunch of members I love running
       with but.....
       I think the board needs to look at themselves hard over this.
       Not to be a dick here but do we have the right people or enough
       people on it? Do we need a group of senior members that have
       oversight on the BOD?  I'm not being judgemental because BOD is
       not a position I'd want for this very reason: you have to live
       with your decisions right or wrong.
       Do you remember why we joined OF&F. Have fun gaming with like
       minded folks. I think that with the vast expansion of the clan
       we are losing track of that somewhat. Clan wars have started
       already and we are our own enemy at this point. I'd hate that
       Tink is gone, I don't want to see Robert to leave because even
       if he gave bad advice the BOD members made the decision not him.
       It wasn't his call.
       Fix this clusterfuck please before we lose more original members
       --- Quote from: oxidative stres link ---
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       > True, the board was not consulted, in full, prior to Tink
       being locked out.  As a result, the board didn't  follow its own
       rules.  It was obviously a mistake, which was admitted to in
       very sincere apology, with a vow that this will not happen
       again.  All of the Board has been put on notice, myself
       included, that this type of unilateral action cannot happen
       again.  Mistakes happen.  We all have lapses in judgment.  We
       are all not perfect.  We just need to make sure that his doesn't
       happen again.  If it does, then there should be consequences for
       the board.
       >
       > We are in the process of updating and revising the Clan policy
       document, denoting rights and responsibilities.  All members
       will have a chance to review and comment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hmmm hopefully this will address this
       #Post#: 7276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: ReverendBeast
       Date: August 22, 2014, 10:55 am
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       How about everyone step back, take a deep breath and listen to
       some Marley :thumb:
       Seriously, folks we are adults.  On the whole; this is nothing
       compared to the trails and tribulations we have seen and endured
       as OOFer's
       :smileplain:
       Click the Link...
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmwue6Jq4KA
       #Post#: 7277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: jarhead2097
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:01 am
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       :pissed:
       Being only 42, I am one of the younger OFF members, but I did
       graduate high school in 1990.
       Get the over yourselves already... I am so tired of seeing this
       bullshit... Booo fucking hoo! I hurt your feelings. You hurt my
       feelings! You helped start this clan. You joined in March...
       You've been here 6 months... Who the hell cares. I park my T95
       next to your T95 and it still looks like the same T95.
       I joined up with OFF to get playing with the same people and
       eliminate the random retard as much as possible.
       We had a phrase in the Marines... Suck it the fuck up!
       Am I too political?  :fuckyou:
       Are my views on the 2nd amendment not in line with your's?
       :fuckyou:
       Did I tell a dirty joke?  :fuckyou:
       Did I say something to cause butt hurt?  :fuckyou: (x2)
       There are a few core players that keep me here because I enjoy
       their company on the battlefield, they compliment my play style
       and we click.
       I have just as many problems as everyone else if not more. I use
       this game to escape reality. This bullshit makes me sick.
       :puke:
       If I feel the need to change who I am to fit in, I don't fit in.
       #Post#: 7278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: Greyza Badger
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:02 am
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       As a slight aside to all the self-flagellation, accusations,
       judging and mea culpas going on, shouldn't this all be handle in
       a NON-PUBLIC part of the forum?
       I think, in general, the forum is way too open to the general
       public. This, and other conversations, should be handled behind
       closed doors.
       Yes, have a public face that describes who/what OFF is but, once
       in, members should have somewhere where they can go to say stuff
       they wouldn't normally say in a public space.
       Keep the dirty laundry out of public view.
       #Post#: 7279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:03 am
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       I have spoken with Tink and there are others (Evs, Phunk) in
       regular contact with him.  He knows about the formal apology and
       I will be following up with him. It is the least we can do.
       #Post#: 7281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Greyza Badger link ---
       >
       > As a slight aside to all the self-flagellation, accusations,
       judging and mea culpas going on, shouldn't this all be handle in
       a NON-PUBLIC part of the forum?
       >
       > I think, in general, the forum is way too open to the general
       public. This, and other conversations, should be handled behind
       closed doors.
       >
       > Yes, have a public face that describes who/what OFF is but,
       once in, members should have somewhere where they can go to say
       stuff they wouldn't normally say in a public space.
       >
       > Keep the dirty laundry out of public view.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Greyza, Many of these conversations do occur outside of the
       public space. We also have the ability to create private chats
       in the chat room if that is something people are looking to do.
       #Post#: 7283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: ta2dflip
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:12 am
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       --- Quote from: jarhead2097 link ---
       >
       > wotoff
       >
       > Being only 42, I am one of the younger OFF members, but I did
       graduate high school in 1990.
       >
       > Get the over yourselves already... I am so tired of seeing
       this bullshit... Booo fucking hoo! I hurt your feelings. You
       hurt my feelings! You helped start this clan. You joined in
       March... You've been here 6 months... Who the hell cares. I park
       my T95 next to your T95 and it still looks like the same T95.
       >
       > I joined up with OFF to get playing with the same people and
       eliminate the random retard as much as possible.
       >
       > We had a phrase in the Marines... Suck in the up!
       >
       > Am I too political? wotoff
       > Are my views on the 2nd amendment not in line with your's?
       wotoff
       > Did I tell a dirty joke? wotoff
       > Did I say something to cause butt hurt? wotoff(x2)
       >
       > There are a few core players that keep me here because I enjoy
       their company on the battlefield, they compliment my play style
       and we click.
       > I have just as many problems as everyone else if not more. I
       use this game to escape reality. This bullshit makes me sick.
       wotoff
       >
       > If I feel the need to change who I am to fit in, I don't fit
       in.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       One word for how absolutely accurate this is, brace yo selves
       cause here it comes...BOOM! wotoffWe have members that want to
       quit the clan because of drama, the drama queens are winning
       folks. Take a long look at this thread and then get the f*&k on
       with it!
       #Post#: 7284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: xllevsllx
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:17 am
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       I think i have kept what happened private in the interest of all
       parties and that includes the whole group so that this thread
       doesn't get out of hand. I felt with everything privately and
       will remain that way
       #Post#: 7300--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: Dry0atmeal
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:51 am
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       Can we lock this thread down please?
       #Post#: 7302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Apology to the Entire Membership
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: August 22, 2014, 11:52 am
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       Gonna move it to the members only section ...
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