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Historical Battles Discussion
By: Maddog STS Date: December 18, 2016, 4:49 pm
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[quote author=DaGeneralissimo link=topic=4184.msg67111#msg67111
date=1482092512]
Actually NO SNS this coming Saturday. Go spend real quality time
with your family and friends.
[quote author=DaGeneralissimo link=topic=4184.msg67110#msg67110
date=1482092437]
Cue historical researcher!!!
[quote author=TRIUMPH Cowboy7 link=topic=4184.msg67093#msg67093
date=1482074539]
So, what are your plans for the next SNS?
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[/quote]
[/quote]
Who are these "family & friends" you speak of? :confused:
What about Friday night (12/23)?
How about something desert related? First Battle of El Alamein,
Second Battle of El Alamein, Battle of Gazala, Operation
Crusader, Operation Battleaxe, Operation Torch, Battle of Alam
el Halfa, Operation Brevity, Battle of Kasserine Pass, or Battle
of Bardia are some that come to mind. All had armor from German
and Italian forces on the Axis side, and depending on the
battle, British, American, Australian, and Free French on the
Allied side.
For example, for the Battle of Brevity, the German armor
consisted of the 2nd Battalion of the 5th Panzer Regiment.
During the month of May '41 when the battle took place, the last
known strength of this unit was 30 Pz I Ausf A (Tier II, final
package), 41 Pz II Ausf G (Tier III, final pack.), 74 Pz III
Medium tanks (Tier IV, 1st pack.), and 20 Pz IV Medium tanks
Ausf H (F2) (Tier V, 2nd pack.).
British armored units present were the 22nd Guards Brigade and
the 7th Armored Division, consisting of 24 Matilda tanks (Tier
IV, final pack.) and 29 Cruiser Mk IV tanks (Tier III, 3rd
pack.).
#Post#: 67119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: AaaaaaandImDone Date: December 18, 2016, 5:38 pm
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Thank you Ken, once again a very successful SNS. The Allied
team had fun and laughs.....kudos! :salute:
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: James0243 Date: December 18, 2016, 6:05 pm
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[quote author=TRIUMPH Cowboy7 link=topic=4184.msg67114#msg67114
date=1482094261]
James, I didn't intend to give you hell! Just wanted the 360
guys to stick with group and work as a team. Once we did that we
defeated the Germans
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I was being cheeky, indeed your correct.
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: Maddog STS Date: December 18, 2016, 6:13 pm
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[quote author=James0243 link=topic=4184.msg67120#msg67120
date=1482105946]
[quote author=TRIUMPH Cowboy7 link=topic=4184.msg67114#msg67114
date=1482094261]
James, I didn't intend to give you hell! Just wanted the 360
guys to stick with group and work as a team. Once we did that we
defeated the Germans
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
[/quote]
I was being cheeky, indeed your correct.
[/quote]
you're, not your
:troll:
#Post#: 67128--------------------------------------------------
Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: MickeysGrenade Date: December 19, 2016, 2:52 am
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Really like Chuck 's idea! Love to see some battles with tanks
that actually had some real numbers in WWII. Would also be nice
to see these low tier vehicles driven with seriousness and
caution like the real ones were.
#Post#: 67130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: FhYikGwAlOU Date: December 19, 2016, 7:54 am
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Thanks Chuck - that is exactly what we need - a breakdown of the
vehicles involved so that we incorporate the ratios into our
battle.
Like John, i would welcome a chance to play a competitive match
with these vehicles. Plus if anyone had to purchase vehicles
back to have the right tanks it should not be too expensive or
an issue whether they have been opened up.
Where were you able to find the tank listings? I had tried
finding a breakdown like this for the Bulge, but with no luck.
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: Maddog STS Date: December 19, 2016, 10:00 am
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[quote author=OldRugger51 link=topic=4184.msg67130#msg67130
date=1482155678]
Thanks Chuck - that is exactly what we need - a breakdown of the
vehicles involved so that we incorporate the ratios into our
battle.
Like John, i would welcome a chance to play a competitive match
with these vehicles. Plus if anyone had to purchase vehicles
back to have the right tanks it should not be too expensive or
an issue whether they have been opened up.
Where were you able to find the tank listings? I had tried
finding a breakdown like this for the Bulge, but with no
luck.[/quote]
Brad, what particular area or time period of the campaign do you
want?
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: FhYikGwAlOU Date: December 19, 2016, 11:35 am
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Dunno - couldn't find Battle of Brevity (thought that was an odd
name since i had not heard of it :sceptic: ) but there was
Operation Brevity which you mentioned
earlier.....
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Brevity
The one you mentioned is fine, as explained in the wiki article.
Did like seeing that Skorpion Pass is obviously based on the
German follow up operation to re-capture the Halfaya Pass -
Operation Skorpion......the map still sucks though.
Great news is that there were so many armor encounters that we
have a basically unlimited resource of options. The Middle
eastern campaigns you mentioned are a good start, but the
earlier Battle of France and Operation Barbarossa would allow us
to play lower tier tanks in historical settings. And, would also
give us the same benefits of avoiding having to have spend gobs
of silvers for repurchases or having most, if not all, of the
vehicles opened up.
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: SgtEhrenfried Date: December 19, 2016, 12:00 pm
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We could do like a series of these. Starting towards the
beginning of the war with the French fall and British withdraw.
Then move up the time line with newer tanks and maps.
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Re: Historical Battles Discussion
By: Maddog STS Date: December 19, 2016, 12:11 pm
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@Brad, Operation Brevity is correct...transposed "Battle of"
instead of Operation...age showing :old:
Yes, most of my info came from Wiki, but there are a ton of
records out there just waiting to be sourced for Clan activities
such as these. For example, my wife was able to track her
father's progress through France until getting wounded in April
'45, just by looking up unit records and written accounts of the
engagements he was involved in. For the above information on the
German TOE, I used this site: Niemack's Place
HTML http://users.skynet.be/niemacks_place/.
Wiki actually gives the British TOE on their page.
@Dale, that is an excellent idea! I would shift "wife time" to
another evening for sure :thumb:
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