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       #Post#: 66837--------------------------------------------------
       Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: richietea2007
       Date: December 14, 2016, 4:10 am
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       Quite suprised Wot have not done anything special for the battle
       of the bulge 16th December.Something on the lines of a few ops
       for German and allied tanking.Even rolling through bastogne or
       the ardennes forest in thick fog.What are your thoughts?
       #Post#: 66841--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: December 14, 2016, 7:49 am
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       Just the thing for SNS this Saturday?
       Tier VI Shermans vs Tigers/Hammers and Tiger II's. The Germans
       assault first with the Allies defending and thenthe other way
       around?
       Since there are now lots of snow maps, this might even look
       authentic.
       
       --- Quote from: richietea2007 link ---
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       > Quite suprised Wot have not done anything special for the
       battle of the bulge 16th December.Something on the lines of a
       few ops for German and allied tanking.Even rolling through
       bastogne or the ardennes forest in thick fog.What are your
       thoughts?
       >
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       #Post#: 66842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: richietea2007
       Date: December 14, 2016, 9:02 am
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       Good thinking batman..Also churchills, valentines,cromwells and
       panthers were involved in the battle as well.
       #Post#: 66843--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: FhYikGwAlOU
       Date: December 14, 2016, 10:28 am
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       Discussions about the tanks used in the Battle of the Bulge are
       often erroneous. They normally center around the “sexy”
       Panthers,  Tigers and Tiger IIs. Most German tanks used were
       assault guns – the variants of the StuG being most used - and
       also a large number of PzIVs, then progressively lower numbers
       of Panthers, Tigers and Tiger IIs. There were units spearheaded
       with Panthers and a few Tigers, but most of the follow up
       vehicles were the much more common “unsexy” PzIVs and assault
       guns.
       The main issue which caused them to structure their tank use
       this way was fuel consumption and heavy tank reliability, which
       relegated the big tanks to reserve roles waiting for the
       breakout (and capture of Allied fuel supplies) towards Antwerp.
       As an example, a Tiger II used a gallon of fuel to go 800
       meters…if it didn’t breakdown.
       Eventually, when the Allied troops were able to turn the tide,
       they ran into the vehicles held in reserve, but a lot of them
       were abandoned, immobile due to lack of fuel or decimated by
       allied air power.
       A lot of verbiage, but I thought I would mention this when we
       are considering the make-up of an SNS.
       #Post#: 66844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: December 14, 2016, 10:47 am
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       I'm aware there were many other types of tanks at the battle,
       but balancing more than 2-3 types a side is a pain in the ass,
       hence the Sherman/Firefly/Boilermaker vs Tiger I/Hammer and
       Tiger II lineup.
       *Edit. Maybe we can sprinkle a few Tier V Germans in and have
       fewer VII and VIIIs.
       #Post#: 66845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: Duckman31998
       Date: December 14, 2016, 10:59 am
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       Sounds fun.
       #Post#: 66846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: FhYikGwAlOU
       Date: December 14, 2016, 11:18 am
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       I was just mentioning stuff....based on how well you have set up
       the past SNS's i am sure this will be equally excellent.
       #Post#: 66847--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: December 14, 2016, 11:22 am
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       It was appreciated Brad, but like you've mentioned before, our
       people are harder to heard than cats! :superdrunk:
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       > I was just mentioning stuff....based on how well you have set
       up the past SNS's i am sure this will be equally excellent.
       >
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       #Post#: 66848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: December 14, 2016, 11:25 am
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       Sounds like a blast.  Make it so Generalissimo!
       #Post#: 66850--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Commiserate or celebrations.
   DIR By: SgtEhrenfried
       Date: December 14, 2016, 12:11 pm
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       Sounds fun. Wouldn't mind getting into this one.
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