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       #Post#: 58141--------------------------------------------------
       The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: guest504
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:09 am
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       Over the past couple days it's come to my attention that we have
       some players that aren't big fans of artillery.  No problem
       there - we all have things we find annoying about WoT.
       We also have some members (including a couple new ones) that
       play artillery as their prefered tank.  Also no problem there -
       we all have different things we like.
       The problem we DO have is that some of our members that don't
       like arty are getting so vocal about it that I've heard members
       talking about leaving OFF because they feel like they aren't
       welcome here.
       This is a problem.
       So I thought perhaps we could hash this out a little and come to
       an agreement that lets everyone get along.  I think we have 2
       key points:
       1) Let's all keep in mind that when we're complaining about arty
       that we should be careful to remember not to go over the top.
       2) If you have someone running arty in your platoon, you WILL
       face arty on the other team every battle.  Some OFFers like the
       occasional break from arty you get every 3-5 matches when you
       have a platoon that doesn't include arty.  How do we make sure
       everyone in a platoon is cool with having arty support in the
       platoon?
       Thoughts?
       -LC
       #Post#: 58146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:16 am
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       Red artillery is evil.
       Green artillery is my friend.
       :grin:
       Honestly, as a guy who loves his lights, I don't mind having
       arty in a platoon. In fact, they are more than welcome for
       Friday Night Lights (starts around 9 pm central on Friday
       nights, and I alternate systems; this week is on the One).
       I also am okay with arty players in general as long as they are
       the type who stand their ground at the end of a match, rather
       than drowning themselves. Seriously -- if someone plays a lot of
       arty and suicides often, they can go ahead and leave the clan
       IMHO. The green team got beat, so take your incoming beatdown
       like a man/woman or go play Minecraft. There is no place for
       suiciding douche canoes in this clan.
       That being typed, I think arty players also need to consider the
       makeup of their platoon. If the other four players are in
       slowish heavies, then maybe they should choose a different tank
       ... ? Some consideration has to go the other way, too.
       Just my $.02. Keep the change.
       :cheers:
       #Post#: 58147--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:19 am
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       No one.... I repeat NO ONE should feel that they need to leave
       OFF because they feel uncomfortable.......  Everyone should feel
       free to run the tanks that they a want to and feel comfortable
       running.....  Now, if a platoon is upfront about what they are
       running and/or it is an event, like Thunderpack Thursdays, then
       the member should try and accommodate.
       Now... I know that some platoons can get pretty "rambunctious"
       and platoon mates should take much of this witty (????) banter
       with a grain of salt...
       My personal opinion..... I hate arty, except when they are in my
       platoon... Because I know that I have one covering may ass......
       :mooning:
       #Post#: 58148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: AaaaaaandImDone
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:21 am
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       ^^^^^ this^^^^^
       I play arty and love it.  It's not as easy as people claim
       it to be, and those complaining about it usually do not know how
       to play arty "safe".  It's part of the game, grow up - grow a
       pair and move on.
       I try my hardest to support my platoon mates, when in arty,
       and be helpful not a hindrance. I have seen enough good arty
       players to know they can turn the tide of a battle.  If I notice
       a light trying to take our arty out and I am close enough, I
       will do my best to kill the little bastard!
       #Post#: 58149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:21 am
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       OFF is a ball-busting clan. We bust each others balls (cuz at
       our age, they aren't good for much else) and rag on each other
       much as we can.
       Platoon mates are free to run whatever tanks they like, but we
       may rub it in your face because that's whet we do. However, it
       isn't at all personal.
       There are certain characters in the clan who are a 'joy' to
       platoon with; Ruggers and Squiggy for example. These guys rant
       and rave about every single thing, from arty, to water, playing
       drunk among many other things, but they are as funny as hell and
       OFF would be poorer without them.
       #Post#: 58151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: sly couger
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:30 am
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       surely with average age of over 100 (sorry if you youngsters
       aint caught up ) it can be discussed between us within platoon .
       1 If you know arty is on the map move accordingly .
       2 if you see arty round in air tell your arty direction it came
       from
       3 once he has shot how long is his reload chance to move ?
       I hope that no one has offended anyone else for being in OFF
       arty .pretty poor tankers if this is the case
       PS i use 5 arty  :mooning: :evil:
       #Post#: 58153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: Corbantis
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:36 am
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       Ditto to what Oxi said. The animosity towards arty isn't
       directed to our folks who run it. Its directed towards the
       Reds(because we are their targets), and those Greens who don't
       use arty properly. Don't think its personal. We all bust each
       others chops here. If someone gives you grief over running an
       arty, have them munch on some Nutella.
       #Post#: 58157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:42 am
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       Just as long it isn't supplied by Rugger. :scared:
       --- Quote from: Corbantis link ---
       > ... have them munch on some Nutella.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 58158--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: guest565
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:43 am
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       I pretty much exclusively play heavies, arties favorite targets,
       my wife plays exclusively artillery. That being said, when arty
       is targeting me and trust me I do feel targeted, I do say things
       like F&*K artillery and she knows I mean the red ones, because
       when a good arty players sees the arty fire, they return fire
       when they can, like she does. I consider myself, in any heavy
       tank the arty hunter and I take great pride in killing arty when
       I can, one shot and it's done. I will complain when there are
       three arties on my team...all covering the same side of the map,
       spread out and spread the love or I will get vocal and what a
       crap set of arty players you are. There are people that say
       "arty can make or break a game", I disagree to an extent, we're
       all in this game together and need each other to preform the
       task at hand, killing reds. Oh, and like TKE said, if you kill
       yourself, you are in fact a douche canoe and I think you should
       uninstall WoT and go play mine craft, just my thoughts on the
       subject.
       #Post#: 58160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The Great Artillery Debate
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: June 21, 2016, 10:44 am
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       --- Quote from: sly couger link ---
       >
       > PS i use 5 arty
       --- End Quote ---
       Arty is so easy to play, Sly can play 5 of them!
       Oh, wait -- that's not all at once, is it?
       :hitself:   :tongue:
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