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       #Post#: 56861--------------------------------------------------
       WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: SPF9200
       Date: May 30, 2016, 8:30 pm
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       I would just like to say that the cannon on the WT auf Pz. IV,
       15 cm Pak L/29.5 (first package upgrade) is a complete piece of
       crap. I swear if I hadn't already used half my free XP to
       upgrade to a suitable package on another tank I would give in
       and pay the 10k I need to get to the Kanone package just to get
       away from this unbelievable piece of #@%#$.
       :twocents:
       That is all. Carry on, nothing to see here.
       #Post#: 56863--------------------------------------------------
       WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: Remy1974
       Date: May 30, 2016, 9:55 pm
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       12.8 cm is where it's at anyhow!
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       #Post#: 56874--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: PreachingNut77
       Date: May 31, 2016, 5:05 am
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       Canonne has bang .. But I found it bouncey.
       The first gun I found more accurate/penetrative.
       #Post#: 56883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: May 31, 2016, 7:59 am
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       The 15cm gun only really has a place on the E100.
       #Post#: 56887--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: Duckman31998
       Date: May 31, 2016, 8:47 am
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       General I have to disagree with you, it does alright on the
       Waffle too.
       I always ran the smaller gun on the WT IV but have seen Drakona
       do well with it.
       #Post#: 56890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: May 31, 2016, 8:58 am
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       Have you been spamming HEAT? Because, from what I've read, that
       seems to be the only way to get that 15 cm to work on the baby
       Waffle or the Brosig (no, that's not a typo  :troll:  ).
       It works on the E-OneHundreadful because it can bounce return
       fire after it bounces its shot. Or after it blasts HE in
       someone's face because, ya know, LOL reasons. But on the TDs,
       it's for folks who like big numbers and that's about it.
       :rolf:
       #Post#: 56893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: May 31, 2016, 9:29 am
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       While the HEAT has great pen, it bounces like heck at long
       range, which limits its usefulness on a TD. Since the E100
       brawker, this isn't as much of a problem.
       The 15cm gun is more like horizontal arty (derp howitzer) than a
       true AT gun like the 12.8cm
       #Post#: 56930--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: SPF9200
       Date: May 31, 2016, 2:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: DaGeneralissimo link ---
       >
       > While the HEAT has great pen, it bounces like heck at long
       range, which limits its usefulness on a TD. Since the E100
       brawker, this isn't as much of a problem.
       > The 15cm gun is more like horizontal arty (derp howitzer) than
       a true AT gun like the 12.8cm
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I must agree with this. The trouble with the Waffle is I can't
       get close enough to use it effectively on consistent basis
       without getting shredded. And while smallish in size you still
       need a decent size rock or other obsticle to hide behind and
       hope you can peek out enough fire without being fired upon. Very
       aggravating the number of missed shots at 400-500 meters if the
       opfor isn't showing their entire profile.
       #Post#: 56944--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: Drakona4
       Date: May 31, 2016, 5:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: lll Duckman lll link ---
       >
       > General I have to disagree with you, it does alright on the
       Waffle too.
       >
       > I always ran the smaller gun on the WT IV but have seen
       Drakona do well with it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I somewhat agree with Duckman:  I've used the 15cm gun, and
       gotten ... okay results... using only High Explosive;  the
       results are wildly unpredictable, but you can get at least
       _some_ damage on anything you hit;  usually in the 300-damage
       range.  It beats bouncing, and it sure as heck is cheaper then
       using premium.  :hiding:
       #Post#: 56947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: WT auf Pz. IV 15cm gun
   DIR By: AhBuaya
       Date: May 31, 2016, 5:23 pm
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       If you are using HE mostly, then you're an arty not TD! :rolf:
       --- Quote from: Drakona4 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=lll Duckman lll
       link=topic=3552.msg56887#msg56887 date=1464702453]
       > General I have to disagree with you, it does alright on the
       Waffle too.
       >
       > I always ran the smaller gun on the WT IV but have seen
       Drakona do well with it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I somewhat agree with Duckman:  I've used the 15cm gun, and
       gotten ... okay results... using only High Explosive;  the
       results are wildly unpredictable, but you can get at least
       _some_ damage on anything you hit;  usually in the 300-damage
       range.  It beats bouncing, and it sure as heck is cheaper then
       using premium.  :hiding:
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