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       #Post#: 37113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: Duckman31998
       Date: September 9, 2015, 9:13 am
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       Mine too Alleycat, until yesterday.  After two of the worst days
       I can remember of lone wolfing I had thought:  When playing
       alone this is NOT a team game.  Do what's best for you, let the
       rest of the greens worry about themselves.  13 tanks go right,
       why in the hell should I stay and try to protect the left side?
       All that's going to happen are the reds roll over the top of me
       and make me feel like a failure.  The lemming train rarely does
       the right thing, they come up against a few reds and stop.  So I
       started doing what I think is best, taking care of my tank and
       if the reds get to arty or the base, so be it.  While my winning
       percentage has dropped, my WN8 has increased and I'm no so horse
       from yelling at the TV!
       #Post#: 37117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: warsteiner89
       Date: September 9, 2015, 9:26 am
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       Yup , when lone wolfing it , being a team player is out the
       window if I see lemming trains , base camping chicken-shitz or
       mindless yolo'ers. theres just nothing you can do beside accept
       the loss and try to put up as good of stats as you can.
       I know a lot of platoon mates I play with will try to cover the
       flank when our lemming train leaves the station , but lets face
       it, what good are 3 or 4 tanks going to do against half their
       team or more. your just sitting yourself up to get destroyed .
       will you slow them down ?? maybe...will your numbers suffer
       doing this every match ?? it aint gonna help em !
       this game is all about damage , the more you get , the more xp
       you make , the more silver you make.....screw the greens !!
       #Post#: 37118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: Vodkanaught
       Date: September 9, 2015, 10:21 am
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       To me the sign of a good tanker has very little to do with
       stats(obv absolute garbage not withstanding)as they are easilly
       manipulated and far more to do with an abilty to read and
       anticipate situations on the map and act accordingly.
       Also the willingness to take one for the team ie go hold off
       those 5 tanks coming down the left flank knowing you are going
       to die but may just buy enough time for the rest of your team to
       either get back and defend or push on and capture theirs,people
       worried abouts stats generally won't do this.
       Time and time again I see tanks "defending the base" and when
       the enemy puts up a concerted attack and looks they will prob
       take the base those same tossers up and fuck off leaving the
       enemy a free run in when if they'd stayed held up the enemy
       longer we could have won but stats yeah.
       Learn weak spots,angling,use of cover,when to push,when to
       hold,when to back up team mates,when to fall back to a secondary
       postion and when to sacrifice yourself for the team will make
       you a far better player than needlessly worrying about stats.
       #Post#: 37120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: ALLEYCAT 67
       Date: September 9, 2015, 10:40 am
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       I regards to lonewolfing what you fellas say is probably true
       75% of the time but I’ve come across some pretty good teams of
       random greens.
       Just last night I was playing my 34-88 and after getting tracked
       in the open a team mate pulls up in from of me in a KV85 and
       blocks a couple shots that surely would have finished me off.
       Went on to have a monster game, highest damage, top gun etc...
       Sent the guy a message after thanking him and his exact response
       was “team work ;)”   All that to say there are still some good
       ones out there....
       #Post#: 37122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: warsteiner89
       Date: September 9, 2015, 11:21 am
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       Well , I guess we have to disagree on this one..if the greens
       aren't smart enough to figure out " hey ,we have 14 guys going
       on one side of the map" what makes you think they are going to
       be smart enough to do anything with the "time you buy them" ?
       id rather take the loss and survive with no repairs than get
       slaughtered and stranded by myself with no help in sight. the
       greens are bad , and they are only getting worse with the new
       players since the One launch. Just take a random check like I do
       when its a lopsided window lick contest , most of the time you
       will find out your entire team is around 40-48% w/l. I have done
       this many many times. theres just no helping teams like this !
       Especially once you get some Tier 10s, you quickly learn the
       lesson of not taking one for the team when the team is morons ,
       and your repair bill sends you skyrocketing into the negative
       silver range !!
       #Post#: 37123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: ALLEYCAT 67
       Date: September 9, 2015, 11:29 am
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       But fail teams are our opportunity to excel!!!   LOL
       #Post#: 37127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: Duckman31998
       Date: September 9, 2015, 12:04 pm
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       @ALLEYCAT, I agree as I have been on some good teams while lone
       wolfing, but you'll need to up your percentage to more around
       99.9% that they're potatoes!
       [member=227]Vodkanaught[/member], I use stats to judge if I'm
       getting better or not, and that's about it.  I agree with you
       that a good tanker's stats might not reflect that they are
       unicum or even average, but I've had my fill of POS's over the
       weekend and they are on their own if I'm on their team.  I think
       it's what War is talking about, the new peeps since the Xbone
       came online just don't care and they're causing me not too.
       #Post#: 37128--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: ALLEYCAT 67
       Date: September 9, 2015, 12:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: Duckman31998 link ---
       >
       > @ALLEYCAT, I agree as I have been on some good teams while
       lone wolfing, but you'll need to up your percentage to more
       around 99.9% that they're potatoes!
       --- End Quote ---
       Hahaha, ok I give you that for sure Duck.  75% is way way too
       generous... :cheers:
       #Post#: 37129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: warsteiner89
       Date: September 9, 2015, 12:15 pm
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       its sad that you have to be like that , but at a certain point
       you just get used to the suck-teams and lose all sense of caring
       for about 15 mins.
       When 14 guys all go to the hill on himmelsdork , with arty
       scouting and leading the charge , then you have 2 TDs sitting at
       the base shooting each other for the 1st 90 seconds...whats the
       point......its a loss and nothing you do is gonna stop it.
       I wish I was making this scenario up ,but if I had a dollar
       every time ive seen it play out ....well........you know.
       #Post#: 37132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: STATS WN8/7 EFF
   DIR By: Vodkanaught
       Date: September 9, 2015, 12:52 pm
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       This game has been full of shit players since it came out of
       beta though so not really getting the point to be honest.
       With regards 10's Warsteiner I've had the E3 and E5 since about
       3 weeks after it went live but don't play them as much because
       teir10 was only indicitive of skill level for about the first
       few months of the beta as most are too worried about getting hit
       and their repair bills to do anything.That and I've never felt
       like I've needed the crutch of being constantly top tier.
       The thing I don't understand is what everyone does with their
       money to be honest so repairs are a concern.I've 53 tanks in my
       garage,all fully equipped and 95mil in silver and I don't use
       premuim apart from when we get free days nor do I convert or buy
       silver.Granted thats built up since we came out of beta but
       still it just seems odd to me.
       Still this is all just my view and people can choose to ignore
       it as they see fit as it is after all "your" game.  :superdrunk:
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