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#Post#: 27848--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: AhBuaya Date: May 19, 2015, 12:08 pm
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We spend all our time, silvers and gold to work our way up to
tier 10's only to find that they really to be played a certain
way, otherwise you keep losing silvers and land up rage selling
your tanks. So tank goodness we now have training rooms.
#Post#: 27862--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: HotDog Diggety Date: May 19, 2015, 1:10 pm
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Stay together is a Tier 5 tactic, bring that tactic to tier 10's
and prepare to get your ars whomped on.
#Post#: 27864--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: faethor47 Date: May 19, 2015, 1:16 pm
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It's a good tactic with a 5 man platoon.
To not stay together is to rely on the greens to have your back,
which happens almost as often as never.
Platooning is about working together to achieve burning death
for the reds with people you trust to help if you need it. 5
platoon mates that all go in different directions is just a
party.
#Post#: 27865--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: AhBuaya Date: May 19, 2015, 1:29 pm
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Staying together is sound advice when the lobby has more X tank
than other tiers. In the case when there are five or fewer X
tanks, moving off in a platoon of five in one direction greatly
increases the chances of other flanks collapsing if they run
into the OPFORs X's. Therefore it will be essential that the X
platoon doesn't get bogged down and pushes for the enemy base.
#Post#: 27868--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: oxidative stres Date: May 19, 2015, 1:34 pm
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I think that there is a difference between the lemming train
stay together and the platoon working together and having each
others back. I think that staying together and tactically
supporting each other is where we want to go with this.
As a general example.....Our best game of the night was on
Erlenberg, standard. I cant remember all the tanks, but I had a
T62, and there were 2 IS7s, an E5, and one TD, I think.
We were on the S spawn and pushed the castle I got there first
and got in a nice hull down position and was able to keep both
side of the castle honest, with the higher RoF of the T62. This
is while we had 2 gradually sweep to the left and 2 to the right
of the castle which allowed us to put pressure on all fronts.
We totally controlled that side of the map and then made a big
push to roll. I think we only lost one or 2 tanks of the 15....
#Post#: 27869--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: HotDog Diggety Date: May 19, 2015, 1:37 pm
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[quote]I can be clear across the map and support another tank,
because I have a huge cannon. [/quote]
But that depends on the map, matchup, and make up of the
platoon.
Map -- If you're in a corner camping while everyone else is on
the other side of the map -- or even just out of radio range --
you won't be able to do squat, no matter how large your cannon.
But if you're hanging back and providing overwatch, then okay.
Matchup -- If top tier, then splitting up can be good (as noted
upthread) due to reliance on bottom tier greens to hold a
position or flank. (That got us killed a few times Friday
night.) Bottom tier can go either way, but usually staying
together is a good thing. Not always, to be sure, but often. A
lot depends on ...
Make up -- Wolfpacks of mediums should stay together no matter
the tier, IMHO, as they can absolutely wreck fools. But when
there is a mix of tanks, there needs to be a balance of playing
to a tank's strengths (e.g., if I see one more person sniping in
an IS-3 I'm going to scream) and supporting each other.
Sometimes folks need to be on other ends of a map. But if done
well it can still work.
Of course, the key to all of these is communication. The issue
is that, too often, folks think someone has their back only to
realize they don't because no one said a word. Folks need to
know what everyone else is doing, as they're not psychic. :grin:
The platoon can then make better decisions knowing that, "Okay,
Person A is going to snipe from the hill, so we can move up a
bit thanks to his covering fire" or "They have no shot from
where they are, so we need to backup and wait for the reds to
come to us." Without that communication from everyone in the
platoon, you might as well just play solo and be in game chat.
#Post#: 27870--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: HotDog Diggety Date: May 19, 2015, 1:45 pm
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[quote author=oxidative stres link=topic=1930.msg27868#msg27868
date=1432060444]
I think that there is a difference between the lemming train
stay together and the platoon working together and having each
others back. I think that staying together and tactically
supporting each other is where we want to go with this.
As a general example.....Our best game of the night was on
Erlenberg, standard. I cant remember all the tanks, but I had a
T62, and there were 2 IS7s, an E5, and one TD, I think.
We were on the S spawn and pushed the castle I got there first
and got in a nice hull down position and was able to keep both
side of the castle honest, with the higher RoF of the T62. This
is while we had 2 gradually sweep to the left and 2 to the right
of the castle which allowed us to put pressure on all fronts.
We totally controlled that side of the map and then made a big
push to roll. I think we only lost one or 2 tanks of the 15....
[/quote]
This exactly: tactically supporting each other is where we want
to go with this.
I cannot tell you how many times I have had teams say "wheres
Hotdog, I thought we were sticking together" while the other 4
tanks roll off with the barrels up the other tanks rear. I
don't want be the odd man out again as the team thinks staying
together means you need to be 10 meters away from the tanks your
with. Like I said in tier 5 you guys will rock!
#Post#: 27872--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: HotDog Diggety Date: May 19, 2015, 1:57 pm
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We need to learn position fighting and reacting to scenario's.
We need to learn about falling back, collapsing, pulling flank
and luring them in. Support positions and sectors of fire.
Reading this sounds as if I'm ranting :shit: lol :poke:
#Post#: 27874--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: oxidative stres Date: May 19, 2015, 2:00 pm
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[quote author=HotDog Diggety link=topic=1930.msg27870#msg27870
date=1432061116]
[quote author=oxidative stres link=topic=1930.msg27868#msg27868
date=1432060444]
I think that there is a difference between the lemming train
stay together and the platoon working together and having each
others back. I think that staying together and tactically
supporting each other is where we want to go with this.
As a general example.....Our best game of the night was on
Erlenberg, standard. I cant remember all the tanks, but I had a
T62, and there were 2 IS7s, an E5, and one TD, I think.
We were on the S spawn and pushed the castle I got there first
and got in a nice hull down position and was able to keep both
side of the castle honest, with the higher RoF of the T62. This
is while we had 2 gradually sweep to the left and 2 to the right
of the castle which allowed us to put pressure on all fronts.
We totally controlled that side of the map and then made a big
push to roll. I think we only lost one or 2 tanks of the 15....
[/quote]
This exactly: tactically supporting each other is where we want
to go with this.
I cannot tell you how many times I have had teams say "wheres
Hotdog, I thought we were sticking together" while the other 4
tanks roll off with the barrels up the other tanks rear. I
don't want be the odd man out again as the team thinks staying
together means you need to be 10 meters away from the tanks your
with. Like I said in tier 5 you guys will rock!
[/quote]
I think we are all on the same page, with this but didn't
elaborate what we had in mind. I think that slowly but surely
we are starting to adjust to the differences in the Tier X game,
vs the lower tiers..... I think that what we are learning here
will translate to whatever form of clan wars they put out....
Tier Xs, the point system, whatever it may be.
#Post#: 27875--------------------------------------------------
Re: X Times X
By: HotDog Diggety Date: May 19, 2015, 2:12 pm
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Yes, I do believe we will be a force to reckoned with :charge:
:salute:
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