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       #Post#: 13320--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: November 7, 2014, 9:03 am
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       Nope..... the rest are Autoloaders with turrets.  Most have the
       rear mounted turret, but are turreted none the less.
       #Post#: 13327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: guest45
       Date: November 7, 2014, 9:33 am
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       Yeah Fif they're rear placed, fully rotating, 6 shot autos with
       only a 36 shell load out. I know how that ELC can be when you go
       running through a group of reds and you can't lock on and shoot
       as you would in a chaffee or 71. I personally perfered the urban
       setting as to be able run right at them, lock on(if not
       already), fire and turn behind some buildings and come running
       in from a different angle since I'll be locked on already(as
       long as it stayed lit up). Other wise play a back up TD role
       after your spotting run with that gun on it. So far I'm up to
       that final grind in the 13 75.
       #Post#: 13332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: November 7, 2014, 9:38 am
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       --- Quote from: saintkaos link ---
       >
       > Yeah Fif they're rear placed, fully rotating, 6 shot autos
       with only a 36 shell load out. I know how that ELC can be when
       you go running through a group of reds and you can't lock on and
       shoot as you would in a chaffee or 71. I personally perfered the
       urban setting as to be able run right at them, lock on(if not
       already), fire and turn behind some buildings and come running
       in from a different angle since I'll be locked on already(as
       long as it stayed lit up). Other wise play a back up TD role
       after your spotting run with that gun on it. So far I'm up to
       that final grind in the 13 75.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Definatley what Saint said :thumb:
       #Post#: 13340--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: guest45
       Date: November 7, 2014, 10:19 am
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       Plus the "Thank You Tankers" Op is the perfect thing to use to
       help get those French crews built up quicker during the next 5
       days.
       #Post#: 13346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: Nahwasntme
       Date: November 7, 2014, 11:35 am
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       I am still trying to figure out how anyone in WG thought fitting
       a tier 3 gun to a tier 6 TD was a good idea. Sorta defeats the
       whole point of being a TD. I just hope the higher tiers are
       worth the tears
       #Post#: 13349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: TKE919
       Date: November 7, 2014, 12:13 pm
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       French tanks certainly are NOT for everyone.
       Bottom tiers are OK armored but slow, and the guns range from
       the OP (the Pak tier III premium tank comes to mind) to the
       wholly underwhelming (e.g., that tier IV gun on the tier VI TD
       Nahwasntme mentioned).
       Upper tiers focus on speed, with less armor. Those changes are
       balanced out by having auto-loaders that can unleash hell very
       quickly.
       From what I can tell, their lights are far and away their
       biggest strength, their mediums are meh until you get the
       BatChat (which I played on test and is ABSURDLY fun) and their
       heavies are a lot more like mediums. Their TDs seem to bounce
       between good and bad one tier to the next -- there's not a lot
       of consistency in play style until you get into tier VII and up.
       NOTE: This is from my experiences on the test server, so your
       mileage may vary. :grin:  Warsteiner1 is really the French tank
       expert around these parts.
       #Post#: 13351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: Nahwasntme
       Date: November 7, 2014, 12:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: TKE919 link ---
       >
       > French tanks certainly are NOT for everyone.
       >
       > Bottom tiers are OK armored but slow, and the guns range from
       the OP (the Pak tier III premium tank comes to mind) to the
       wholly underwhelming (e.g., that tier IV gun on the tier VI TD
       Nahwasntme mentioned).
       >
       > Upper tiers focus on speed, with less armor. Those changes are
       balanced out by having auto-loaders that can unleash hell very
       quickly.
       >
       > From what I can tell, their lights are far and away their
       biggest strength, their mediums are meh until you get the
       BatChat (which I played on test and is ABSURDLY fun) and their
       heavies are a lot more like mediums. Their TDs seem to bounce
       between good and bad one tier to the next -- there's not a lot
       of consistency in play style until you get into tier VII and up.
       >
       > NOTE: This is from my experiences on the test server, so your
       mileage may vary. :grin:  Warsteiner1 is really the French tank
       expert around these parts.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It is actually a tier 3 gun not a tier 4. As you say though the
       FCM 36 PAK 40 is a great tank if your top tier. Slow with no
       traverse but on an open map where you can stay hidden it is
       lethal. Very first game in it I was top tier on Prok and got 9
       kills. Got my first hacker mail too, Lol. However when I see
       Ensk I cry.
       #Post#: 13353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: FifStreet315
       Date: November 7, 2014, 1:23 pm
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       Thanks guys.
       I spent gold to free XP my way past the AMX 40.  Would be a
       shame to have to do it again for the ELC, only to find out that
       I'm not a good fit for the rest of the tanks in the line.
       This line and the US auto-loader line seem very odd to me.  The
       tanks don't seem to "flow".  what I mean, is that for most other
       lines, the things you learn while grinding the different tanks
       build on each other.  These lines don't seem to do that for me.
       #Post#: 13354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: oxidative stres
       Date: November 7, 2014, 1:29 pm
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       I think that once you get past the ELC, then there is a little
       more logical progression. Even the mediums in this line play
       light lights anyways.
       #Post#: 13356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: French Tanks stink
   DIR By: guest45
       Date: November 7, 2014, 2:20 pm
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       Yeah the autos can be a bit weird. I kinda like going in blitz
       attacks with em, unload like hell and disappear to go else where
       if possible
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