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#Post#: 12705--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: FifStreet315
Date: October 24, 2014, 8:41 am
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--- Quote from: ReverendBeast link ---
>
> Thanks for the link Steam...
> All I can say is: The OP has little to no understanding of
data sets....
>
> I know the OP is using Achievements as a subset of the player
population, for some unknown reason :fullofshit:
> Something as simple as looking at the player population on the
live servers would just crush the premise of the post...
> Sorry, I get a bit annoyed at how the ignorance is just
unlimited on the WOT forums...
> WOT forums and accepted analysis, are like the teeth of a 90+
year olds.... Few and far between!
> :fuckyou:
>
--- End Quote ---
I get annoyed myself when people in the main forums proudly
display their ignorance in an effort to prove a point. I'm not
an expert on statistical analysis but I know enough to point out
when something is obviously being misinterpreted.
My favorite was this week, somebody went on a long rant about
how MM and the game was broken because they were bottom tier 9
games in a row... 9 games! :palm:
Another forumer was asking for WG to release all the data about
maps and tanks, so we can see which tanks and maps are not
balanced. WG knows better.
As long as WG isn't hiring posters from the forums to analyze
data, I think we should be fine.
#Post#: 12709--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: ta2dflip
Date: October 24, 2014, 9:06 am
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--- Quote from: FifStreet315 link ---
>
> [quote author=ReverendBeast link=topic=1003.msg12703#msg12703
date=1414157026]
> Thanks for the link Steam...
> All I can say is: The OP has little to no understanding of
data sets....
> I know the OP is using Achievements as a subset of the player
population, for some unknown reasonwotoff
> Something as simple as looking at the player population on the
live servers would just crush the premise of the post...
> Sorry, I get a bit annoyed at how the ignorance is just
unlimited on the WOT forums...
> WOT forums and accepted analysis, are like the teeth of a 90+
year olds.... Few and far between!
> wotoff
--- End Quote ---
I get annoyed myself when people in the main forums proudly
display their ignorance in an effort to prove a point. I'm not
an expert on statistical analysis but I know enough to point out
when something is obviously being misinterpreted.
My favorite was this week, somebody went on a long rant about
how MM and the game was broken because they were bottom tier 9
games in a row... 9 games! wotoff
Another forumer was asking for WG to release all the data about
maps and tanks, so we can see which tanks and maps are not
balanced. WG knows better.
As long as WG isn't hiring posters from the forums to analyze
data, I think we should be fine.
[/quote]
9 games, that's it??? Try a whole day then I'll hear your
complaints. I spend more time as bottom tier than I do anywhere
else, not even close to middle. The part that pisses me off are
the people that think the game should cater to them...the fuck
is that? Tanks get nerfed, because people piss and moan like
children to get their way... go play another game and let the
people that like a challenge play this game. Sorry skippy, there
isn't a beginner level for you to learn on, so either get smart
enough to not get seen and quit trying to go down the middle
with everyone else and leaving both flanks undefended or just
......(refrains from further venting about dumb people).........
. . . . . .
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#Post#: 12724--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: Daswagdaddy101
Date: October 24, 2014, 11:36 am
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They need to do a troll stat and see how many people are driven
away from WOT. I know I'm getting close myself. Hardly play
anymore. Just a couple battles a night before a switch to
something else, if I play WOT at all.
#Post#: 12736--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: RonBirdJr
Date: October 24, 2014, 5:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Daswagdaddy101 link ---
>
> They need to do a troll stat and see how many people are
driven away from WOT. I know I'm getting close myself. Hardly
play anymore. Just a couple battles a night before a switch to
something else, if I play WOT at all.
>
--- End Quote ---
What do you mean "troll stat"?
#Post#: 12738--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: RonBirdJr
Date: October 24, 2014, 5:12 pm
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--- Quote from: ta2dflip link ---
>
> [quote author=FifStreet315 link=topic=1003.msg12705#msg12705
date=1414158092]
> [quote author=ReverendBeast link=topic=1003.msg12703#msg12703
date=1414157026]
> Thanks for the link Steam...
> All I can say is: The OP has little to no understanding of
data sets....
> I know the OP is using Achievements as a subset of the player
population, for some unknown reasonwotoff
> Something as simple as looking at the player population on the
live servers would just crush the premise of the post...
> Sorry, I get a bit annoyed at how the ignorance is just
unlimited on the WOT forums...
> WOT forums and accepted analysis, are like the teeth of a 90+
year olds.... Few and far between!
> wotoff
--- End Quote ---
I get annoyed myself when people in the main forums proudly
display their ignorance in an effort to prove a point. I'm not
an expert on statistical analysis but I know enough to point out
when something is obviously being misinterpreted.
My favorite was this week, somebody went on a long rant about
how MM and the game was broken because they were bottom tier 9
games in a row... 9 games! wotoff
Another forumer was asking for WG to release all the data about
maps and tanks, so we can see which tanks and maps are not
balanced. WG knows better.
As long as WG isn't hiring posters from the forums to analyze
data, I think we should be fine.
[/quote]
9 games, that's it??? Try a whole day then I'll hear your
complaints. I spend more time as bottom tier than I do anywhere
else, not even close to middle. The part that pisses me off are
the people that think the game should cater to them...the fuck
is that? Tanks get nerfed, because people piss and moan like
children to get their way... go play another game and let the
people that like a challenge play this game. Sorry skippy, there
isn't a beginner level for you to learn on, so either get smart
enough to not get seen and quit trying to go down the middle
with everyone else and leaving both flanks undefended or just
......(refrains from further venting about dumb people).........
. . . . . .
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[/quote]
As the OP said he was just posting the XBLA data and not making
any assumptions and that he does love and believe in the long
term health of the game. He also says that he just wanted to
present data that is available. I see myself see nothing wrong
with someone posting facts of available data. For me the live
server forums and games forums as a whole suffer from a lack of
facts not to many. Any way you are welcome for the link I read a
post above in-which another asked for it.
BTW, I do feel the pain as well. When the people in the live
forums tell you only part of the story when it comes to capping,
Wn8 and I few other things they write about on the live forums.
If you try to confuse them with facts they go all "batty" on
you. Some time I pull the facts out just to watch them
twist....lol.
#Post#: 12739--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: warsteiner89
Date: October 24, 2014, 5:17 pm
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personally , im not worried about this game , never have been.
this game makes so much money and has such a monster player base
on PC that any money they make on this version is just blow $$
for them. This game will eventually get caught up to the latest
PC version and without a doubt in my mind , im more than certain
it will be ported to the Xbox One , along with their other 2
projects.
It may be slow at times , but it will pick up. We are a very
small corner in a very large room....Wargaming may be many
things , but a company that stops and gives up... it aint !
#Post#: 12748--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: trickystraw678
Date: October 24, 2014, 11:52 pm
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I hope the game will last....The world series of poker is
closing in march. I joined X-BOX LIVE in July and already a FTP
is closing up shop. I am trying to make every tank in WOT elite
and that takes time, patience( trolls pushing you - kill
stealers" I have had heavies watch me put 3 or 4 rounds into a
tank then take my kill while I reload", and have put money into
the game. I am the crazy one who now has 62 tanks in my garage
i.e hate to sell a tank. I have all the tier 5's but 2 premium
tanks. I now have 14 tier 6's and just got my first tier 7 the
T-29. I find MM to be a little flawed but deal with it. I
would like to see a +-1 tier in MM in the future. I enjoy the
game. My win % used to stress me out. Now I dont look. My
kill to death ratio is nearly 1 to 1. Dont even ask about
damage ratio. All these forum posters on the main WOT Forums
just bash anyone that dares ask a straight forward honest
question. I asked about my win ratio and was flat out told I
was A BAD player and A LIABILITY to my team. All without anyone
posting a positive way of increasing it. I hope this game
thrives even tho people are trying to drive people away. Idon't
know why, perhaps to make themselves fell better(supperior)? I
have friends that play WOT because I play WOT. I have helped
players grind new lower tiers and tech trees they had previosly
ignored. I still do this. Just helped a new friend unlock
thier first tier 5 a Churchill 1. I believe the game has
promise on so many fronts. I have 45 of the 52 achievements
just for score. I still want that tankaholich achievment.
SORRY FOR THE LONG POST. KILL THE RED TEAM.
#Post#: 12762--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: warsteiner89
Date: October 26, 2014, 2:39 am
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FYI... as i said much earlier , like several months ago.... W8
is now being used as nothing more than an e-penis benchmark.
All that is really required is running a TD 40-70% of the time
and BAM... your in the top 100.
I know my view on the whole rating system is not well received
but lets be honest here , its flawed and easily manipulated by
running mass amounts of TDs and platoons with the like.
You want to impress someone ??? Dare to run mediums or lights
over 25%.... then well talk !!!
#Post#: 12763--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Long Term Health of WoT -- Not a rant, some data...
DIR By: RonBirdJr
Date: October 26, 2014, 3:09 am
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--- Quote from: warsteiner1 link ---
>
> FYI... as i said much earlier , like several months ago.... W8
is now being used as nothing more than an e-penis benchmark.
All that is really required is running a TD 40-70% of the time
and BAM... your in the top 100.
> I know my view on the whole rating system is not well received
but lets be honest here , its flawed and easily manipulated by
running mass amounts of TDs and platoons with the like.
> You want to impress someone ??? Dare to run mediums or lights
over 25%.... then well talk !!!
>
--- End Quote ---
I agree about Wn8. Below is my take on it after a whole lot of
reading and searching.
HTML http://forum.worldoftanksxbox360edition.com/index.php?/topic/58465-wn8/page__st__180__pid__983006#entry983006
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