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       #Post#: 511--------------------------------------------------
       Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: Erundur Date: April 8, 2012, 11:52 am
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       I have begun to notice people's things have been griefed. This
       is beginning to concern me. First, The golems in Humphrey went
       missing or were slain.
       Then Jry's Golem was taken out.
       My fortress was then broken into and my redstone wiring was
       investigated, leaving a hole in my floor and my wall(the
       entry/exit point).
       I log on today and find my dogs dead(all 10-12 of them), gates
       open, a nether rack fireplace extinguished, text removed from
       one of my signs, and my 30-40 iron ingots stolen. I immediately
       checked my fortress and found MY iron golem dead, though nothing
       was taken. After that, I checked other people's places and found
       that Jry's golem had been killed again.
       My point is that this CANNOT go on any longer. We have many
       options:
       1)Wolf installs a plugin for player property protection
       2)We institute a militaristic anti-griefing force(pretty much a
       police)
       3)We do nothing(NOT a fan of this)
       4)We immediately find the perpetrators and ban them, and keep
       doing that, like we have been(although the system is somewhat
       slow)
       I personally approve of player owned land areas, but it could
       interfere with further buildings for the public.
       THIS MUST END. If justice cannot be delivered, some may be
       dissuaded from joining the server, others may join to
       participate in this vandalism and theft. We cannot allow this to
       occur any more.
       #Post#: 512--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: twsb156ANOK Date: April 8, 2012, 12:15 pm
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       Thank you for bringing this to our attention, We will
       immediately find and ban this person.
       We do have people on this server with sketchy backgrounds.
       We're sorry about the misfortune that has happened.
       [glow=red,2,300]1)Wolf installs a plugin for player property
       protection:  We did talk about it although it being as Vanilla
       as we would like it is hard to make the decision on the
       protection.
       2)We institute a militaristic anti-griefing force(pretty much a
       police) We have our ways.
       3)We do nothing(NOT a fan of this) We're doing everything we
       can.
       4)We immediately find the perpetrators and ban them, and keep
       doing that, like we have been(although the system is somewhat
       slow) We will ban them. [/glow]
       #Post#: 513--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: Erundur Date: April 8, 2012, 3:42 pm
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       Thank y'all for trying hard to bring this to an end. It's just
       that I'm noticing patterns, sometimes i get victimized,
       sometimes i don't. I just want to cruel cycle to end.
       Twsb, nice reply.
       #Post#: 514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: 65Wolf Date: April 8, 2012, 5:34 pm
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       Well, for the most part, we have a pretty good player base.
       Yes, there are a few that slip through, but we do address them
       as soon as the incidents arise.  Most of the time, I have been
       able to catch the griefers and a lot of the thieves within a
       couple hours, if not minutes, of their doing the crime! We do
       have safeguards in place, hence the "semi-vanilla" aspect of the
       server.
       I will take the blame for the griefing you found. I found
       Thunder_Piggy griefing after his first hour of being on the
       server, Saturday. I thought I had rolled it all back, but
       apparently shorted the rollback by 15 minutes. Otherwise, it
       would have been done Saturday afternoon, and you would have
       never known it... other than finding your animals missing.
       Unfortunately, the animals don't rollback.  :(
       As far as the iron, that was Tylersyme, as you know. He has been
       doing some stealing for a bit, but we have been working to
       rectify that. He is currently jailed in Humphry jail until I get
       a chance to talk to him. And if that behavior cannot be changed,
       he will be gone too!
       Most of us want to keep this a vanilla server, meaning we don't
       want plugins to take away from the original Minecraft feel. That
       is what the Main server is for!  For the most part, most of the
       players are trustworthy on here.  Athough, as we grow, that
       could change.  Thats where you guys all come in. We need to know
       from you guys when things happen to.  We do not catch everything
       right away (as with Tyler and your iron), even though we try!
       Keep in mind, vanilla servers are always, and will always be a
       target for the griefers out there!  That is why we try to keep
       all the protections in place, and review logs quite frequently!
       The biggest help is from you guys!  Be sure to keep us abreast
       of any suspicious behavior you might see, or even suspect,
       especially from newer members we don't know that well yet!  We
       need you to help us 'police' the servers and keep the griefing
       and all that in check!!  I know I'm not always around, but you
       guys can let any of the other admins or mods know about it also!
       And even if you tell one of us in person, it still don't hurt
       to post it in the Reports section of the forums!!  That way
       everyone can be made aware of any situations out there and we
       can all work together to protect ourselves, and 'our' server!!
       Personally, I would love to see the chests and all stay as they
       are, but if it gets to a point where we can't trust players to
       not steal from others, then we might have to look at something
       to protect chests. For right now, the only players with absolute
       protection of their things are VIP's, who get assigned a special
       bedrock enclosed vault to place valuable items in, along with a
       warp to get them there and return home again! No one else has
       access to these private vaults, except for the person assigned
       to them! Since the are completely encased in bedrock, noone else
       will be able to access them or steal from them!
       Thanks for bringing it to my attention, and I'm glad we were
       able to get it all fixed for you!   8)
       - 65Wolf
       #Post#: 521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: anasaz Date: April 9, 2012, 4:18 pm
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       Aww, man.  Bob's died on me again.  And my favorite music disc
       got erased.  :'(
       #Post#: 523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: 65Wolf Date: April 9, 2012, 5:24 pm
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       How does a music disk get erased???
       #Post#: 527--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: anasaz Date: April 10, 2012, 12:32 am
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       I dunno, I guess it must have been something to do with the
       rollback.  But one of my disks was gone and there were a bunch
       of copies of the other ones.  Threw the copies in the lava.
       #Post#: 532--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: Prd30 Date: April 11, 2012, 6:48 pm
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       I lost a music disc too, and got a copy instead
       I am sympathetic to all players who have been gridded, and will
       do alll I can to help make the server safe and fun, while
       keeping it as Vanilla as can be.
       I hadn't used my bedrock vault until recently, and it is a nice
       feature, but part of the enjoyment I get playing on this server
       is avoiding griefers as best as I can either by hiding
       valuables, patrolling for griefers, etc.
       I think we should develop an RPG style alignment system whereby
       griefers are labelled according to the degree of their action
       and how often they commit these actions, the worse of whom are
       of course banned, and the milder offenders perhaps jailed or
       tagged with a RED PvP label (so I can legally hunt them down)
       #Post#: 893--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Anti-griefing measures on Semi-Vanilla????
       By: Travis1236 Date: June 2, 2012, 10:52 pm
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       the people who killed tghe golems it was steavehead101 he told
       me
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