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       #Post#: 9--------------------------------------------------
       Alliance Challenges
       By: Myrii Date: December 17, 2013, 1:19 pm
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       One of the "challenges" surrounding the ACs is trying to work it
       so that everyone has an opportunity to get the top prizes,
       mostly due to alliance members being in various time zones.
       Does anyone have suggestions for making challenges more
       equitable/accessible?
       #Post#: 16--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Alliance Challenges
       By: Yarzar Date: December 17, 2013, 6:28 pm
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       I think it might be best if we use John Stuart Mill's idea about
       morality here also know as utilitarianism. The moral and that
       way also the right choice would be the one that brings the
       utility, usually defined as happiness and that it should solely
       be based on quantity. If we look at it like that the best time
       would be when everyone from the U.S. can participate and just
       leave us out, so it would probably be around 4 pm est time.
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       Re: Alliance Challenges
       By: Jon The Devout Date: December 17, 2013, 6:39 pm
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       I think we should alternate challenges. So lets say something
       like this for example
       Week 1
       Week 2
       Braving The Green Waters - USA                Braving The Green
       Waters - UK
       Against The Wildlling Horde - USA              Against The
       Wildlling Horde- UK
       Tourney In The Marches - UK                     Tourney In The
       Marches- USA
       Fire At the Arsenal - UK                              Fire At
       the Arsenal - USA
       This is just an example, but would need a European member to me
       made officer with ability to start challenges.
       As for as being a USA member goes, I'd prefer a 6 PM start time,
       but those details could be worked out later
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       Re: Alliance Challenges
       By: Styr Date: December 17, 2013, 6:51 pm
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       This is a tough one, given how long it takes to do these and to
       accumulate enough damage to award a prize.  That's what I
       dislike about the AC's and how they're done.  They take a good
       commitment time wise to attain a top 2/3 spot for the good
       stuffs.
       Maybe drum up a list of what AC offers what, then see who wants
       what and just try to accommodate as best as possible.  Not
       exactly the best way of doing it but we just have to try and
       work within the system as it is.  Ideally, I'd love to see it
       where AC challenge rewards go into an alliance pool that's
       available to all members and handed out by leader/officers, not
       just those who were able to click the most.
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       Re: Alliance Challenges
       By: JonDeryck Date: December 17, 2013, 9:14 pm
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       How about this. Freya declares AC prize to be attained by US or
       European players. The rotation suggestion sounds equitable to
       me. And some form of kicking them off should be worked out. Well
       let whatever time zone an AC is to be geared to be fought until
       part 2 is finished, then part 3 is open season. Post AC
       details/limitations on here and in the rookery on MoTD.
       I have been told we strive to be honorable in our actions. Trust
       is a key component to honor. Therefore the limitations should be
       adhered to and crafting should not suffer.
       This is of course, imho.
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