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#Post#: 506--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: Gemclops Date: July 30, 2017, 4:02 pm
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This is my opinion: To me, there is a difference in Loving
someone and not supporting someone.
Loving has versions. 1 love as in romantic or lust or various
other forms. 2 love as in caring and supporting someone's
choices. Saying you love somebody but don't support their
choices defeats the purpose of saying you love them.
#Post#: 508--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: AetherAer Date: July 30, 2017, 4:05 pm
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*Aether feels awkward as a very religious LGBTQ+ christian* My
branch of christianity (and most churches in my state) support
LGBTQ+ and have LGBTQ+ members (our beloved music minister for
example was gay). I personally don't see it as a sin however, I
understand why you might disagree with it.
#Post#: 512--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: Angel_614 Date: July 30, 2017, 4:14 pm
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@Blue, yep, everyone has sinned. Did I say they were less of a
Christian because of it? Nope (haha, sometimes I feel like less
of a Christian or a terrible Christian on most days). Honestly,
in the end though, that LGBT+ stuff or that person, whatever
they are going through, it is between them and God in the end.
@Gemclops, you could say that Jesus was a loving and caring
person, right? He reached out to the crippled, the hurt, the
sinners, everyone. Did He seem to condone or support the sinful
acts that were being performed? (Not just LGBT+ mind you, that
isn't a "bigger sin" or anything). But yet He still loved them.
He didn't support the sin, but loved the sinner. If my friend
told me that they had stolen something and were very anxious,
should I just say that I support that they stole it? I would
calmly tell them that they should return what they stole, BUT, I
would also tell them that I am there for them, and that I am
still their friend even if they did do that.
Again, I do not hate LGBT+ people or supporters. I love them a
lot. He has called us to speak the Truth in Love. Now please
forgive me, as sometimes (okay most of the time) I have
DEFINITELY failed at that. But that doesn't mean that I won't
succeed or that He won't help me.
Anyway, in the end, you have your opinions and I have mine. I'm
not forcing you to change them at all :)
#Post#: 515--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: blue Date: July 30, 2017, 4:17 pm
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... You said you cannot be a Christian and practice
homosexuality.
#Post#: 524--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: Angel_614 Date: July 30, 2017, 4:25 pm
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Right, but you can be a Christian and struggle with same-gender
attraction or that other stuff. Not practicing it, but
struggling with it.
And in the end, He sees the workings of the heart, so He knows
whether or not they really are a Christian or not. I won't try
to make that call.
#Post#: 535--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: blue Date: July 30, 2017, 4:40 pm
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You said homosexuality is a sin like any other. People can do
other sins and still be real Christians so what is different
about this?
#Post#: 539--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: Gemclops Date: July 30, 2017, 4:53 pm
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Please don't use your fake god to reason with me. I only believe
in the Greek Gods and Goddesses.
#Post#: 548--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: Angel_614 Date: July 30, 2017, 5:00 pm
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@Gemclops, alright, my apologies I did not know that, but
everything I know and care for is based on my relationship with
Him.
@Blue, when someone becomes a Christian, it changes them (I'm
just going by my experience mind you). When it happens, that
person will either not want to go back to their old ways at all,
or struggle with the sin, or both. Sure they will still fail and
sin, but if there is a definite change, that is a good way to
tell and such.
#Post#: 589--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: icarus757 Date: July 30, 2017, 6:24 pm
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Listen, Angel, I've never seen eye to eye with you, and many
times I have gone out of my way to avoid you and your posts
because of the things you say. Maybe you do the same to me. I
don't know. I can't see from other peoples' points of view, but
from mine, almost everything you say is an attack to a community
I belong to. I know you don't think it is, but it is.
I don't know where I'm going with this post but here we go.
I did not choose to be a lesbian. I've never been attracted to a
guy, except for the times I forced myself to fit in. I did not
choose to fall in love with my best friend and I did not choose
to always fear that my family would shut me out if they found
out. I didn't choose to fear you and people like you because I
know what you think. I didn't choose to grow up and wonder what
was wrong with me and why no-one else was like me.
I didn't choose to be scared, but imagine going online and
finding out there's other people like you. I didn't know why I
found it so strange that one of my friends who was a guy had a
crush on me. I didn't get why I adored my friends that were
girls so much. I didn't get why I related to Romeo so much, and
when I brought up the play to my friends they all compared
themselves to Juliet. Imagine feeling something like that and
then suddenly, oh. You're not alone. You're not a mistake,
you're not broken, there's others just like you - you're not
alone.
I dealt with internalized homophobia before and long after that,
courtesy of my brother, some forumers, and almost every show I
watched and book I read. Recently, maybe last year I guess, I've
been able to push my internalized homophobia away. But it's
things like this, and the protesters in the street, and the
words of my brother and his friends that bring it back. They
make me think things like i am wrong i am wrong i am wrong and
it's platonic its platonic its platonic and you dont like girls
you dont like girls you dont like girls.
I guess I'm just trying to get you to understand why people
react the way they do to your posts...? Ugh, alright, after that
weird vent-empathy thing... Everyone I know that "doesn't
support LGBTQ+" (which is, by the way, a form of homophobia) or
are just plain homophobes is a Christian. The religion itself
has been ingrained in my mind as a direct threat to my
happiness, and when you go preaching about God and Jesus or
whatever and how they make you happy, I wonder how in the world
does something that inspires fear and sadness in me make someone
happy?
Which I suppose is what you think when you see me and anyone
else who is LGBTQ+. But that's why I react so strongly to these
threads.
I honestly don't know what else I was going to say. I don't have
a way with words. I wish this "controversy" board didn't exist -
its a bad idea and anything I say will make people hate me more
than they already do. Don't always see things from your point of
view. You don't have the final word. I don't either. Nobody
does.
#Post#: 599--------------------------------------------------
Re: Weeelll....(This is more aimed at my fellow Christians? You
can ignore this if you want)~Angel
By: TaleKanaya12 Date: July 30, 2017, 7:15 pm
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I had a feeling this would happen.
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