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Re: I have to speak out
By: Angel_614 Date: August 5, 2017, 11:31 am
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All I am going to say is that I recommend you guys read the
article I posted on the second page that clearly lays out the
facts of why I believe what I believe.
And they are SCIENTIFIC AND EMTOIONAL FACTS.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: TaleKanaya12 Date: August 5, 2017, 1:57 pm
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I read it Angel. And Aronia's example says all. She NEEDED
abortion. But, she birthed the baby, died, and the baby died
too. Abortion is the only option in those cases. Say, a mother
aborted because she wanted a girl and not a boy. Now THAT is
idiotic and selfish. But, if an abortion saves a life, go ahead.
Save your own darn life, cause one is more than none.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Angel_614 Date: August 5, 2017, 2:03 pm
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But if you look at the statistics, the percent of
life-threatening birth happenings is VERY low, and people have
actually died from abortions, (no, not the outlawed ones, the
ones that are considered legal)
Not to mention the countless women that have been traumatized by
their abortion and wish they could take it back.
Aronia's story is very sad and it definitely is wrong that both
of them died.
But does that mean that countless babies should be sacrifieced
even if there isn't any danger?
Aronia has a story, and Aronia, my heart goes out to you. I can
understand.
However, I also have a story, of my mom's friend going through
so much pain and hurt because she killed her own baby.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Angel_614 Date: August 5, 2017, 2:18 pm
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And I think the article mentions something about abortions in
life-threatening conditions?
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Re: I have to speak out
By: TaleKanaya12 Date: August 5, 2017, 3:38 pm
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In that case, let the women who need to abort, abort. Those that
dont need to (the ones who were careless and managed to concieve
a human) shouldnt abort. If they have a good reason to abort,
let them abort. If they dont, the baby can be adopted.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Luna255 Date: August 5, 2017, 4:31 pm
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What about in circumstances that just having the pregnancy would
not threaten the life of the mother, but severely derail or ruin
it?
Like, my mom had hyperemesis gravidarum, an extreme form of
morning sickness that I'm likely to have too. She had to go to
the hospital because she couldn't eat anything without
immediately throwing up.
If someone in college or something like that had that condition,
they might fail out or have to drop out, and then all their
plans for the future are gone. They might not be able to get a
job.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: AetherAer Date: August 5, 2017, 9:13 pm
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I read your article Angel and it doesn't change what I think.
I'm still sticking to all the previous points I made, about why
people sometimes do need to get an abortion. The decision to
abort pregnancy is almost always heartbreaking. People don't
just get abortions for silly reasons, they put so much thought
into the decision. They reach the conclusion that it's the right
thing to do, for them and for their unborn child. While
abortions aren't always for life threatening reasons, they still
happen for many important reasons.
Woman shouldn't have to bring a child into the world before they
are old enough, or before they are ready. If they are unable to
care for a child, due to age, school, work, or other reasons
then they shouldn't have to. It's not good for the mom, and it
wouldn't be good for the baby. Lives would be negatively
impacted forever. If someone is raped, she also shouldn't be
forced to go through the pregnancy. She would've very likely
been traumatized by her experience, and both unable and
unwilling to take care of a child (especially a child of the
person who raped her). If someone's in a bad and abusive
relationship, bringing a child into the world isn't a good
option either. Once again it's bad for both the mother and the
child.
Later on most woman who aborted a pregnancy go on to have kids
later, when they are able to care for them, when they are older
and are living better lives. It's cruel to make someone become a
mother before they are capable or ready for it. If they can't
afford and aren't ready to take care of child, then what kind of
life would their baby be living? And what kind of life would the
mother live, if they had to drop out of college?
The reason of abortion may differ in every case, but sometimes
it is needed. Sometimes there isn't another good option. Maybe
in a perfect world, we wouldn't need abortions but we aren't in
a perfect world. Abortion needs to be a choice for woman to
make, something for them to decide for themselves. Every case is
different, and they have to decide for themselves what they need
to do
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Rivulet Date: August 30, 2017, 3:50 pm
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[quote author=Angel_614 link=topic=182.msg2249#msg2249
date=1501898542]
But the point is that the baby didn't do anything wrong. It
doesn't matter how it happened, the baby is like a new start,
afresh beginning, it doesn't have to carry the burden of being
born from some "mistake", because birth symbolizes new
beginnings!
[/quote]
"It doesn't have to carry the burden of being born from some
"mistake" "
*Attempts to calm self with deap breaths*
Okay, so maybe none of you know or have heard, but I'm probably
one of the best person to ask about this topic because I'm the
freaking baby you keep talking about. The two reckless teens who
gave birth to me not much older then I am now. Yes, I was
adopted right away, taken in my my parents who care and love for
me, by my mother who's system wasn't strong enough to have a
baby herself, but that was pure luck. Pure luck that my aunt's
friend's sister's daughter happened to be pregnant and wanted to
put me up for adoption. My aunt thankfully relayed the message
so I am where I am today, but that's not the case for many
others.
Because of my birther's young pregnancy, (I don't believe in
calling birth parents "parents" so I'll use birther. You didn't
raise me, your not my mom)
I carry mental issues to this day. I'm not sure if you know
this, but a mother's worry can be transmitted to the baby, and
particularly stressful pregnancys can and do cause anxiety
disorders. I became non verbal for a few months at the age of
ten, and have very intense anxiety attacks. I have to take a
pretty expensive medication to curve my anxiety, which is a toll
to my parents.
When I ever happen to think about my birther, I either get
really angry or very sad. I feel like if I ever had to meet her
in the future, I'd try and kill her or go in to some state of
depression.
I will let you know right now, that I carry the burden of being
mistakes alright, and I will carry it for the rest of my life.
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