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Re: I have to speak out
By: MelonHamster Date: August 5, 2017, 3:10 am
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I feel kind of uncomfortable on this topic.
sometimes the mother could die during birth. Sometimes the
mother doesn't want a child. In other words, it is the mothers
choice, and no one should make the choice besides the mother. It
is THEIR child.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Malplenan Date: August 5, 2017, 3:28 am
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Why talk about abortion?
Only 15% of pregnancies have abortions in the U.S.
Yes, abortion is cruel, abortion is their own choice, abortion
is sometimes the only way, abortion isn't, but...
Abortion is rare.
Name one person you know in your family who aborted.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Luna255 Date: August 5, 2017, 6:48 am
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I haven't really made a decision about being pro-life or
pro-choice yet. I can really see either point of view.
On one hand, it doesn't seem fair that something that will be a
baby got aborted because someone got irresponsibly pregnant.
It's true that there are couples willing to adopt, and the fetus
didn't do anything wrong.
But on the other hand, there are situations where the pregnancy
threatens the life of the mother, or where the baby won't
survive long and it will just be very painful.
But even in normal, healthy situations where the mother wants to
abort, being pregnant could seriously mess up her life. She
might have to drop out of school, be ostracized by her peers,
etc.
So... I don't know.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: twelve Date: August 5, 2017, 7:30 am
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[font=arial][color=#877769]abortion is actually one of the few
controversial topics I have a strong opinion about, so I'll post
about it here, I suppose.
I'm very pro-choice, because honestly having children is
supposed to be a very important decision. if you regret getting
pregnant or don't want a child one way or another, you should be
able to have that choice of abortion, because it definitely
affects everything in your life. your future, your friends and
family, etc. if you weren't ready to have a child, you should
have an abortion if you chose so, period.
as for the unborn child, it's not really 'alive' until it fully
becomes a human being. as in, properly growing all its organs
and things like that. it's just a fetus, but we all call them
children because we think they're 'alive'. which they aren't
until they are born. unless you have an abortion right before
giving birth (which is stupid), the fetus inside the womb is not
yet alive. lungs are developed directly before birth, I believe,
so once the human being is complete, it qualifies as being
alive.
here's a personal story about abortion, so I think you'll all
see why I feel so strongly about it
my mother actually had an abortion before I was born. it was a
long time ago, before she even had a good job and whatnot.. she
and my dad were really poor, since they were still living in
china where they didn't have good living conditions.
anyway, so my father got my mother pregnant, because I guess
they wanted to have a kid. except they wanted said kid to have a
good childhood and not have to scrounge for money, which my
parents had to do. with a child, my mother would have to stay
home and take care of them instead of making money for the
family. so my parents changed their minds and decided to get an
abortion. looking back, I can agree that it was the best thing
to do, since if that hadn't happened, my parents would still be
stuck with poor living conditions. (although it would be nice to
have an older sibling.)
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Angel_614 Date: August 5, 2017, 9:09 am
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I recommend you go here,
HTML http://www.frc.org/arguments
Or, if that doesn't work, search up "Arguments for Pro-life",
Then click on the first title/topic at the top that shows up,
For Scietific, Legal, and Feministic evidence supporting what I
believe. No religion stuff, just all science, law, and feminism
stuff explaining the evidence and pure facts.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: AetherAer Date: August 5, 2017, 9:35 am
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In my opinion when it comes down to it, it should be the
mother's decision and based off of the mother's situation. If
she's at a good time of her life, with people to help her, with
the support she needs, is going to have a healthy baby, and has
good health then she doesn't need an abortion. She's ready to be
a mother, and to take care of her unborn child. However, in many
cases the mother is facing hardships. She might be in highschool
or in college, she might too poor to support a child right now,
she might not have anyone to support her, she might've been
raped, she might be in an abusive relationship, or she might be
going through pregnancy completely alone. If the mother isn't
ready to be a mother yet, if she isn't in a situation where she
can take care of a child and herself, then she needs to be able
to abort the pregnancy. She has to have the option to decide for
herself, to do what's best for her life, her child's life and
her future. She doesn;t have to go through a pregnancy and
become a mother before she is capable and willing to take care
of a child. Abortion can be the best and only good option. It's
heartbreaking but it needs to be done. Having a baby changes
life forever, you have to go through a long pregnancy, and then
become a parent. The mother has the right to abort a pregnancy
if she knows she isn't able to take care of her child, and that
it isn't the right time. Later on most people go on to have
children again when their lives are better. When they can afford
to take care of children, when they have the ability to give a
child a good life.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Angel_614 Date: August 5, 2017, 9:38 am
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Aether Aer, please check out the website that I stated up above,
as it plainly lays out the facts.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: Drakne Date: August 5, 2017, 9:45 am
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Hey, let's all just calm down and back off each other's throats,
'kay? Let's leave everyone to believe what they want to believe
without any judgement; can we do that?
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Re: I have to speak out
By: AroniaVirginiana Date: August 5, 2017, 11:08 am
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I feel like I should speak up here, because abortion can be
needed, or they may not have had a choice to become pregnant in
the first place. Let me explain the second point first.
Rape happens, and people can become pregnant from it. They
didn't want it to happen in the first place, and there is a
chance that it caused them to be pregnant. And, sadly, it
happens even to people who are my age (12-13). Would you rather
a 13-year-old girl had a child that not only was she not ready
for, but at that age, would likely cause her to die, or would
you want her to have an abortion that would save her life?
This leads me to the first point, which I will use a story I
found to convey.
Someone's cousin DIED because she couldn't abort her baby.
"When she was just under 20 weeks alond with her second daughter
they found out she had a condition which causes high blood
pressure and protein in urine. The doctors gave her a 5% chance
of being able to bring the baby to term with both of them
surviving. She and her husband were DEVASTATED. She regretfully
scheduled an appointment to terminate, but people found out. She
went to church for comfort, so that she would have people there
for her when she would need them but she got the opposite. Her
church threatened to ex-communicate her, even though she tried
to explain she didn't WANT to abort, she had to survive. People
told her that a good mother would be willing to risk her life
for her child, and sent her letters saying she was going to hell
and threatening to physically attack her if she went through
with it. Someone even told her four-year-old daughter, who was
really excited about getting a little sister, that "You aren't
going to get a little sister because mommy is going to kill the
baby." They told that to a FOUR-YEAR-OLD! The harassment got so
bad that on the day of her appointment, she didn't go. About a
week later her liver started to fail, then her kidneys. Within a
few days she was dead. They did deliver the baby at 23 and a
half weeks, but she didn't survive more than a few hours. Of
course the church held a big memorial for her and the baby,
going on and on about how strong she was and what a great person
and mother she was. And how it was a tragedy that she was taken
so young but "god works in mysterious ways." [Censored for foul
language]! Emmie was already vulnerable and distraught and she
went to those people looking for comfort and they turned on her
so brutally she was too terrified and ashamed to have a
necessary medical procedure. That's NOT pro-life. That's not
even anti-choice, because she didn't have a choice, she NEEDED
that abortion to save her life. That is pro-birth. Congrats, the
baby was born. She lived for 2 hours and 48 minutes, the entire
time in pain, but she was born. Mission accomplished. But now
the baby's dead, Emmie's dead at only 28 years old, her husband
is a widower, and her now 5 year old daughter gets to live the
rest of her life without a mother."
I copied this from its source, word-for-word. None of this is me
speaking directly to anyone. I just provided the story.
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Re: I have to speak out
By: TaleKanaya12 Date: August 5, 2017, 11:12 am
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If the mother doesnt want the baby for stupid reasons, then that
specific abortion is ridiculous. If the baby will live a
horrible, painful life, abortion would be better. It depends on
the reason for me. If the baby could be adopted and the mother
will live, dont abort cause both lives are nice. If the baby has
a very bad disease and will die in pain, it's nicer if they
never exist. So, I'm going with Aether.
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