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       Date: December 24, 2012, 6:12 am
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       Don’t Disarm the Mentally Ill[/center]
       by Mark R. Crovelli
       The school shooting in Connecticut last week has provoked a slew
       of hysterical calls for gun control in the United States. Big
       surprise, I know. What makes the calls for "regulation" and
       "sensible gun laws" somewhat unique this time around is the
       focus on mental illness. The fact that the Connecticut shooter
       is alleged to have been mentally ill is being used by some as an
       argument for further disarming the mentally ill in general. (It
       is also interesting that so little focus has hitherto been
       placed on the dangerous drugs these shooters are all taking,
       rather than mental illness itself).
       Gun rights groups have understandably steered clear of the
       mental illness issue. On first glance, it just seems like common
       sense that people with mental illness should not be running
       around the streets with guns, and groups like the NRA have
       sidestepped the issue in order to focus on other concerns, like
       making sure an assault weapons ban is not reinstated. This looks
       like a politically savvy move by these groups, but it is also a
       cowardly way to avoid having to stand up for a very vulnerable
       and voiceless group of people. If these gun rights groups had
       any worth at all, or if they had one shred of moral fortitude,
       it would be time for them to stand up for the rights of this
       extremely vulnerable group of people. Since there is virtually
       no chance of this happening, it is important for us as
       individuals to stand up for the gun rights of the mentally ill.
       Tackling the issue of mental illness and guns is not nearly as
       politically dangerous as gun rights groups think. On the
       contrary, there are so many people in the United States that
       could potentially be classified as "mentally ill" by the state
       that it is politically dangerous for these groups to not stand
       up for them. As much as 20% of the adult population in the
       United States could be classified as having a mental illness in
       2011 alone! With that many people at risk of being disarmed, (if
       they haven’t been so already), the gun rights groups are just
       plain crazy not to stand up for them.
       In addition, the entire case for disarming the mentally ill is
       based more upon fear and misconceptions rather than rational
       argument. In the first place, there is the gigantic problem of
       deciding who is to be considered mentally ill. Most people
       probably have in mind disarming delusional schizophrenics
       walking around in bunny slippers, an image the gun control crowd
       has fostered, but mental illness is a much broader concept than
       that.
       For example, if a medical student suffers a panic attack due to
       stress and is institutionalized for a day or two, does that mean
       that she is mentally ill and should be disarmed? If so, for how
       long will she lose her right to bear arms, and who is to decide
       if and when she is to recover her ability to defend herself? Or,
       what about the estimated 11% of Americans who are taking
       antidepressants? Are these people also mentally ill, and will
       they be disarmed as well? What if a person took antidepressants
       years ago, but has since stopped taking them? Is he mentally
       ill, and will he be disarmed? Or, even more dangerous, what if a
       prescription-happy doctor tells you to take antidepressants, but
       you don’t want them and don’t even take them? Would you still be
       classified as having been diagnosed with mental illness and lose
       your right to own guns? These are just a few of the
       fantastically insidious implications of disarming the mentally
       ill even more than they already have been.
       The implications of disarming the mentally ill go far beyond
       merely the civilian population, because our armed services are
       absolutely chock filled with people who could and probably would
       be classified as mentally ill. The astounding rate at which
       soldiers are killing themselves testifies to this fact, as does
       the astounding 110,000 soldiers who are taking powerful
       antidepressant, sedative and antipsychotic medications. Are
       these people to be disarmed as well? If so, where would that
       leave our military? What about when these soldiers return home
       with emotional and other mental problems, are we going to add
       insult to injury and tell them that we are going to disarm them
       as well? Thanks for sacrificing your mental health, soldier,
       your reward is to lose your right to own guns.
       These are just some of the practical implications that would
       flow from completely disarming the mentally ill in this country,
       but there are still other ethical problems that would flow from
       it as well. Many of the more seriously mentally ill persons in
       this country are incapable of holding down remunerative work,
       and many thus live in poorer parts of the cities in this country
       that are far from safe. To disarm these people, many of whom are
       already easy targets of crime, is to make them even more
       vulnerable for exploitation and injury. To disarm these people
       completely would be to broadcast from the rooftops to the
       criminals of this country that it was open season on the
       mentally ill. Want an easy mark that you know is not armed, just
       pick out the nearest mentally ill person!
       Also bear in mind that, because there are so very many people in
       this country who can be classified as mentally ill, and current
       laws for restricting their gun rights are ineffective, there are
       currently millions upon millions of mentally ill people with
       guns in America. This fact alone should alert us to the fact
       that mentally ill people are overwhelmingly capable of owning
       guns responsibly, just like people without mental illness. These
       millions of responsible mentally ill are completely overlooked,
       as if it is impossible for a mentally ill person to refrain from
       shooting people, which is just plain silly.
       The firearm is the great equalizer for weak and vulnerable
       people, like the mentally ill and the elderly (many of whom are
       depressed, and could thus also be classified as mentally ill!).
       To take away a weak or vulnerable person’s right to defend
       himself is self-righteous, cowardly, and wrong. All people have
       the right to defend themselves against aggression. This is just
       as true of the mentally ill as it is of anyone else. Getting
       sick, whether physically or mentally, should not mean that you
       lose your right to defend yourself.
       If this doesn’t convince you, remember that there has been a
       long tradition in the United States of using psychology as a
       weapon against the weak and vulnerable. If the mentally ill are
       disarmed today, you could easily find yourself diagnosed as
       mentally ill tomorrow. When that happens, you will wish that you
       had stood up for the rights of the weakest among us.
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