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Ο Ιησούς πεθ&#
945;ίνει, οι στρ	
45;τιώτες ψοφά
νε!
By: FringeElements Date: December 3, 2012, 2:13 am
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Ο Λώρενς
Βανς (δικός
μας) μας
αναλύει
τους λόγους
για τους
οποίους η
Εκκλησία
δεν πρέπει
να έχει
καμία σχέση
απολύτως με
το κράτος
και
πρωτίστως
να μην
δοξολογεί
τους
καταστροφι_
4;ούς
βάρβαρους
πολέμους
και την
αυθαιρεσία
και την
λεηλασία
και την
καταστροφή
που
σπέρνουν,
δείχνοντας
πως ο Ιησούς
πέθανε για
έναν
σπουδαίο
σκοπό, για να
μας σώσει,
για την
ανθρωπότητ^
5;,
για τον
συμβολισμό,
ενώ οι
στρατιώτες
πεθαίνουν
από κακή
τύχη και
κακές
επιλογές,
όπως η
δημιουργία
μιας
αυτοκρατορ^
3;ας,
ο θάνατος
των
συνανθρώπω_
7;
μας, η
καταστροφή
του πλούτου
και του
κεφαλαίου
κτλ.
Ζήτω η
Ειρήνη!
Ζήτω η
Ατομική
Ιδιοκτησία!
Ζήτω ο
Παλαιοελευ_
2;εριακός
Φασιστορασ_
3;αλιστικός
Αναρχοκαπι`
4;αλισμός!
[hr]
This past Veterans Day was especially troubling to those of us
who don’t go to church to see and hear the military idolatry
that is unfortunately all too prevalent in many churches. The
reason this year was so bad is that Veterans Day actually fell
on a Sunday. It is bad enough to attend church on the Sunday
before Veterans Day (or Independence Day), but it is even worse
when a state holiday falls on a Sunday. Thank God Memorial Day
is always observed on a Monday.
So, this past Veterans Day was the perfect day for
military-loving churches to give their last full measure of
devotion, so to speak, when it comes to the military: veterans
dressed in their military uniforms, veterans asked to stand
while they are applauded, active duty military personnel
recognized, the church building and grounds decorated with
flags, the pledge to the flag recited, patriotic songs sung,
hymns of worship to the state sung, prayers for the troops,
thanks to the troops for "keeping us safe" and "defending our
freedoms," the songs of the different branches of the military
played on the piano before the service or during the offering, a
"Support Our Troops" message on the church sign, a video tribute
to the military played during the Sunday morning church service,
a special message by a military chaplain from the local base,
and the glorification of the military in general.
I have observed on more than one occasion that American
Christians don’t seem to care how many wars their great troops
are involved in, how senseless the wars, or how many lies the
wars are based on. They don’t seem to care how many countries
their beloved troops are in, how many foreign bases they are on,
or how many billions the United States spends to maintain its
empire of troops and bases around the globe. They don’t seem to
care how many foreign civilians are killed by their glorious
troops, how many are maimed and injured, or how many widows and
orphans they create. It doesn’t seem to matter what their great
troops do, where their beloved troops do it, and to whom their
glorious troops do it.
This is no more apparent than in the writings of the
theologically schizophrenic Michael Milton, whom I discovered
and wrote about a year ago.
HTML http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance269.html
Milton is the Chancellor, CEO, and The James M. Baird Jr. Chair
of Pastoral Theology at Reformed Theological Seminary in
Charlotte, North Carolina. Milton is also a Navy veteran, an
Army Reserve chaplain, an instructor at the U.S. Army Chaplain
Center & School in Fort Jackson, S.C., and a member of the
American Legion, the Reserve Officers Association, and the U.S
Army Chaplain Corps Regimental Association. And as I also
pointed out last year, he holds to every armchair warrior,
red-state fascist, reich-wing nationalist, imperial Christian
fallacy known to man.
"Veterans Day is a holy day, at least for me," says Milton in an
article
HTML http://byfaithonline.com/showing-honor-to-whom-honor-is-due
for
byFaith, the online magazine of the Presbyterian Church in
America, "And I think that Christ is glorified, at least in my
heart, when I hear the Navy hymn sung by voices that have been
there, in the air, in the land, and on the sea."
In his article Milton reminiscences about being a young man and
seeing a neighbor named Carl leaving for Vietnam. "I felt proud
to see him go. He had his uniform on, having just returned from
boot camp for a final few days of family time before being flown
to Vietnam, and I was impressed," says Milton, who "loved to see
young men in our country’s uniforms" because it reminded him of
his late father, a naval officer, who died when he was five.
Milton never saw Carl alive again, but he did see the men in
uniform emerge from the "white government car" a month later and
tell Carl’s young wife that he had been killed in Vietnam.
What made my blood boil was not that Carl died unnecessarily
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance142.html,
duped
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance140.html,
in vain
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance239.html,
and for a lie
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance80.html,
just like the
thousands of U.S. soldiers who have done so in Iraq and
Afghanistan, but – as senseless and as tragic as Carl’s death
was – because of what Milton said about soldiers in recounting
his Veterans Day custom:
Each Sunday nearest Veterans Day, I would always take time in
the announcements to read from Romans 13 about "showing honor
unto whom honor was due." I would ask our organist or pianist to
play the service songs of each of the Armed Forces branches and
for veterans to stand as they were played. I would ask them to
stand for those who also served but did not come home. I always
reminded them to play for the Merchant Marines, too. At the
conclusion, as all were standing, I asked that we go to the Lord
to pray for these and give thanks for all who would imitate
Christ Jesus and serve and sacrifice so that we could be free.
Taking these last statements in reverse order –
U.S. troops fighting in foreign wars are doing everything but
defending our freedoms. The more they defend our freedoms – by
bombing, invading, and occupying other countries – the more
enemies of the United States they create and the more our real
freedoms are taken away in the name of "fighting terrorism" and
"national security." Since I never "served," don’t take my word
for it; listen (here
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger64.html
and here
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger187.html)
to
Army veteran and now president of the Future of Freedom
Foundation
HTML http://fff.org/,
Jacob Hornberger, who has been arguing this
very point for years.
Something is always sacrificed for a reason and a purpose. An
accidental death is not a sacrifice. An unnecessary death is not
a sacrifice. A death in vain is not a sacrifice. A senseless
death is not a sacrifice. A death that is not required is not a
sacrifice. The thousands of U.S. soldiers who have died fighting
in Iraq and Afghanistan did not sacrifice themselves for freedom
or anything else. Their lives were wasted. They were wasted
because their deaths were both pointless and preventable.
Do U.S. soldiers perform any service that is honorable,
necessary, and worthy of thanks? Do they defend the United
States by securing its borders, guarding its shores, patrolling
its coasts, or watching its skies? Fighting foreign wars is not
serving. Bombing and destroying Iraq and Afghanistan is not
serving. Killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans is
not serving. Occupying countries is not serving. Playing golf on
a U.S. military golf course while stationed in Japan is not
serving. These are just ways of earning a paycheck for being
part of the president’s personal attack force
HTML http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance207.html.
Of course, the worst thing that Milton did was to say that
soldiers imitate Christ. He went on to say this once more in his
article: "Christ is the captain of our salvation, and we will
serve our nation, our people, in some way, as a pale but earnest
imitation of His life and death on Calvary’s cross." U.S.
soldiers don’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with
the Lord Jesus Christ – the Prince of Peace. Just because Christ
died and soldiers die doesn’t mean that the two deaths are
somehow related. Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. The
American soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t die for
us, unless you mean the U.S. imperial presidency, U.S. hegemony,
the U.S. empire, the U.S. military, the U.S. military-industrial
complex, U.S. foreign policy, and the U.S. national security
state. Do soldiers imitate Christ when they bomb and shoot, when
they invade and occupy, when they plunder and pillage, or when
they maim and kill?
Rather than Veterans Day being, as Milton concludes, "a holy day
when mortal men and women remind us of the service and sacrifice
of Jesus Christ," I think it is rather an unholy day when mortal
men and women are wrongly exalted over the service and sacrifice
of Jesus Christ.
[right]December 3, 2012[/right]
Laurence M. Vance [[email=lmvance@juno.com]send him
mail[/email]] writes from central Florida. He is the author of
Christianity and War and Other Essays Against the Warfare State,
The Revolution that Wasn't, Rethinking the Good War, and The
Quatercentenary of the King James Bible. His latest book is The
War on Drugs Is a War on Freedom. Visit his website
HTML http://www.vancepublications.com/.
source
HTML http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance311.html
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Re: Ο Ιησούς πε_
2;αίνει, οι στρ
;ατιώτες ψοφ&#
940;νε!
By: Αρχιφα
σίστας Dat
e: December 3, 2012, 7:02 am
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[quote author=FringeElements link=topic=498.msg3943#msg3943
date=1354522404]
Ζήτω η
Ειρήνη!
[/quote]
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#Post#: 3964--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ο Ιησούς πε_
2;αίνει, οι στρ
;ατιώτες ψοφ&#
940;νε!
By: mistermax Date: December 3, 2012, 3:05 pm
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[quote author=FringeElements link=topic=498.msg3943#msg3943
date=1354522404]
Ζήτω η
Ειρήνη!
[/quote]
τι ειναι η
ειρηνη;;;
#Post#: 3965--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ο Ιησούς πε_
2;αίνει, οι στρ
;ατιώτες ψοφ&#
940;νε!
By: FringeElements Date: December 4, 2012, 4:09 am
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[quote author=mistermax link=topic=498.msg3964#msg3964
date=1354568742]
τι ειναι η
ειρηνη;;;
[/quote]
Είναι η
απόλυση, ο
θάνατος των
φτωχών, οι
ζητιάνοι
που δεν
πετάνε
μολότοφ και
γίνονται
φυτά από τα
ψυχοφάρμακ^
5;!
Ο πόλεμος
δεν κάνει
τους
άρρωστους
υγιείς, ούτε
τους
τεμπέληδες
εργατικούς,
ούτε τους
ψυχάκηδες
υγιείς.
Συνεπώς
καλύτερα τα
βάρη της
κοινωνίας
να μένουν
στο
περιθώριο
και να το
λένε "βία"
στην
λογοτεχνία
τους, παρά να
προκαλούν
καταστροφέ`
2;
και στην
υπόλοιπη
ανθρωπότητ^
5;.
#Post#: 3990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ο Ιησούς πε_
2;αίνει, οι στρ
;ατιώτες ψοφ&#
940;νε!
By: mistermax Date: December 5, 2012, 9:13 am
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[quote author=FringeElements link=topic=498.msg3965#msg3965
date=1354615767]
Είναι η
απόλυση, ο
θάνατος των
φτωχών, οι
ζητιάνοι
που δεν
πετάνε
μολότοφ και
γίνονται
φυτά από τα
ψυχοφάρμακ^
5;!
[/quote]
μα αυτο
γινεται
τωρα και
λεγεται
"κρατικη
επιδοματικ_
1;
πολιτικη".
Και την
ονομαζεις
σοσσιαλκομ_
6;ουνιστικη
εσυ.
#Post#: 3992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ο Ιησούς πε_
2;αίνει, οι στρ
;ατιώτες ψοφ&#
940;νε!
By: FringeElements Date: December 5, 2012, 9:38 am
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Όχι μόνοι
τους να τα
παίρνουν τα
ψυχοφάρμακ^
5;,
να μην τα
επιδοτεί το
κράτος.
Ελεύθερα
χάπια,
ναρκωτικά,
ότι
γουστάρουν
τα παράσιτα
πρέπει να
παράγονται
μαζικά και
να τους
προσφέροντ^
5;ι
στην
χαμηλότερη
τιμή μέσω
της αγοράς.
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