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ΤΟΥΣ ΠΗΔΗΞΕ &#
932;Η ΜΑΝΑ Ο ΙΩΑ	
25;ΝΙΔΗΣ
By: ΛΧΑ Date:
April 1, 2020, 9:12 am
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Ο ΛΧΑ
ΙΩΑΝΝΗΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ,
ΠΟΛΥ
ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΟΝΑ]
1;
ΚΑΙ ΜΑΓΚΑΣ,
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΠΤΕ\
1;
Ο-Λ-Η ΤΗΝ
ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΟΝΙ\
2;Η
ΑΛΗΘΕΙΑ ΓΙΑ
ΤΗΝ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΜΠΟΥ\
9;ΔΑ
ΚΑΙ
ΑΠΟΔΕΙΚΝΥΕ\
1;
ΠΩΣ ΤΑ ΜΕΤΡΑ
ΤΑ ΠΗΡΕ ΤΟ
ΚΡΑΤΟΣ ΓΙΑ
ΝΑ
ΔΗΜΙΟΥΡΓΗΣ[
7;Ι
ΕΝΑΝ ΑΟΡΑΤΟ
ΕΧΘΡΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ
ΠΕΙΘΑΡΧΗΣΕ\
1;
ΤΟ ΑΜΥΑΛΟ,
ΑΜΟΡΦΩΤΟ,
ΧΑΖΟ ΠΟΠΟΛΟ.
ΟΠΩΣ ΛΕΩ ΚΑΙ
ΕΓΩ
ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ 3
ΕΠΙΧΕΙΡΗΜΑ]
2;Α
ΕΝΑΝΤΙΟΝ
ΤΗΣ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΤΡΟΜ\
7;ΚΡΑΤΙΑΣ:
1) ΤΟ COVID19 TESTING ΔΕΝ
ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙ
ΚΑΘΟΛΟΥ
ΥΠΟΨΗ ΤΗΝ
ΕΠΟΧΙΚΟΤΗΤ[
3;
ΟΛΩΝ ΤΩΝ
ΓΝΩΣΤΩΝ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΪΩΝ Η
ΟΠΟΙΑ ΘΑ
ΡΙΞΕΙ ΤΟ CFR
2) ΤΟ CFR ΔΕΝ
ΑΝΤΑΠΟΚΡΙΝ[
7;ΤΑΙ
ΣΤΑ ΑΛΗΘΙΝΑ
ΔΕΔΟΜΕΝΑ
ΔΙΟΤΙ
ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ TESTS
ΜΟΝΟ ΓΙΑ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΙΟ ΣΕ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΕΣ]
2;ΑΛΜΕΝΑ
ΑΤΟΜΑ. ΤΑ
ΣΥΓΚΕΚΡΙΜΕ\
5;Α
ΑΤΟΜΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΑΣ]
2;ΟΛΗ
ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ
ΥΠΑΝΘΡΩΠΗΣ
ΥΓΕΙΑΣ ΤΟΥ
ΜΕ
ΑΠΟΤΕΛΕΣΜΑ
ΝΑ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ
ΜΑΓΝΗΤΕΣ
ΛΟΙΜΩΞΕΩΝ.
ΑΥΤΑ ΤΑ
ΑΤΟΜΑ
ΠΡΟΣΒΑΛΛΟΝ]
2;ΑΙ
ΑΠΟ ΠΟΛΛΑ
ΠΑΘΟΓΟΝΑ ΤΑ
ΟΠΟΙΑ ΔΕΝ
ΜΠΟΡΟΥΝ ΝΑ
ΒΛΑΨΟΥΝ
ΙΔΙΑΙΤΕΡΑ
ΤΟΝ
ΓΕΝΙΚΟΤΕΡΟ
ΠΛΗΘΥΣΜΟ
ΑΠΟ ΜΟΝΑ
ΤΟΥΣ, ΑΛΛΑ
ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΑΣ]
2;ΟΛΗΣ
ΤΟΥΣ ΟΙ
ΓΕΡΟΙ, ΟΙ
ΧΟΝΤΡΟΙ ΚΑΙ
ΟΙ
ΠΟΥΣΤΗΔΕΣ,
ΠΕΘΑΙΝΟΥΝ,
ΕΧΟΝΤΑΣ,
ΕΠΑΝΑΛΑΜΒΑ\
5;Ω,
ΠΟΛΛΑ
ΠΑΘΟΓΟΝΑ
ΜΕΣΑ ΤΟΥΣ
ΚΑΙ ΟΧΙ ΕΝΑ.
ΤΟΥΣ
ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ
ΜΕΤΑ Ή ΚΑΤΆ
ΤΗ ΝΟΣΗΛΕΙΑ
ΤΕΣΤ ΓΙΑ COVID19,
ΚΑΙ ΟΤΑΝ
ΠΕΘΑΝΟΥΝ
ΑΠΟΔΙΔΕΤΑΙ
Ο ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ
ΣΤΟΝ COVID19. ΓΙΑ
ΑΥΤΟ ΚΑΙ
ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ
ΤΕΤΟΙΑ
ΜΕΓΑΛΗ
ΔΙΑΦΟΡΑ
ΜΕΤΑΞΥ ΤΩΝ
ΧΩΡΩΝ:
ΕΞΑΡΤΑΤΑΙ
ΑΠΟ ΤΟ
ΔΕΙΓΜΑ ΚΑΙ
ΤΟΝ ΤΡΟΠΟ
ΠΟΥ ΜΕΤΡΑΝΕ
ΤΟ CFR.
ΑΠΟΔΕΙΞΗ:
ΟΣΟ
ΜΕΓΑΛΥΤΕΡΟ
ΤΟ ΔΕΙΓΜΑ,
ΤΟΣΟ
ΜΙΚΡΟΤΕΡΟ
ΤΟ CFR. ΕΠΙΣΗΣ,
ΟΙ
ΠΕΡΙΣΣΟΤΕΡ\
7;Ι
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΕΣ]
2;ΑΛΜΕΝΟΙ
ΚΟΛΛΑΝΕ ΤΟΝ
COVID19 ΜΕΣΑ ΣΤΑ
ΥΠΑΝΘΡΩΠΑ
ΚΡΑΤΙΚΑ
ΝΟΣΟΚΟΜΕΙΑ
ΚΑΙ ΥΣΤΕΡΑ
ΨΑΧΝΕΤΑΙ Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΓΙΑ ΤΑ
"ΟΡΦΑΝΑ"
ΚΡΟΥΣΜΑΤΑ...
3) ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ
ΚΑΜΙΑ
ΣΥΝΔΕΣΗ ΤΩΝ
ΜΕΤΡΩΝ ΜΕ ΤΟ
CFR. O ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΣΥΝ
ΑΥΤΩ ΛΕΝΕ ΤΑ
ΙΔΙΑ
ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ
ΤΡΟΜΟΚΡΑΤΙ\
2;Α
ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΑ
ΟΣΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ
ΠΕΦΤΕΙ ΤΟ CFR,
ΤΟ ΟΠΟΙΟ
ΔΕΙΧΝΕΙ
ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗ
ΣΤΟΧΕΥΣΗ.
ΟΤΑΝ
ΒΓΑΙΝΟΥΝ
ΜΕΛΕΤΕΣ ΠΟΥ
ΤΟ ΡΙΧΝΟΥΝ
ΣΤΟ 0.6% ΚΑΙ ΣΤΗ
ΓΕΡΜΑΝΙΑ
ΕΙΝΑΙ 0.3% Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΑΝΑΛΥΕΤΑΙ
ΣΕ
ΑΝΕΚΔΟΤΟΛΟ[
5;ΙΑ
ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ
ΓΕΡΟΥΣ ΠΟΥ
ΠΕΘΑΝΑΝ. ΚΑΙ
ΟΧΙ ΜΟΝΟ
ΑΥΤΟ... ΕΝΩ ΤΟ CFR
ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΩΣ
ΠΕΦΤΕΙ, Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΧΡΗΣΙΜΟΠΟΙ[
7;Ι
ΠΑΛΙΑ CFR
ΚΙΝΕΖΙΚΑ
ΚΑΙ ΒΓΑΖΕΙ
ΕΝΑ ΣΩΡΟ
ΝΟΥΜΕΡΑ ΑΠΟ
ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ ΤΟΥ,
ΛΕΕΙ 40
ΕΚΑΤΟΜΜΥΡΙ[
3;,
ΛΕΕΙ 150 ΤΗΝ
ΗΜΕΡΑ, ΠΟΥ ΤΑ
ΒΡΗΚΕ ΟΛΑ
ΑΥΤΑ; ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ
ΑΡΙΘΜΟΥΣ
ΠΟΥ ΒΓΑΖΕΙ
ΑΠΟ ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ
ΤΟΥ, ΛΕΕΙ
ΕΞΕΤΑΖΟΥΝ
ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ
ΑΥΣΤΗΡΟΠΟΙ[
9;ΣΗ
ΤΩΝ ΜΕΤΡΩΝ!
ΨΕΜΑΤΑ
ΣΥΝΕΙΔΗΤΑ
ΓΙΑ ΝΑ
ΣΤΗΘΕΙ ΝΕΑ
'ΚΡΙΣΗ' ΣΕ
ΒΑΡΟΣ ΤΟΥ
ΦΟΡΟΛΟΓΟΥΜ[
7;ΝΟΥ!
A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold,
we are making decisions without reliable data
By JOHN P.A. IOANNIDIS MARCH 17, 2020
coronavirus testing
The current coronavirus disease, Covid-19, has been called a
once-in-a-century pandemic. But it may also be a
once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.
At a time when everyone needs better information, from disease
modelers and governments to people quarantined or just social
distancing, we lack reliable evidence on how many people have
been infected with SARS-CoV-2 or who continue to become
infected. Better information is needed to guide decisions and
actions of monumental significance and to monitor their impact.
Draconian countermeasures have been adopted in many countries.
If the pandemic dissipates — either on its own or because of
these measures — short-term extreme social distancing and
lockdowns may be bearable. How long, though, should measures
like these be continued if the pandemic churns across the globe
unabated? How can policymakers tell if they are doing more good
than harm?
Vaccines or affordable treatments take many months (or even
years) to develop and test properly. Given such timelines, the
consequences of long-term lockdowns are entirely unknown.
Related: We know enough now to act decisively against Covid-19.
Social distancing is a good place to start
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and
how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable. Given the
limited testing to date, some deaths and probably the vast
majority of infections due to SARS-CoV-2 are being missed. We
don’t know if we are failing to capture infections by a factor
of three or 300. Three months after the outbreak emerged, most
countries, including the U.S., lack the ability to test a large
number of people and no countries have reliable data on the
prevalence of the virus in a representative random sample of the
general population.
This evidence fiasco creates tremendous uncertainty about the
risk of dying from Covid-19. Reported case fatality rates, like
the official 3.4% rate from the World Health Organization, cause
horror — and are meaningless. Patients who have been tested for
SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and
bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing
capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.
The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested
was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine
passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was
a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from
Covid-19 is much higher.
Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age
structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people
infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%. But since this estimate
is based on extremely thin data — there were just seven deaths
among the 700 infected passengers and crew — the real death rate
could stretch from five times lower to five times higher
(0.625%). It is also possible that some of the passengers who
were infected might die later, and that tourists may have
different frequencies of chronic diseases — a risk factor for
worse outcomes with SARS-CoV-2 infection — than the general
population. Adding these extra sources of uncertainty,
reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general
U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%.
That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and
what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of
0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true
rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social
and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like
an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying
to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff
and dies.
Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say,
pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some
so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been
known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8%
when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such
“mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every
year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the
U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter.
These “mild” coronaviruses may be implicated in several
thousands of deaths every year worldwide, though the vast
majority of them are not documented with precise testing.
Instead, they are lost as noise among 60 million deaths from
various causes every year.
Although successful surveillance systems have long existed for
influenza, the disease is confirmed by a laboratory in a tiny
minority of cases. In the U.S., for example, so far this season
1,073,976 specimens have been tested and 222,552 (20.7%) have
tested positive for influenza. In the same period, the estimated
number of influenza-like illnesses is between 36,000,000 and
51,000,000, with an estimated 22,000 to 55,000 flu deaths.
Note the uncertainty about influenza-like illness deaths: a
2.5-fold range, corresponding to tens of thousands of deaths.
Every year, some of these deaths are due to influenza and some
to other viruses, like common-cold coronaviruses.
In an autopsy series that tested for respiratory viruses in
specimens from 57 elderly persons who died during the 2016 to
2017 influenza season, influenza viruses were detected in 18% of
the specimens, while any kind of respiratory virus was found in
47%. In some people who die from viral respiratory pathogens,
more than one virus is found upon autopsy and bacteria are often
superimposed. A positive test for coronavirus does not mean
necessarily that this virus is always primarily responsible for
a patient’s demise.
If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected
by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range
guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the
U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this
would translate to about 10,000 deaths. This sounds like a huge
number, but it is buried within the noise of the estimate of
deaths from “influenza-like illness.” If we had not known about
a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR
tests, the number of total deaths due to “influenza-like
illness” would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might
have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse
than average. The media coverage would have been less than for
an NBA game between the two most indifferent teams.
Some worry that the 68 deaths from Covid-19 in the U.S. as of
March 16 will increase exponentially to 680, 6,800, 68,000,
680,000 … along with similar catastrophic patterns around the
globe. Is that a realistic scenario, or bad science fiction? How
can we tell at what point such a curve might stop?
The most valuable piece of information for answering those
questions would be to know the current prevalence of the
infection in a random sample of a population and to repeat this
exercise at regular time intervals to estimate the incidence of
new infections. Sadly, that’s information we don’t have.
In the absence of data, prepare-for-the-worst reasoning leads to
extreme measures of social distancing and lockdowns.
Unfortunately, we do not know if these measures work. School
closures, for example, may reduce transmission rates. But they
may also backfire if children socialize anyhow, if school
closure leads children to spend more time with susceptible
elderly family members, if children at home disrupt their
parents ability to work, and more. School closures may also
diminish the chances of developing herd immunity in an age group
that is spared serious disease.
This has been the perspective behind the different stance of the
United Kingdom keeping schools open, at least until as I write
this. In the absence of data on the real course of the epidemic,
we don’t know whether this perspective was brilliant or
catastrophic.
Flattening the curve to avoid overwhelming the health system is
conceptually sound — in theory. A visual that has become viral
in media and social media shows how flattening the curve reduces
the volume of the epidemic that is above the threshold of what
the health system can handle at any moment.
Related: The novel coronavirus is a serious threat. We need to
prepare, not overreact
Yet if the health system does become overwhelmed, the majority
of the extra deaths may not be due to coronavirus but to other
common diseases and conditions such as heart attacks, strokes,
trauma, bleeding, and the like that are not adequately treated.
If the level of the epidemic does overwhelm the health system
and extreme measures have only modest effectiveness, then
flattening the curve may make things worse: Instead of being
overwhelmed during a short, acute phase, the health system will
remain overwhelmed for a more protracted period. That’s another
reason we need data about the exact level of the epidemic
activity.
One of the bottom lines is that we don’t know how long social
distancing measures and lockdowns can be maintained without
major consequences to the economy, society, and mental health.
Unpredictable evolutions may ensue, including financial crisis,
unrest, civil strife, war, and a meltdown of the social fabric.
At a minimum, we need unbiased prevalence and incidence data for
the evolving infectious load to guide decision-making.
In the most pessimistic scenario, which I do not espouse, if the
new coronavirus infects 60% of the global population and 1% of
the infected people die, that will translate into more than 40
million deaths globally, matching the 1918 influenza pandemic.
The vast majority of this hecatomb would be people with limited
life expectancies. That’s in contrast to 1918, when many young
people died.
One can only hope that, much like in 1918, life will continue.
Conversely, with lockdowns of months, if not years, life largely
stops, short-term and long-term consequences are entirely
unknown, and billions, not just millions, of lives may be
eventually at stake.
If we decide to jump off the cliff, we need some data to inform
us about the rationale of such an action and the chances of
landing somewhere safe.
John P.A. Ioannidis is professor of medicine and professor of
epidemiology and population health, as well as professor by
courtesy of biomedical data science at Stanford University
School of Medicine, professor by courtesy of statistics at
Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences, and
co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford
(METRICS) at Stanford University.
About the Author
John P.A. Ioannidis
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Re: ΤΟΥΣ ΠΗΔΗΞΕ
; ΤΗ ΜΑΝΑ Ο ΙΩΑ
;ΝΝΙΔΗΣ
By: HERD IMMUNITY Date: April 2, 2020, 2:00 am
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[quote author=ΛΧΑ
link=topic=2934.msg24445#msg24445 date=1585750366]
Ο ΛΧΑ
ΙΩΑΝΝΗΣ
ΙΩΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ,
ΠΟΛΥ
ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΟΝΑ]
1;
ΚΑΙ ΜΑΓΚΑΣ,
ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΠΤΕ\
1;
Ο-Λ-Η ΤΗΝ
ΕΠΙΣΤΗΜΟΝΙ\
2;Η
ΑΛΗΘΕΙΑ ΓΙΑ
ΤΗΝ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΜΠΟΥ\
9;ΔΑ
ΚΑΙ
ΑΠΟΔΕΙΚΝΥΕ\
1;
ΠΩΣ ΤΑ ΜΕΤΡΑ
ΤΑ ΠΗΡΕ ΤΟ
ΚΡΑΤΟΣ ΓΙΑ
ΝΑ
ΔΗΜΙΟΥΡΓΗΣ[
7;Ι
ΕΝΑΝ ΑΟΡΑΤΟ
ΕΧΘΡΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ
ΠΕΙΘΑΡΧΗΣΕ\
1;
ΤΟ ΑΜΥΑΛΟ,
ΑΜΟΡΦΩΤΟ,
ΧΑΖΟ ΠΟΠΟΛΟ.
ΟΠΩΣ ΛΕΩ ΚΑΙ
ΕΓΩ
ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ 3
ΕΠΙΧΕΙΡΗΜΑ]
2;Α
ΕΝΑΝΤΙΟΝ
ΤΗΣ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΤΡΟΜ\
7;ΚΡΑΤΙΑΣ:
1) ΤΟ COVID19 TESTING ΔΕΝ
ΛΑΜΒΑΝΕΙ
ΚΑΘΟΛΟΥ
ΥΠΟΨΗ ΤΗΝ
ΕΠΟΧΙΚΟΤΗΤ[
3;
ΟΛΩΝ ΤΩΝ
ΓΝΩΣΤΩΝ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΪΩΝ Η
ΟΠΟΙΑ ΘΑ
ΡΙΞΕΙ ΤΟ CFR
2) ΤΟ CFR ΔΕΝ
ΑΝΤΑΠΟΚΡΙΝ[
7;ΤΑΙ
ΣΤΑ ΑΛΗΘΙΝΑ
ΔΕΔΟΜΕΝΑ
ΔΙΟΤΙ
ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ TESTS
ΜΟΝΟ ΓΙΑ
ΚΟΡΟΝΟΙΟ ΣΕ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΕΣ]
2;ΑΛΜΕΝΑ
ΑΤΟΜΑ. ΤΑ
ΣΥΓΚΕΚΡΙΜΕ\
5;Α
ΑΤΟΜΑ ΕΧΟΥΝ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΑΣ]
2;ΟΛΗ
ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ
ΥΠΑΝΘΡΩΠΗΣ
ΥΓΕΙΑΣ ΤΟΥ
ΜΕ
ΑΠΟΤΕΛΕΣΜΑ
ΝΑ ΓΙΝΟΝΤΑΙ
ΜΑΓΝΗΤΕΣ
ΛΟΙΜΩΞΕΩΝ.
ΑΥΤΑ ΤΑ
ΑΤΟΜΑ
ΠΡΟΣΒΑΛΛΟΝ]
2;ΑΙ
ΑΠΟ ΠΟΛΛΑ
ΠΑΘΟΓΟΝΑ ΤΑ
ΟΠΟΙΑ ΔΕΝ
ΜΠΟΡΟΥΝ ΝΑ
ΒΛΑΨΟΥΝ
ΙΔΙΑΙΤΕΡΑ
ΤΟΝ
ΓΕΝΙΚΟΤΕΡΟ
ΠΛΗΘΥΣΜΟ
ΑΠΟ ΜΟΝΑ
ΤΟΥΣ, ΑΛΛΑ
ΛΟΓΩ ΤΗΣ
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΑΣ]
2;ΟΛΗΣ
ΤΟΥΣ ΟΙ
ΓΕΡΟΙ, ΟΙ
ΧΟΝΤΡΟΙ ΚΑΙ
ΟΙ
ΠΟΥΣΤΗΔΕΣ,
ΠΕΘΑΙΝΟΥΝ,
ΕΧΟΝΤΑΣ,
ΕΠΑΝΑΛΑΜΒΑ\
5;Ω,
ΠΟΛΛΑ
ΠΑΘΟΓΟΝΑ
ΜΕΣΑ ΤΟΥΣ
ΚΑΙ ΟΧΙ ΕΝΑ.
ΤΟΥΣ
ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ
ΜΕΤΑ Ή ΚΑΤΆ
ΤΗ ΝΟΣΗΛΕΙΑ
ΤΕΣΤ ΓΙΑ COVID19,
ΚΑΙ ΟΤΑΝ
ΠΕΘΑΝΟΥΝ
ΑΠΟΔΙΔΕΤΑΙ
Ο ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ
ΣΤΟΝ COVID19. ΓΙΑ
ΑΥΤΟ ΚΑΙ
ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ
ΤΕΤΟΙΑ
ΜΕΓΑΛΗ
ΔΙΑΦΟΡΑ
ΜΕΤΑΞΥ ΤΩΝ
ΧΩΡΩΝ:
ΕΞΑΡΤΑΤΑΙ
ΑΠΟ ΤΟ
ΔΕΙΓΜΑ ΚΑΙ
ΤΟΝ ΤΡΟΠΟ
ΠΟΥ ΜΕΤΡΑΝΕ
ΤΟ CFR.
ΑΠΟΔΕΙΞΗ:
ΟΣΟ
ΜΕΓΑΛΥΤΕΡΟ
ΤΟ ΔΕΙΓΜΑ,
ΤΟΣΟ
ΜΙΚΡΟΤΕΡΟ
ΤΟ CFR. ΕΠΙΣΗΣ,
ΟΙ
ΠΕΡΙΣΣΟΤΕΡ\
7;Ι
ΑΝΟΣΟΚΑΤΕΣ]
2;ΑΛΜΕΝΟΙ
ΚΟΛΛΑΝΕ ΤΟΝ
COVID19 ΜΕΣΑ ΣΤΑ
ΥΠΑΝΘΡΩΠΑ
ΚΡΑΤΙΚΑ
ΝΟΣΟΚΟΜΕΙΑ
ΚΑΙ ΥΣΤΕΡΑ
ΨΑΧΝΕΤΑΙ Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΓΙΑ ΤΑ
"ΟΡΦΑΝΑ"
ΚΡΟΥΣΜΑΤΑ...
3) ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ
ΚΑΜΙΑ
ΣΥΝΔΕΣΗ ΤΩΝ
ΜΕΤΡΩΝ ΜΕ ΤΟ
CFR. O ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΣΥΝ
ΑΥΤΩ ΛΕΝΕ ΤΑ
ΙΔΙΑ
ΑΚΡΙΒΩΣ
ΤΡΟΜΟΚΡΑΤΙ\
2;Α
ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΑ
ΟΣΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΑ
ΠΕΦΤΕΙ ΤΟ CFR,
ΤΟ ΟΠΟΙΟ
ΔΕΙΧΝΕΙ
ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗ
ΣΤΟΧΕΥΣΗ.
ΟΤΑΝ
ΒΓΑΙΝΟΥΝ
ΜΕΛΕΤΕΣ ΠΟΥ
ΤΟ ΡΙΧΝΟΥΝ
ΣΤΟ 0.6% ΚΑΙ ΣΤΗ
ΓΕΡΜΑΝΙΑ
ΕΙΝΑΙ 0.3% Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΑΝΑΛΥΕΤΑΙ
ΣΕ
ΑΝΕΚΔΟΤΟΛΟ[
5;ΙΑ
ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ
ΓΕΡΟΥΣ ΠΟΥ
ΠΕΘΑΝΑΝ. ΚΑΙ
ΟΧΙ ΜΟΝΟ
ΑΥΤΟ... ΕΝΩ ΤΟ CFR
ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΩΣ
ΠΕΦΤΕΙ, Ο
ΤΣΙΟΔΡΑΣ
ΧΡΗΣΙΜΟΠΟΙ[
7;Ι
ΠΑΛΙΑ CFR
ΚΙΝΕΖΙΚΑ
ΚΑΙ ΒΓΑΖΕΙ
ΕΝΑ ΣΩΡΟ
ΝΟΥΜΕΡΑ ΑΠΟ
ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ ΤΟΥ,
ΛΕΕΙ 40
ΕΚΑΤΟΜΜΥΡΙ[
3;,
ΛΕΕΙ 150 ΤΗΝ
ΗΜΕΡΑ, ΠΟΥ ΤΑ
ΒΡΗΚΕ ΟΛΑ
ΑΥΤΑ; ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ
ΑΡΙΘΜΟΥΣ
ΠΟΥ ΒΓΑΖΕΙ
ΑΠΟ ΤΟΝ ΚΩΛΟ
ΤΟΥ, ΛΕΕΙ
ΕΞΕΤΑΖΟΥΝ
ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ
ΑΥΣΤΗΡΟΠΟΙ[
9;ΣΗ
ΤΩΝ ΜΕΤΡΩΝ!
ΨΕΜΑΤΑ
ΣΥΝΕΙΔΗΤΑ
ΓΙΑ ΝΑ
ΣΤΗΘΕΙ ΝΕΑ
'ΚΡΙΣΗ' ΣΕ
ΒΑΡΟΣ ΤΟΥ
ΦΟΡΟΛΟΓΟΥΜ[
7;ΝΟΥ!
About the Author
John P.A. Ioannidis
[/quote]
8. The government has no money. It has to steal everything it
gets and since it's in the red, it has to print the $2 trillion
out of thin air. The one honest guy in the House of
Representatives, Thomas Massie, called this a huge wealth
transfer from the masses to the rich with $1200 as the cheese in
the trap. He is exactly right. He is of course getting
slaughtered in the press for trying to force other
representatives to at least put their names on the vote. Of
course, the insane bipartisan consensus of stupidity is
slaughtering him for having enough integrity to ask for
ACCOUNTABILITY. They just say he's trying to make us all sick by
coming back to DC to vote! Again, Insane.
9. The Federal Reserve (the small group of economics PhDs who
have the monopoly privilege to counterfeit money and falsely
believe that they can model human action as an equilibrium
equation) just said they would backstop all debt. So here we go
again only this time it's worse. Now the Fed has established
three new lending facilities to buy corporate bonds. So first
they print the money to keep prices from falling in '08 to a
level where private citizens could afford houses. Then they
bought up all the mortgages (so the Fed really owns all the
homes in America). Now they're printing up more money to buy all
the big companies. So soon the Fed will own all the businesses
because who can compete with a printing press. Who needs a
communist revolution when you have central banking? Welcome to
1984 in the central banking states of America.
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ΕΡΧΕΤΑΙ
ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΑ
ΚΟΥΜΟΥΝΟΧΟ]
3;ΝΤΑ.
ΕΛΛΑΣ
ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ
ΚΟΥΜΟΥΝΙΣΤ]
7;Ν.
ΠΟΥΛΗΣΤΕ
ΟΤΙ ΕΧΕΤΕ,
ΓΙΑ ΝΑ ΜΗ ΣΑΣ
ΤΟ ΚΛΕΨΟΥΝ
ΟΙ
ΚΑΤΣΑΠΛΙΑΔ[
7;Σ.
ΤΟΥΛΑΧΙΣΤΟ\
5;
ΑΜΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΝΑ
ΜΑΣ ΔΩΣΟΥΝ
ΤΖΑΠΑ ΠΡΑΜΑ
ΝΑ ΜΗΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ
ΑΠΟ ΤΑ
ΚΛΕΜΜΕΝΑ
ΜΑΣ. ΠΑΡΤΕ
ΟΠΛΑ ΚΑΙ
ΕΤΟΙΜΑΣΤΕΙ]
2;Ε
ΓΙΑ ΓΛΕΝΤΙ.
ΚΟΝΣΕΡΤΟ ΜΕ
ΠΟΛΥΒΟΛΑ
ΚΑΙ
ΣΥΜΦΩΝΙΑ
ΤΩΝ ΣΦΥΡΙΩΝ.
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