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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: mistermax
Date: May 21, 2016, 7:54 am
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Το double slit experiment
είναι
γνωστό, και η
εξήγηση
γνωστή- αυτά
διδάσκονται
στην φυσική
προπανεπιστημιακου
επιπέδου,
στην ελλάδα
ισως το
διδάσκουν
μονο στους
μεταπτυχιακους,
δεν ξερω
. Αν το
αμφισβητεί
καποιος, ας
γραψει στο Nature
την εξήγηση
του. Το
σημαντικό
πάντων
είναι ότι
θεμελιώνεται
πάνω του η
ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΗ
ΒΟΥΛΗΣΗ του
ανθρώπου
και για αυτό
έχει
λυσσάξει ο
μαρξιστης
πινοσετ να
το
καταρρήψει
με αστείους
ισχυρισμους.
Τον
χαρακτηρίζω
μαρξιστη
γιατί
πιστεύει
πως αν δεν
μπορεί να
κατανοησει
την
πραγματικόττηα,
τοσο
χειρότερο
για την
πραγματικότητα.
Η
πραγματικότητα
δεν υπάρχει
εκτος και αν
την
μετρήσεις.
#Post#: 22912--------------------------------------------------
Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: Pinochet88
Date: May 21, 2016, 9:30 am
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Στρασερικοί
"αναρχο"κομμουνιστές
και
κομμουνιστές
ψευτοεπιστήμονες
λένε ψέματα
στον κόσμο
και του
πουλάνε
τρέλα για να
τον έχουν
υπόδουλο
στο Κράτος
και να
παίρνουν
προμήθειες
από τη
φορολογική
του
εκμετάλλευση
παριστάνοντας
τους
επιστήμονες
άχρηστων,
ανυπόστατων,
γελοίων και
αντιεπιστημονικών
θεωριών.
Ορίστε η
απάντηση
στα ψεύδη
που
διδάσκουν
τα κρατικά
μονοπώλια
του σκότους:
The detector is affecting the particle. No small particle can be
measured without being displaced somehow. The guy in the video
knows this too, if he's a physicist. He knows the detector is
collapsing the wave function of the particle. It's physically
impossible for the detector to NOT affect the particle. People
who say that literal human consciousness is affecting the
particle are considered quacks by the legit physicist community.
There are a lot of quacks in quantum mechanics, they get away
with it because the material itself is so dense and esoteric.
These quacks sometimes make a lot of money writing books and
giving lectures. This particular episode of quackery has been
around for a long time, initially due to a misunderstanding of
the scientific usage of the term, "observer." You've been
warned.
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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: mistermax
Date: May 21, 2016, 10:38 am
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Άλλαξες
κασσετα
τώρα,
αγχώνεσαι
να βρεις
ψέμα να
πιαστείς,
αλλα δεν
μπορείς! Τα
φωτόνια της
Αναρχικής
Αληθειας θα
σε κάψουν!
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I thought interference caused by the detection method should be
the logical cause of the wave function collapse too (although I
would expect partial collapse if this were the cause) but, well,
physicists are way ahead of me and already tested this out.
Look into the much more sophisticated Delayed Choice Quantum
Eraser versions of this experiment. It subjects all particles to
an active detection devise but if the “which path” information
is subsequently destroyed (basically accomplished by 'confusing'
the path with other paths made possible through the design's
use of splitters and half silver mirrors which reflect or pass
through at 50/50 chance) then the wave function is NOT
collapsed. Only if the particle takes a path that allows for the
slit it passed through to be inferred will the wave function
collapse. Crazy strange huh—I can't wrap my head around
it—especially when considering the retrocausality implications.
How the F can the electron know weather its path will be
inferred or not and 'choose' to act like a regular particle or a
wave from the very beginning—before the moment it's path can be
known or not known.
Η
ΠΡΑΓΜΑΤΙΚΟΤΗΤΑ
ΔΕΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ,
ΜΟΝΟ Η
ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΗ
ΜΑΣ ΒΟΥΛΗΣΗ
ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ.
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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: observer
Date: May 21, 2016, 11:21 am
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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: Αρχιφ&#94...
Date: May 25, 2016, 6:10 am
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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: mistermax
Date: June 22, 2016, 3:36 pm
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Ενα
ενδιαφέρον
κείμενο,
παραθέτω το
πρώτο του
κομμάτι. ;)
Για οποιον
ενδιαφέρεται.
Quantum Mechanics & Chaos Theory: Anarchist Meditations on N.
Herbert’s Quantum Reality: Beyond the New Physics
Scientific worldviews or “paradigms” can influence — or be
influenced by — social reality. Clearly the Ptolemaic universe
mirrors theocentric & monarchic structures. The
Newtonian/Cartesian/mechanical universe mirrors rationalistic
social assumptions, which in turn underlie nationalism,
capitalism, communism, etc. As for Relativity Theory, it has
only recently begun to reflect — or be reflected by — certain
social realities. But these relations are still obscure,
embedded in multinational conspiracies, the metaphysics of
modern banking, international terrorism, & various newly
emergent telecommunications-based technologies.
Which comes first, scientific paradigm or social structure? For
our purpose it seems unnecessary to answer this question — and
in any case, perhaps impossible. The relation between them is
real, but acts in a manner infinitely more complex than mere
cause-&-effect, or even warp-&-weft.
Quantum Mechanics (QM), considered as the source of such a
paradigm, at first seems to lack any social ramifications or
parallels, almost as if its very weirdness deprives it of all
connnections with “everyday” life or social reality. However, a
few authors (like F. Capra, or Science-Fictioneers like R.
Rucker or R. Anton Wilson) have seen Quantum Theory both as a
vindication of certain “oriental philosophies” & also as
prophetic of certain social changes which might loosely &
carelessly be lumped under the heading “Aquarian.”
The “mystical” systems evoked by our contemplation of Quantum
facts tend to be non-dualist and non-theocentric, dynamic rather
than static: Advaita Vedanta, Taoism, Tantra (both Hindu &
Buddhist), alchemy, etc. Einstein, who opposed Quantum theory,
believed in a God who refused to play dice with the universe, a
basically Judeo-Protestant deity who sets up a cosmic speed
limit for light. The Quantum enthusiasts, by contrast, prefer a
dancing Shiva, a principle of cosmic play.
Perhaps “oriental wisdom” will provide a kind of focusing
device, or set of metaphors, or myth, or poetics of QM, which
will allow it to realize itself fully as a “paradigm” & discover
its reflection on the level of society. But it does not follow
that this paradigm will simply recapitulate the social complexes
which gave rise to Taoism, Tantra or alchemy. There is no
“Eternal Return” in the strict Nietzschean sense: each time the
gyre comes round again it describes a new point in space/time.
Einstein accused Quantum Theory (QT) of restoring individual
consciousness to the center of the universe, a position from
which “Man” was toppled by “Science” 500 years ago. If QT can be
accused of retrogression, however, it must be something like the
anarchist P. Goodman’s “Stone Age Reaction” — a turning-back so
extreme as to constitute a revolution.
Perhaps the development of QM and the rediscovery of “oriental
wisdom” (with its occidental variations) stem from the same
social causes, which have to do with information density,
electronic technology, the ongoing collapse of Eurocentrism &
its “Classical” philosophies, ideologies & physics. Perhaps the
syncresis of QT & oriental wisdom will accelerate these changes,
even help direct them.
Table of Paradigms
With Their Spritual, Political & Economic Parallels
Paleolithic — shamanic — non-authoritarian — hunter/gatherer
Neolithic — polytheistic — authoritarian — agricultural
Earth-centered Cosmos — theistic — monarchial/theocratic
(hierarchical) — urban
Sun-centered Cosmos — monotheistic — divine right of kings —
colonialism & imperialism
Mechanistic universe — deist or atheist — democracy, capitalism,
communism — industrial/technological
Relativistic universe — Modernism — cybernocacy —
post-industrial (electronic)
Quantum universe ...
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Re: Δεν Ισχύει
Η
Κβαντομηχανική!
DIR By: Pinochet88
Date: June 23, 2016, 7:54 am
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Η λογική
λέει ότι ο
σοσιαλισμός
είναι μια
λανθασμένη
θεωρία που
έχει
αποτύχει
και
αποτυγχάνει
παντού και
πάντα
παταγωδώς. Η
λογική λέει
ότι ο
σοσιαλισμός
είναι για
τον πούτσο.
Έτσι οι
σοσιαλιστές
επιχειρούν
να
εκπαραθυρώσουν
τη λογική
από την
κοινωνία
και να
καταστήσουν
τους
ανθρώπους
γρανάζια
του Κράτους,
χωρίς κρίση,
χωρίς σκέψη.
Μόνο έτσι
δύναται
κανείς να
αποδεχθεί
την σκλαβιά
στο Κράτος
και μόνο
έτσι
δύνανται οι
τύραννοι να
επιβάλουν
την εξουσία
τους, μόνο με
την
παράλογη
κβαντομηχανική
σκέψη.
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