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       God and the State, by Bakunin (book)
       By: mistermax Date: January 15, 2016, 3:14 pm
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       Who are right, the idealists or the materialists? The question
       once stated in this way hesitation becomes impossible.
       Undoubtedly the idealists are wrong and the materialists right.
       Yes, facts are before ideas; yes, the ideal, as Proudhon said,
       is but a flower, whose root lies in the material conditions of
       existence. Yes, the whole history of humanity, intellectual and
       moral, political and social, is but a reflection of its economic
       history.
       All branches of modem science, of true and disinterested
       science, concur in proclaiming this grand truth, fundamental and
       decisive: The social world, properly speaking, the human
       world-in short, humanity-is nothing other than the last and
       supreme development-at least on our planet and as far as we
       know-the highest manifestation of animality. But as every
       development necessarily implies a negation, that of its base or
       point of departure, humanity is at the same time and essentially
       the deliberate and gradual negation of the animal element in
       man; and it is precisely this negation, as rational as it is
       natural, and rational only because natural-at once historical
       and logical, as inevitable as the development and realization of
       all the natural laws in the world-that constitutes and creates
       the ideal, the world of intellectual and moral convictions,
       ideas.
       Yes, our first ancestors, our Adams and our Eves, were, if not
       gorillas, very near relatives of gorillas, omnivorous,
       intelligent and ferocious beasts, endowed in a higher degree
       than the animals of another species with two precious
       faculties-the power to think and the desire to rebel.....
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