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       Η κηδεία του &
       #931;τρατηγού Μ&#96
       0;ρουσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 4:54 am
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       Oρθοδοξία,
       Κομμουνισμ&#97
       2;ς
       και
       Στρατοκρατ&#94
       3;α
       Brusilov’s funeral in March 1926 revealed the attempts of the
       Soviet military establishment to co-opt certain aspects of his
       military glory. In the death announcement in Pravda on March 18,
       1926, Kliment Voroshilov wrote the following:
       The workers and peasants of the Soviet Union will not forget A.
       A. Brusilov. In their memory, his image will be surrounded by a
       bright halo, as a commander of the old army who was able to
       understand the significance of the social transformation that
       was occurring, and to elevate comprehension of the enthusiasm
       for the revolutionary defense of the Republic of Workers and
       Peasants.
       Voroshilov argued that Brusilov would “live on” in the memory of
       workers and peasants, and in this way gain immortality in a
       Soviet civic context. The article also noted that the
       Revvoensovet would arrange for a personal pension for the
       Brusilov family and would pay funeral expenses. Brusilov was
       thus embraced as a member of the Soviet establishment who would
       be buried with official Soviet military honors.
       Brusilov’s obituary recalled his connection to the Tsarist past.
       He was described as “one of the most outstanding commanders of
       the Russian army,” and it was noted that, “the name of Brusilov
       is connected to the summer offensive of 1916 that led to the
       breakthrough at Lutsk.”
       The official state funeral of Brusilov accommodated his status
       as a World War I hero and a Tsarist officer as well as his
       position as a Soviet military official. The funeral was to take
       place in an Orthodox cemetery, yet Voroshilov had suggested that
       participating in the “revolutionary defense” of the nation was
       the best way to commemorate Brusilov’s memory.
       On the day of the funeral, a military honor guard, including a
       company of infantry, a
       squadron of cavalry, and a half-battery of artillery, arrived at
       Brusilov’s home to accompany the funeral procession to
       Novodevichii Cemetery. The delegation from Revvoensovet laid a
       wreath on the coffin that was inscribed: “To an honest
       representative of the old generation, who placed his battle
       experience at the service of the USSR and the Red Army. To A.A.
       Brusilov from the Revvoensovet.”
       Yet Revvoensovet’s wreath was not the only decoration on
       Brusilov’s coffin. The casket was also covered with “wreaths of
       white flowers with ribbons of the order of St. George.” An
       article in a Russian émigré newspaper noted with satisfaction:
       “This was very likely the first time after the October
       Revolution that St. George ribbons appeared openly on the
       streets of Moscow."
       Brusilov’s military successes in the Tsarist period were
       publicly acknowledged, and the procession was allowed to display
       both his Tsarist and Soviet honors. He was buried in 1926
       explicitly as a military hero of both the pre-revolutionary and
       revolutionary eras.
       The Soviet troops accompanied Brusilov’s coffin to the gates of
       the Novodevichii
       Cemetery. There, the procession halted and three Soviet military
       officials Aleksandr Egorov, (representing Revvoensovet), Semion
       Budennyi, (representing the People’s Commissariat of Military
       and Naval Affairs) and G. Gai (representing the Frunze Military
       Academy) gave formal speeches about Brusilov’s contribution to
       the Soviet military. Although the Soviet government organized a
       state funeral, Voroshilov did not attend; Brusilov was valued by
       the Soviet state, but was not honored by the top Soviet military
       official.
       G. Gai said, “Sleep peacefully outstanding general. Your
       victorious saber, covered with laurels, is now in trustworthy
       hands.” Gai thus publicly identified the Red Army as the
       legitimate heir to the Tsarist army. Brusilov’s success in World
       War I would be followed by the heroism and victory of the Red
       Army.
       The coffin was then taken inside Novodevichii monastery, but
       Egorov, Budennyi and the Soviet troops remained standing at
       attention outside the gates. Gai, along with Brusilov’s
       relatives and friends accompanied the coffin to the grave. At
       the graveside, relatives and friends gave speeches that were not
       for Soviet public consumption; one speech expressed gratitude to
       Brusilov “in the name of the Slavonic peoples, for his battle
       against the Austro-Hungarian army." Another funeral oration
       celebrated Brusilov’s relationship with rank and file Russian
       soldiers. “The simple Russian soldier remembered his
       father-commander and forgetting himself, through a truly noble
       awakening, brought his labor to his father-commander.”
       Both of these speeches demonstrate the persistence of unofficial
       and non-Soviet
       remembrances of World War I. Soviet ideology explicitly rejected
       the notion that the
       significance of the war was national liberation for Slavs;
       likewise the official narratives of the war almost unanimously
       condemned the Tsarist officer corps for its brutality towards
       the “simple Russian soldier.” The memory of Brusilov as a
       paternalistic and benevolent father-commander who could awaken
       the soldiers to loyalty and noble labor was a subversive reading
       of Brusilov’s life in the Soviet context. While Soviet officials
       took great care to prevent these ideas from being expressed in
       print as part of the official report of Brusilov’s funeral, they
       nonetheless gave Brusilov’s friends and relatives the time and
       space to remember him and the war in this most unofficial way.
       After the speeches, the priest completed short prayers and the
       funeral service ended with the singing of the words “eternal
       memory” three times as Brusilov’s coffin was lowered into the
       grave. Outside the cemetery, Budennyi gave a signal and soldiers
       fired off a three shot salvo after each repetition of “eternal
       memory.” Brusilov’s widow noted that this ritual took place
       “exactly as in old times.” The Soviet army thus actively
       participated in a religious-military tradition from
       pre-revolutionary times in honor of Brusilov.
       The remarkably hybrid nature of this ceremony and the active
       cooperation between
       Soviet officials and the church reveals the complicated
       relationship of the Soviet government toward Brusilov’s military
       achievements as a Tsarist general. Because Brusilov supported
       the Soviet state, his glorious military career could be
       celebrated both as a Soviet career but also on its own terms as
       a reflection of an honorable Tsarist career. Because Brusilov
       passed his “laurel covered saber” to the Soviet state, in fact,
       he had to be recognized as an outstanding Tsarist general who
       had brought honor to the Tsarist military in an otherwise
       disastrous war. Brusilov’s legacy of Tsarist military success
       was so valued by the Soviet military establishment that it
       allowed Brusilov to be buried as a Tsarist general, with the
       ribbons of the order of St. George in full sight, and in an
       Orthodox cemetery in accordance with full Orthodox rites. They
       even participated in the Tsarist military tradition of a gun
       salvo at the moment of interment at the end of the Orthodox
       funeral service. Like the World War I exhibit in the Military
       History Museum, the Brusilov funeral demonstrates the
       persistence of notions of Tsarist military valor in Soviet
       discourse of the 1920s.
       #Post#: 20167--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: mistermax Date: January 7, 2016, 8:09 am
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       Με την
       εξισωση του
       κομμουνισμ&#95
       9;υ
       με ναζισμο
       που
       επιχειρει η
       εε, θα
       οδηγησει
       τους
       νεοναζι, που
       πληθαινουν,
       να
       ερωτευοντα&#95
       3;
       τον Μαρξ, τον
       Λενιν και
       τον Σταλιν!  :D :D
       :D
       #Post#: 20169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 8:14 am
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       [quote author=mistermax link=topic=2223.msg20167#msg20167
       date=1452175784]
       Με την
       εξισωση του
       κομμουνισμ&#95
       9;υ
       με ναζισμο
       που
       επιχειρει η
       εε, θα
       οδηγησει
       τους
       νεοναζι, που
       πληθαινουν,
       να
       ερωτευοντα&#95
       3;
       τον Μαρξ, τον
       Λενιν και
       τον Σταλιν!  :D :D
       :D
       [/quote]
       δεν το βλέπω
       κακό να
       θαυμάζει
       κάποιος Ε/Σ
       τα Αντρικά
       Ιδανικά που
       εκπροσωπού&#96
       3;ε
       η Σοβιετική
       Ένωση.
       #Post#: 20175--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Αρχιφα
       σίστας Dat
       e: January 7, 2016, 8:28 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=mistermax link=topic=2223.msg20167#msg20167
       date=1452175784]
       Με την
       εξισωση του
       κομμουνισμ&#95
       9;υ
       με ναζισμο
       που
       επιχειρει η
       εε, θα
       οδηγησει
       τους
       νεοναζι, που
       πληθαινουν,
       να
       ερωτευοντα&#95
       3;
       τον Μαρξ, τον
       Λενιν και
       τον Σταλιν!  :D :D
       :D
       [/quote]
       Στην Ελλάδα
       πάντως
       μόνιμα οι
       κομουνιστέ&#96
       2;
       θα
       θεωρούνται
       ήρωες και
       αγωνιστές
       δυστυχώς...
       #Post#: 20176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 8:35 am
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       [quote author=Pepe the Frog link=topic=2223.msg20175#msg20175
       date=1452176895]
       Στην Ελλάδα
       πάντως
       μόνιμα οι
       κομουνιστέ&#96
       2;
       θα
       θεωρούνται
       ήρωες και
       αγωνιστές
       δυστυχώς...
       [/quote]
       Mε τους
       κομμουνιστ&#94
       1;ς
       συμβαίνει
       το περίεργο.
       Όταν
       αντιπολιτε&#97
       3;ονται
       είναι
       κλαμμένα
       μουνιά, όταν
       κυβερνάνε
       γίνονται
       υπεργαμάτο&#95
       3;
       άντρακλες.
       Οπότε οι
       μόνοι
       κομμουνιστ&#94
       1;ς
       που μπορεί
       και που
       πρέπει να
       εκτιμάει
       ένας Ε/Σ,
       είναι αυτοί
       που
       κυβέρνησαν.
       Εδώ στην
       Ελλάδα δεν
       κυβέρνησαν
       άρα
       γαμιούνται.
       #Post#: 20177--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 8:47 am
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       Oι Κόκκινοι
       Κοζάκοι
       στρατηγοί
       του Ρώσικου
       εμφυλίου
       πάντως
       είχαν όλοι
       και γαμώ τα
       μουστάκια
       Semyon Budyonny
  HTML http://victory.sokolniki.com/EditorFiles/image/Material/f4e3e9a81f003c1bfe16605e29e7f24e.jpg
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/SM-Budyonny-01.jpg/150px-SM-Budyonny-01.jpg
       Sergey Kamenev
  HTML http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy111/mrmental/Kamenev_02.jpg
       Oka Gorodovikov
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Oka_Gorodovikov.jpg
  HTML http://historum.com/members/lionmaster-albums-radom2-picture4244-1073-1072-1089-1072-1085-1075-1086-1088-1086-1076-1086-1074-1080-1082-1086-1074.jpg
       Kι ένα
       ευχαριστώ
       στον
       κόκκινο
       αταμάνο
       Νικιφόρ
       Γκριγκόριε&#96
       6;
       που έσωσε το
       1919 την
       Ουκρανία
       από τον
       αγγλο-γαλλο-&#
       946;ενιζελικό
       επεκτατισμ&#97
       2;
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       #Post#: 20178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Αρχιφα
       σίστας Dat
       e: January 7, 2016, 9:10 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Long Knives 88 link=topic=2223.msg20177#msg20177
       date=1452178072]
       Kι ένα
       ευχαριστώ
       στον
       κόκκινο
       αταμάνο
       Νικιφόρ
       Γκριγκόριε&#96
       6;
       που έσωσε το
       1919 την
       Ουκρανία
       από τον
       αγγλο-γαλλο-&#
       946;ενιζελικό
       επεκτατισμ&#97
       2;
       [/quote]
       Είσαι
       σίγουρος
       ότι δεν
       είσαι
       κομουνιστή&#96
       2;
       έτσι;  ???
       #Post#: 20179--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 9:35 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Pepe the Frog link=topic=2223.msg20178#msg20178
       date=1452179421]
       Είσαι
       σίγουρος
       ότι δεν
       είσαι
       κομουνιστή&#96
       2;
       έτσι;  ???
       [/quote]
       Πουτινικός
       είμαι. Και αν
       δεν υπήρχε
       το 1919 ο
       αταμάνος
       Γκριγκόριε&#96
       6;,
       δε θα
       υπήρχαν πια
       Ρώσοι στην
       Κριμαία, και
       δε θα
       μπορούσε
       σήμερα η
       Ρωσία να
       υπερασπιστ&#94
       9;ί
       τα ιστορικά
       εδάφη της.
       Ο
       Βλαδίμηρος
       παρεμπιπτό&#95
       7;τως
       ανήγειρε
       ξανά στη
       Μόσχα το
       άγαλμα του
       ιδρυτή της KGB
       Φέλιξ
       Τζερζίνσκι.
       Κάτι θα
       ξέρει αυτός
       για να το
       κάνει.
       #Post#: 20180--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Αρχιφα
       σίστας Dat
       e: January 7, 2016, 9:38 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Long Knives 88 link=topic=2223.msg20179#msg20179
       date=1452180929]
       Πουτινικός
       είμαι. Και αν
       δεν υπήρχε
       το 1919 ο
       αταμάνος
       Γκριγκόριε&#96
       6;,
       δε θα
       υπήρχαν πια
       Ρώσοι στην
       Κριμαία, και
       δε θα
       μπορούσε
       σήμερα η
       Ρωσία να
       υπερασπιστ&#94
       9;ί
       τα ιστορικά
       εδάφη της.
       Ο
       Βλαδίμηρος
       παρεμπιπτό&#95
       7;τως
       ανήγειρε
       ξανά στη
       Μόσχα το
       άγαλμα του
       ιδρυτή της KGB
       Φέλιξ
       Τζερζίνσκι.
       Κάτι θα
       ξέρει αυτός
       για να το
       κάνει.
       [/quote]
       ??? ??? ???
       Παράγοντας
       του
       Εδεσαικού
       φάση...
       #Post#: 20181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Η κηδεία το&#96
       5; Στρατηγού Μ
       προυσίλοφ
       By: Long Knives 88 Date: January 7, 2016, 9:55 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Pepe the Frog link=topic=2223.msg20180#msg20180
       date=1452181132]
       ??? ??? ???
       Παράγοντας
       του
       Εδεσαικού
       φάση...
       [/quote]
       Παράγοντας
       του
       Εδεσσαϊκού
       είναι η φάση
       για όποιον
       δεν έχει
       μελετήσει
       σωστά την
       ιστορία των
       χρόνων 1917-23, και
       νομίζει ότι
       οι
       Μπολσεβίκο&#95
       3;
       εξάπλωναν
       δήθεν τον
       κομμουνισμ&#97
       2;.
       Στην
       πραγματικό&#96
       4;ητα
       εξάπλωναν
       τον
       μεγαλορωσι&#95
       4;ό
       εθνικισμό.
       Αν οι
       μπολσεβίκο&#95
       3;
       τότε δεν
       έπαιρναν
       πίσω όλη την
       αρχαία
       ρώσικη γη,
       σήμερα η
       Ρωσία θα
       ήταν ένα
       μικρό
       κράτος
       γύρω-γύρω
       από τη Μόσχα.
       Δεν είναι
       χαζός ο
       Βλαδίμηρος
       που λέει
       συνέχεια
       ότι το 1917-23
       είναι ο
       λόγος που
       υπάρχει
       σύγχρονο
       μεγάλο
       ρώσικο
       κράτος στην
       Ανατολική
       Ευρώπη
       σήμερα.
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