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       Re: &#917;&#923;&#917;&#933;&#920;&#917;&#929;&#921;&#913;&#922;
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       By: Libertarian Date: January 22, 2014, 6:51 am
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       [quote]I am an anticommunist libertarian, but currently a member
       of Golden Dawn in Greece, so I can say I know and have done more
       for this ideology than most of you and I�d like to express my
       sorrow for this site which although is dedicated to the cause of
       empowering the White Race (so to speak) is not at all dedicated
       to learning anything during the process.
       This narrative is bosh if there isn�t a firm ideology to back it
       up. So talking about a narrative is talking about nothing. And
       even referring the word narrative sounds foolish.
       The first thing we do when talking to others (even though some
       of us just want to fight them and kill them for there is
       something Jewish in them) is to know their political positions.
       The first thing there is to learn in this case, just by googling
       and having some knowledge, is that this blackadiclizzard boy is
       a mutualist and a racialist. His youtube channel by the same
       name and his gibberish here proves it. This means he (says he)
       is as pro-white as you (racially aware people have no big
       differences on the aspect of race) but his economic approach is
       different, and I shall say, weird.
       You, Andrew, seem 1) not to care to find and learn who are you
       talking to 2) not to know what mutualism even means. This is a
       recipe for failure. And so your economic arguments are not good.
       The nazi regime was not a socialist regime, it was basically
       keynesian. In theory there was an ideological fraction that was
       full socialist but politically it took the form of strasserism.
       (Do you know that ideology? I suggest to you not to go into this
       path). Hitler was not a strasserite, in fact he killed there
       faggots.
       Now, if you want to defend that fiat money is good, you have to
       have some (keynesian) arguments about it. This position though,
       i think, is blatantly wrong. GD current position is that money
       has to have some guarantee, not meaning metals, but a
       revitalized national production. So Golden Dawn is against
       dropping the euro and issuing a fiat money right now. In other
       words production first. The Austrian School and the Chicago
       school (i don�t like the second) have plenty of argument of what
       would the unintended consequences be if you artificially boost
       demand. This problem cannot be solved by anathematizing them all
       as Jews. You said that fiat money is good. What is this
       economically? It is keynesianism. Who is the best proponent of
       this school now? Krugman, a Jew. Who was Keynes who first though
       it? An antinazi with many Jewish friends. See�
       And there�s another one argument which is overly stupid. You say
       that �the individual caring first for his own needs above all
       others� is an alien idea with no analog in the natural world.
       Wtf?! 99% of the people on the Earth would say that you�re crazy
       or stupid. And putting it that way shows how not well-read you
       are. Indeed nationalism and socialism espouse the idea that one
       should not care first for himself, but no one would dare to say
       that thing you wrote. EVERYWHERE we see, as nationalists, this
       phenomenon, and your �narrative� should urge people to overcome
       this phenomenon which penetrates our lives. But arguing that it
       doesn�t exist. If we�re living in a world where everyone is
       putting the others before himself then why are you striving to
       accomplish what? It seems you don�t know well what nationalism
       and socialism really means.
       (I�m not saying that I agree to this idea �caring first for
       others�, I am saying how this idea is related to socialism and
       nationalism)
       And coming to a third argument that I saw and I think it is
       wrong. About this concentration thing you write. It is true that
       concentrated big wealth is better than wealth in tiny pieces,
       but how is this bad if each and every person concentrates the
       wealth that he and his ancestor created? Jews create wealth and
       concentrate it in a big factory. They have the factory. You and
       your ancestors do the same. Where in the fuck do you see any
       theft, injustice, or something to be fixed? Let�s imagine your
       ancestors were boors and I have a factory and you don�t. Is
       there anything to be fixed? I personally don�t see it this way.
       And asking people to see it this way is asking them to think
       like parasites.
       To my opinion redistribution is theft. And now we come to a
       final point I want to make. You, as many other nationalists
       think that libertarianism and free trade is an ideology which
       comes with niggers pissing at your porch. I don�t see anything
       like that. People can be denied entrance in a country or even
       deported, while goods can come in or go out. What is your
       problem with me trading a good which I made with another good
       that a nigger or a Jew made in their countries? Transportation
       of a good is not immigration of an individual.
       Anyways, this site cannot convert any significant number of
       people to anything and its narrative is not good. The fusion of
       white nationalism and libertarianism is to me a good think and
       can be a consistent ideology. Every time in history that fascism
       rose as a movement this was partly due to a reaction of the
       middle class (traditionally pro-free market class) to some event
       or threat. Without the middle class you�re doomed. And
       rethinking such things as natural and as age-old and as well
       sounding as free trade is something that will help your movement
       influence politics.
       My channel on youtube is marmiteman6 (not 4) , twitter:
       PlaceInTheSun2 , so please don�t make articles on how you
       responded to comments, it�s too amateurish, and if you want to
       talk about narrative don�t do it in public cause people will
       think you�re about to fool them with pretty words. Narrative,
       propaganda, spamming, do them but never admit you did
       them.[/quote]
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       #Post#: 8867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: &#917;&#923;&#917;&#933;&#920;&#917;&#929;&#921;&#913;&#922;
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       By: Fringe_Elements Date: January 22, 2014, 11:33 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=TotalFringe link=topic=1297.msg8866#msg8866
       date=1390411806]
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